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[SmokeyTheBear]

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and

http://www.livejasmin.com

... Promote specific cam categories like



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Many diff banners/creatives to choose from and lots of link codes/methods to choose from , including iframe type boxes.

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[Spunky]

Nice....I like your banners

[devilspost]

nice sig

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Spunky

Nice....I like your banners

Thanks a bunch , i'm no graphic artist but i like to think i'm a tad creative It's nice to know i'm not the only one

Originally Posted by devilspost

nice sig

[rowan]

Trying to understand what your program is... traffic aggregator of some kind? What's the difference between using your prog and promoting the sites directly?

[devilspost]

Originally Posted by rowan

Trying to understand what your program is... traffic aggregator of some kind? What's the difference between using your prog and promoting the sites directly?

Just click his banner and signup. It goes directly to the program that has the sites.

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by rowan

Trying to understand what your program is... traffic aggregator of some kind? What's the difference between using your prog and promoting the sites directly?

whatcha talking about man? adultwebmasterempire.com is the sponsor and Livejasmin.com and Joyourself.com are their sites (I think)

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by rowan

Trying to understand what your program is... traffic aggregator of some kind? What's the difference between using your prog and promoting the sites directly?

nope its the only affiliate program directly for them.. the name is sort of confusing , its just a sponsor.. the name makes it seem like its a broker , but its not.

you can go directly to the sites and signup from the webmaster link on their page and get the same deal.. same program..

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Antonio

whatcha talking about man? adultwebmasterempire.com is the sponsor and Livejasmin.com and Joyourself.com are their sites (I think)

I have to admit , he has a point , i thought the same thing when i first saw the program .. i think its the name that makes me think its something other than a sponsor..

[2HousePlague]

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curre...ner/z11718.htm

[rowan]

Ah, I misunderstood. I thought it was YOUR program.

Some people have tried traffic aggregation in the past, more volume usually equals a higher payout rate so you make more sending to the traffic aggregator than to the program directly. The downside is that you're lumped in with everyone else and the program could close the aggregator's account at any time if there's fraudulent activity. I remember a clickcash aggregator disappeared with the final $30k payout (generated from several webmasters, it was NOT his money) before CC closed his account...

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by rowan

Ah, I misunderstood. I thought it was YOUR program.

Some people have tried traffic aggregation in the past, more volume usually equals a higher payout rate so you make more sending to the traffic aggregator than to the program directly. The downside is that you're lumped in with everyone else and the program could close the aggregator's account at any time if there's fraudulent activity. I remember a clickcash aggregator disappeared with the final $30k payout (generated from several webmasters, it was NOT his money) before CC closed his account...

nope .

Now i have to admit i was a bit skeptical of this programs potential , and theres alot of cam sponsors out there but i tossed up some links in a cam spot that wasnt currently producing jack squat , and to my amazement i had a signup the next day, now let me remind you i'm pretty skeptical , and i'm thinking , ok they rigged a fake signup to inspire me to send more traffic or something. , but nope i get more , and while tracking these new signups in the first week they are rebilling like hotcakes 1 guy rebilled like 5 times the first week ( rebills are them buying cam credits so they are obviously buying lots of credits )

[Krille]

too bad them whales somehow disappear after a week or two with AWMGILETTE

[rowan]

I've had mixed success with webcam progs... one took ages to get going (literally 3-4 years) but it's now generating a nice recurring income. One I have been sending traffic to has generated 300+ free signups, but ZERO revenue. Feeling a bit nervous about that one as the traf I sent could have generated probably about $300 - $400 elsewhere in the short term, and 10X or more in the long term.

But that's the fun thing, because it's pay per min there's almost infinite possibilities for "rebills." Just have to get them chatting in the first place.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Krille

too bad them whales somehow disappear after a week or two with AWMGILETTE

Instead of "guessing" about shaving you should have revshare sponsors tested. I test all revshare sponsors with several methods including checking on rebills, no sponsor should deny an affiliate this right. If i thought there was any discrepancy i would have it checked BEFORE i started promoting them.

If you need any of your current sponsors tested via real credit card signups , feel free to hit me up on icq and i will setup a process so you can verify signups and rebills with realtime tests.

Im not going to bother trying to sway your opinion , but just to let you know i test all my sponsors from top to bottom.. and i think my methods work pretty damn well. and awe looks clean as a whistle so far..

[TheJimmy]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

nope .

