Cam Sponsors - Affiliates Air The Dirty Laundry In This Thread

[V_RocKs]

I am looking for a reliable cam sponsor... I have tested cams.com, awe, camcrush and many others. What I have found is that EpicCams and Adult Players Club cams seem to convert better than the devoted-to-cams-only sponsors do, like Streamray or AWE.

Anyone else seeing this? Anyone else want to chime in?

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

What I have found is that EpicCams and Adult Players Club cams seem to convert better than the devoted-to-cams-only sponsors do, like Streamray or AWE.

Anyone else seeing this? Anyone else want to chime in?

I don't see that at all. I'd say overall there's no pattern of conversions vs. cam-only or not. Easily, my highest 3 or 4 cam sponsors are cam-only.

Much more depends on the site and program itself. If there was any single factor I'd *cautiously* point to, it's the cost-per-minute of the cam shows: The higher the rate, the lower the conversion ... but the higher the rate, typically, the better your cut in the long run.

[John Marco]

Kevsh, how do surfers know what the cost per minute is until they actually join the site?

Do you mean on the sites that pay you 'per 1st purchase' such as ImLive?

[okdesign]

check Pussy Cash - I am doing always great with them

[V_RocKs]

anymore?

[SmokeyTheBear]

i liked the nastydollars setup , but now that they switched to pps , its not so good. ( camcrush)

The awe setup is nice looking and functionally sound, its the middle ground between a high end pps , and a revshare site.

As always theres a time and a place for advertising. put the wrong thing in the wrong spot can drastically affect ratios/$$

Putting cam ads in your pictures area is a perfect example.. if they are looking at pictures , they likely dont want video type products as much as in a "video" section..

[sfera]

good sponsor in the sig, thanks

[will76]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I am looking for a reliable cam sponsor... I have tested cams.com, awe, camcrush and many others. What I have found is that EpicCams and Adult Players Club cams seem to convert better than the devoted-to-cams-only sponsors do, like Streamray or AWE.

Anyone else seeing this? Anyone else want to chime in?

If you are working with a large "cam only" company then you can advertise it several different ways. Most live cam sites are just that, live camsites so their isn't much you can do with it.

Clickcash is one that gives you a lot of options when it comes to advertising because of the several features their site offers. Examples:
1. You can advertise ifriends as a solo girl site. You pick out the solo girls you like for specific niche and you build a little mini site around her and link to her Fan club page. On your custom signup page you also make mention (as a bonus) that the person not only gets access to her Fan Club, but they will also get to see millions of nude pictures and videos from thousands of other girls.... (FYI, Fan club = same as a solo girl site that does a couple free shows a week, blogs, messageboard, pics, vids, etc....

2. YOu can advertise ifriends as a HUGE AVS site. Just by signing up (and never spending a penny on live cam) the person will have access to millions of nude pictures, thousands of hours of nude videos, HDTV content, and Free Chat with all of the models live. This works best when you market the reason they need to signup for the purposes of making sure they are old enough to see all that free shit. Once they are in they can either spend money or not... ifriends does a good job upselling, so all of these advertising methods work good for them too.

3. You can advertise it as a cam dating site. Meet girls in your area, have a "date" with them on cam. Ifriends allows viewers to do the 2-way cam and not all of the girls hide where they are from. Not that they would ever want to meet any of these guys, but you never know. It is an effective marketing method.

4. Market it as hi-tech porn. The HDTV features and multiple cams, and cams that move, etc... all of this caters to a niche.

5. Can always market the fact that it is the largest adult webcam community on the internet, your more traditional cam approach.


I don't believe their is "cam traffic" but then again i might think different if i used a program like webcams.com or epiccams.com. I can take any type of traffic and convert it into clickcash sales.

[Rolo]

Looking at some of our high quality typin cam traffic, and I have been in disbelief with how poor most of the cam sponsors mention here are at making money for their affiliates... actual its so bad, that most of them will soon have seen the last bit of traffic from us.

Sorry I can not bring any positive feedback to the thread - just needed to vent ;-))

[will76]

Originally Posted by Rolo

Looking at some of our high quality typin cam traffic, and I have been in disbelief with how poor most of the cam sponsors mention here are at making money for their affiliates... actual its so bad, that most of them will soon have seen the last bit of traffic from us.

Sorry I can not bring any positive feedback to the thread - just needed to vent ;-))

What urls do you own, I wouldn't mind taking a look at them and giving you guys some suggestions for clickcash (if you are using them, if not I would suggest trying it out). I've worked with some of the bigger type in domain sites out there (that had nothing to do with cams) and helped them convert their clickcash sales very well.

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by John Marco

Kevsh, how do surfers know what the cost per minute is until they actually join the site?

Do you mean on the sites that pay you 'per 1st purchase' such as ImLive?

For some of the revshare sponsors, "joining" has no effect on the payout - so I only see income/stats from those that actually make a purchase (buying time or credit, for example). PrivateFeeds, LiveJasmin and Flirt4Free are examples.

In Imlive's case, yes, the conversion rate seems quite good as they do pay once the customer deposits money. This versus a pure revshare where they do not count "joins", only how much the surfer spends and I get a cut of that.

F4F's per-minute rate is high compared to some performers on Imlive and other sites as their models are, I believe, all studio-based. Imlive has both, so some home-based models set cheaper per-minute rates. So a surfer entering Imlive may see a "bargain" when compared to a performer on F4F - hence, higher conversions for Imlive but potentially greater payout for the aff. on F4F if the surfer sticks around for awhile (and the aff. earns up to 30% of his lifetime spend vs. a one-time pps for imlive).

Hope that all makes sense!

[Rolo]

will76, thanks for your offer However we have already set things in motion to correct the situation.

[Juilan]

Depends on your traffic I would think... my best free view cam sponsor is LegendaryLars/Cams.com

My best sponsor without a free view is Pussycash

Another you could check out: Camcontacts
Best of luck & fortune

[will76]

Originally Posted by Rolo

will76, thanks for your offer However we have already set things in motion to correct the situation.

hey you never know... but good luck anyway.

[traffic addict]

Originally Posted by okdesign

check Pussy Cash - I am doing always great with them

And with a $100 per signup, we are also the highest paying program as well

[D-Money]

I've got to be honest.

ANYwebcam is the hottest "Cammunity" site out there.

Way differrent then the others, so if you promote it right, it should convert better then most.

The way to promote it is, it's real people, no upsells to one on ones. And you can meet these people in real life, like a dating site. Works great with Voyuer traffic too.

You can earn up to $50 per join if they buy the works.

[D-Money]

Originally Posted by traffic addict

And with a $100 per signup, we are also the highest paying program as well

And if you're looking for professional cam models, ImLive is the most generous program on the web!

Much love Traffic Addict.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by D-Money

I've got to be honest.

ANYwebcam is the hottest "Cammunity" site out there.

Way differrent then the others, so if you promote it right, it should convert better then most.

The way to promote it is, it's real people, no upsells to one on ones. And you can meet these people in real life, like a dating site. Works great with Voyuer traffic too.

You can earn up to $50 per join if they buy the works.

when you post about anything other than the players ball, you are just a paid sig whore.

anywebcam.com makes my eyes hurt everytime i open that page just to see if it makes any more sense than the last time i open it.

you have never owned a site. never managed traffic. never worried about conversions, never tested all sites in a given niche and basically have no experience in adult besides being a sig whore and pulling your brothers foot out of his mouth every month or so.

[p1mpdogg]

did someon say epic cams?

oh yea they did..

bing bling

[D-Money]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

when you post about anything other than the players ball, you are just a paid sig whore.

anywebcam.com makes my eyes hurt everytime i open that page just to see if it makes any more sense than the last time i open it.

you have never owned a site. never managed traffic. never worried about conversions, never tested all sites in a given niche and basically have no experience in adult besides being a sig whore and pulling your brothers foot out of his mouth every month or so.

You don't know me very well.

And you are?

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by D-Money

You don't know me very well.

And you are?

which adult sites have you ran? marketingfirm.com doesn't count.

being at shows and parties and organizing the players ball does not equate to knowledge of the industry, or how to run a website/affiliate program in 2006, how to run a cam site or to dispense advice about what works and what doesn't.

and face it.. you are nothing more than a high paid sig whore who sometimes organizes parties.

[SZNY]

Hi V_Rocks,

You already tried DollarPimp.com?
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This month we have changed our payouts structure for our webmasters into flat rate payouts (up to 100 USD pss). For more information just give us a visit.

[adamneve]

Originally Posted by traffic addict

And with a $100 per signup, we are also the highest paying program as well

$100 per signup everyday until the end of the month

[D-Money]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

which adult sites have you ran? marketingfirm.com doesn't count.

being at shows and parties and organizing the players ball does not equate to knowledge of the industry, or how to run a website/affiliate program in 2006, how to run a cam site or to dispense advice about what works and what doesn't.

and face it.. you are nothing more than a high paid sig whore who sometimes organizes parties.

First off, I don't need to list all of the sites I've converted traffic for or owned myself. Who would I be trying to impress? I post about what I want people to know about. For the most part, I keep lot's of my projects low key. I get paid to convert traffic for a living. Dating back to the Busty-Amateurs days, which I'd say I did a pretty good job with and helped pave the way for most amateur based sites out there. Including Websidestory when I created the multiple counters per category, which tripled traffic overnight. I've had tons of sites and projects I've been a part of since then including ANYwebcam as my main focus today. You think you know me? You know what I want you to know, Players Ball, Marketingfirm and ANYwebcam. When you can afford my services maybe I'll take you as a client and help you grow and convert your traffic, til then, STFU newbie.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by D-Money

You think you know me? You know what I want you to know, Players Ball, Marketingfirm and ANYwebcam. When you can afford my services maybe I'll take you as a client and help you grow and convert your traffic, til then, STFU newbie.

you are the master of spin. i will never take that away from you. the fact is that you have not been in the loop for many years if it could ever be said that you were at all. what does websidestory have to do with a cam site in 2006?

so.. to summarize... you dont have any sites. you never had any sites. you know nothing about traffic because you have never had any... much less something like cam traffic which is more or less a sub niche and you keep touting a site because you are paid too. or.. are you going to tell us all that you are sending your 1,000,000 unique cam hits a day to that site as well and that you have it all figured out? care to share any tips and tricks?

why did the guy before anywebcam decide you weren't worth it if you are so valuable?