Now i have to admit i was a bit skeptical of this programs potential , and theres alot of cam sponsors out there but i tossed up some links in a cam spot that wasnt currently producing jack squat , and to my amazement i had a signup the next day, now let me remind you i'm pretty skeptical , and i'm thinking , ok they rigged a fake signup to inspire me to send more traffic or something. , but nope i get more , and while tracking these new signups in the first week they are rebilling like hotcakes 1 guy rebilled like 5 times the first week ( rebills are them buying cam credits so they are obviously buying lots of credits )

You know, when 99% of the people on this board shill stuff I'm skeptical as fuck. You are one of a very few I'd believe about something like this and don't ask me why...just a gut feeling. I'll give them a whirl.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by TheJimmy

You know, when 99% of the people on this board shill stuff I'm skeptical as fuck. You are one of a very few I'd believe about something like this and don't ask me why...just a gut feeling. I'll give them a whirl.

i know exactly how you feel.. i could posts stats , but then people would just call them chops, I am just as skeptical when it comes to people's "reviews" sometimes, but as you say you can generally tell by who's posting and their posting style if they are just giving lip service or are genuinely sincere.

[mikegaultier]

cool sig. do they have geo targetting ?

What is the minimum payout ?

[darksoul]

They don't work for me. with traffic that converts 1:20 with other
cam sites.
You are aware that they track your revshare with cookies only right ?
So if you got one signup and that user erases his cookies or logins from
other computer you wont get credit for it.
Which is kinda shitty imho.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by darksoul

They don't work for me. with traffic that converts 1:20 with other
cam sites.
You are aware that they track your revshare with cookies only right ?
So if you got one signup and that user erases his cookies or logins from
other computer you wont get credit for it.
Which is kinda shitty imho.

They are working on that as i'm aware as we speak so dont count them out on that just yet that was my first concern, as with many sponsor who track that way.

[SmokeyTheBear]

I think its primarily about how your advertising .. like i said earlier i tried them in a spot with a current "big" sponsors spot that wasnt producing and had great results.. That being said i certainly am not going to drop that other "major" sponsor from all my spots , but it gives me alot more variety , and it seems to have worked so far really well

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by mikegaultier

cool sig. do they have geo targetting ?

What is the minimum payout ?

i think the min is $200 payout , but you get $100 signup bonus so that would be $100 i guess.

I dont think they have geo-targetting yet , but the site isnt really a dating site its more of a live sex show type cams

[JFK]

I do business with AWE, met them at the European shows a while back. They are a professionally run outfit in it for the long term. I would highly recommend them Here are some pics from a visit to their offices in Budapest last October.
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/current/hun05/hun05.htm

[Jarmusch]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

They are working on that as i'm aware as we speak so dont count them out on that just yet that was my first concern, as with many sponsor who track that way.

Strange that a program that's been around for a few years is only now 'working' on it. Here's hoping it's true.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

Strange that a program that's been around for a few years is only now 'working' on it. Here's hoping it's true.

lots of sponsors use cookie tracking, listening and acting on what affiliates want takes some time.. If affiliates dont like tracking methods they get changed or the sponsor will stall .. checkout the awe forum from time to time for new announcements.

[adultchica]

Webcam programs are one of my biggest money makers! Webcams, dating, and phonesex :-)

[Matt 26z]

In this thread...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=557775

BigCashCrew (another cam sponsor) pretty much calls out AWE for tracking recurring sales through cookies.

I don't know if that is true or not. Can anyone clarify this?

[darksoul]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

In this thread...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=557775

BigCashCrew (another cam sponsor) pretty much calls out AWE for tracking recurring sales through cookies.

I don't know if that is true or not. Can anyone clarify this?

O'Rly ? How about reading this thread first

[Krille]

Originally Posted by darksoul

They don't work for me. with traffic that converts 1:20 with other
cam sites.
You are aware that they track your revshare with cookies only right ?
So if you got one signup and that user erases his cookies or logins from
other computer you wont get credit for it.
Which is kinda shitty imho.

so thats why my wales vanish after a week or two...

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by darksoul

O'Rly ? How about reading this thread first

Heh BACKFIRE.. valid question but invalid thread it appears , that seems to be a thread praising A.W.E.'s cam shows

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by darksoul

O'Rly ? How about reading this thread first

Yep. Left the room and came back without hitting refresh.

There's no way in fuck I'd promote anyone who tracks revshare using cookies. That's some shady shit right there. The referring affiliate should be noted in the membership database. Otherwise recurring income hinges on the affiliate cookie staying on the referrals computer for months, which isn't going to happen.

That is, IF this company actually does this. I find it hard to believe.

[u-Bob]

a bump for

AWEmpire

[Krille]

can someone from awe confirm how they track recurring?

[Krille]

bump for awe conformation

[TheJimmy]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

,,, calls out AWE for tracking recurring sales through cookies.

I don't know if that is true or not. Can anyone clarify this?

oh DAMMMM, say it ain't so...


that's a fast way to drop a ton of recurring sales with a cam program

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by mikegaultier

cool sig. do they have geo targetting ?

What is the minimum payout ?

Personally, I don't feel geo targeting and cams work - i'm sure sponsors will say otherwise, but at the very least it's misleading.

When an ad says "chat with ladies from [insert city/state here]" or a cam model's photo says she's from your city/state ... only to find out when you chat with her she's from Romania.

To me, that's misleading your surfers and ultimately i'd prefer they trust me and come back to my site again.