[D-Money]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

you are the master of spin. i will never take that away from you. the fact is that you have not been in the loop for many years if it could ever be said that you were at all. what does websidestory have to do with a cam site in 2006?

so.. to summarize... you dont have any sites. you never had any sites. you know nothing about traffic because you have never had any... much less something like cam traffic which is more or less a sub niche and you keep touting a site because you are paid too. or.. are you going to tell us all that you are sending your 1,000,000 unique cam hits a day to that site as well and that you have it all figured out? care to share any tips and tricks?

why did the guy before anywebcam decide you weren't worth it if you are so valuable?

ANYwebcam has over 500,000 uniques a day and over 2.6 million members.

I'm their marketing company.

Does that add up to being traffic to you?

Out of the loop, get a life.

[TheGoldenChild]

Squealer you are way off base-

And I'll tell you what.
If you don't have a user and pass to AWC email me at kevin at ANYwebcam.com

I'll be sure to get you one so you can see why our site converts as well as it does, and why we have 2.6 million active members and have another 3,000 joining a day.

It makes sense for a lot of our affiliates, and I am sure it would for you as well if you were educated enough on how to sell our product effectively.

This is not a slight, but rather an opportunity for you to see why ANYwebcam.com is worth sending traffic to

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by D-Money

ANYwebcam has over 500,000 uniques a day and over 2.6 million members.

I'm their marketing company.

Does that add up to being traffic to you?

Out of the loop, get a life.

Yeah right "2.6 million members" - If its free to join, they aren't paying "members". so thats missleading. I can buy 500K a day of shit traffic and get 2.5 million non-paying, under age, no credit card having leeches in a few weeks with FREE registrations that don't require a credit card. So what?

You're right. You have a gift. I apologize.

[V_RocKs]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

you are the master of spin. i will never take that away from you. the fact is that you have not been in the loop for many years if it could ever be said that you were at all. what does websidestory have to do with a cam site in 2006?

so.. to summarize... you dont have any sites. you never had any sites. you know nothing about traffic because you have never had any... much less something like cam traffic which is more or less a sub niche and you keep touting a site because you are paid too. or.. are you going to tell us all that you are sending your 1,000,000 unique cam hits a day to that site as well and that you have it all figured out? care to share any tips and tricks?

why did the guy before anywebcam decide you weren't worth it if you are so valuable?

2 years and 40 posts and you decided now is the time to post? To me that looks more like revenge or a vendetta... I know all about vendettas, after all I am named V...

You say D$ knows nothing about traffic... D$ actually knows quite a bit about traffic. From what I know about him he is 95% consulting money. He knows traffic by having been involved with hosting companies and helping clients to gain more and convert better. If he sucked so bad be wouldn't be making a living consulting.

Now get the fuck out of my thread, you anal douche bag!

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by kBizzle

It makes sense for a lot of our affiliates, and I am sure it would for you as well if you were educated enough on how to sell our product effectively.

I am sure everyone is lining up to "be educated" on how to market "your" site. And those that didn't are missing out. Sorry... time is money and there are too many great sites to choose from. If your site sucks soooo bad that you have to educate people on how to market it.. then I will have to work with Websters Dictionary to come up with a new word that describes the level of stupidity it would take for 2 marketing geniuses to come up with that strategy.

Besides, what are you doing here? Aren't you supposed to be writing your press release for your latest 12,000,000.00 purchase?? You were supposed to make an announcement by now weren't you?

[jayeff]

For several years iFriends has been consistently my best earner. In part that is because I sell from free sites and with that traffic you are much less likely to land the occasional whale you basically depend upon to make recurring income work better than PPS. Maybe too, cam networks which offer more than just porn have a wider appeal. Certainly the big porn-only sites can seem cast from the same mold and, I don't know, make it a bit too obvious they are lying in wait to grab visitors' money.

Someone pointed me at ANYwebcam last summer, saying it would be a good replacement for iFriends. The concept is right and I signed up to check out the webmaster area. They have some good tools and link options. But whoever designed the front end, well...

How someone can take a site which sells a product based on people and interactivity and give it such a sterile design is beyond me. It lacks any kind of impact at all. If you manage to spot the link which is supposed to lead to a member directory, it still says "Launching Soon!".