[Ron-AWE]

At the moment we track customer by cookies, so the information is correct. We also pay 30% on all sales, which is higher compared to other cam sites. You can go to our website at www.awempire.com and see how other webmasters earn, let the numbers speak. (We also post the global conversion rates on the website.)

Meanwhile we are working on a lots of things, perfecting our flash cams, adding new features for the customers and the models, and of course a new for-life program too.

"Strange that a program that's been around for a few years is only now 'working' on it. Here's hoping it's true."

AWEmpire.com is relatively new, started out early 2005, so allow us some time to improve it. I also think everyone should give it a try and see how it is doing on their site/traffic.

We do have an outstanding support, hit me (168-656-127) or Vik (261-714-484) up on ICQ if you have any questions!

[Krille]

no wonder the wales vanish after a while when they clear their cookies then... wtf should one work hard to get wales to spend thousands with you when you stop paying for them when they remove the cookie? isn't a recurring program who stops paying for rebills useless except for the owner that is...

[Ron-AWE]

Originally Posted by Krille

no wonder the wales vanish after a while when they clear their cookies then... wtf should one work hard to get wales to spend thousands with you when you stop paying for them when they remove the cookie? isn't a recurring program who stops paying for rebills useless except for the owner that is...

I see your point, in my previous post I wrote that we are working on a for-life option.

[Krille]

Originally Posted by Ron-AWE

I see your point, in my previous post I wrote that we are working on a for-life option.

a bit late for that isn't it? have been wondering why revenue dropped 70% but still getting new signups but all old rebills vanished, tell me again why to promote a recurring camsponsor who doesnt pay for rebills??? fucking scammers

[TheJimmy]

Originally Posted by Krille

... isn't a recurring program[ who stops paying for rebills useless except for the owner that is...

seriously, ouch



hope that gets fixed soon, that is a pretty harsh feature 'woops'

although in the spirit of Will76's discussion in another thread, it really only matters if you make more money with them, not if you are missing a few sales here and there

[Krille]

got the link for that thread? someone posted a wrong link for it earlier

[Ron-AWE]

Originally Posted by Krille

a bit late for that isn't it? have been wondering why revenue dropped 70% but still getting new signups but all old rebills vanished, tell me again why to promote a recurring camsponsor who doesnt pay for rebills??? fucking scammers

The best thing about the internet, that you are free to decide what site you build, how it will look like and who you are going to promote, etc. I respect your opinion, but please show some respect for me and the others not swearing and accusing us.

[Krille]

Originally Posted by Ron-AWE

The best thing about the internet, that you are free to decide what site you build, how it will look like and who you are going to promote, etc. I respect your opinion, but please show some respect for me and the others not swearing and accusing us.

every stop to notice the name of this board? you just said you don't pay for rebills when people remove their cookies, with a recurring program you want to be paid for rebills, if you don't want to pay for rebills why not open a pay per signup program? fucking sucks to loose 70% of income when they clean their cookies dont you think?

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by Ron-AWE

I see your point, in my previous post I wrote that we are working on a for-life option.

There isn't really much to work on. Anyone who knows something about databases and programming will know you are full of shit.

All you need to do is add a referring affiliate field to the member info table. Then check that instead of a cookie.

We're talking just minutes of work here.

[Krille]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

There isn't really much to work on. Anyone who knows something about databases and programming will know you are full of shit.

All you need to do is add a referring affiliate field to the member info table. Then check that instead of a cookie.

We're talking just minutes of work here.

they are just stalling it for as long as possible so they can scam their webmasters for as much money as possible... too bad i have traffic specifically looking for their sites, not sure how well it would work with other camsites but I guess I'll just have to try.

[Krille]

Originally Posted by Ron-AWE

The best thing about the internet, that you are free to decide what site you build, how it will look like and who you are going to promote, etc. I respect your opinion, but please show some respect for me and the others not swearing and accusing us.

can i give you a list of my whales and maybe you can give me a list of how much money you have scammed me for?

[Krille]

Originally Posted by JFK

I do business with AWE, met them at the European shows a while back. They are a professionally run outfit in it for the long term. I would highly recommend them Here are some pics from a visit to their offices in Budapest last October.
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/current/hun05/hun05.htm

where is that sonofsam pic about webmasters saying someone is so great cause they met them once?

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Krille

where is that sonofsam pic about webmasters saying someone is so great cause they met them once?

actually I have met them more than once and stand by my statement. Why dont you allow them to fix what the problem is and take it from there
I am sure that you are perfect in every way

[Krille]

Originally Posted by JFK

actually I have met them more than once and stand by my statement. Why dont you allow them to fix what the problem is and take it from there

The 3 minute fix to the problem they don't want to fix cause they are making bank with it? I've lost thousands from their "recurring" program, a bunch of scammers thats what they are.

AWEmpire - if you want to promote the recurring program who pays you less and less every month when you send more and more traffic