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BigBen 02-18-2006 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Why is that? and where did you come up with that stat?

It's a common statistics problem. Google "monty hall problem" or "monty hall dilemma".

baddog 02-18-2006 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBen
It's a common statistics problem. Google "monty hall problem" or "monty hall dilemma".

Like my dad used to always say, "you can prove whatever you want with statistics. Doesn't make it true."

TheProfessor 02-18-2006 02:17 AM

For those trying to figure out if they should choose a different
door to get the car, here's a little game you can play to test
your idea: http://expos.com/doors.cgi. Hopefully
you can get on a game show and win!

Snake Doctor 02-18-2006 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Like my dad used to always say, "you can prove whatever you want with statistics. Doesn't make it true."

Statistics are worthless. 39% of people know this.
If 69% of people knew this, then they would be meaningful.

baddog 02-18-2006 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheProfessor
For those trying to figure out if they should choose a different
door to get the car, here's a little game you can play to test
your idea: http://expos.com/doors.cgi. Hopefully
you can get on a game show and win!


With all due respect (one of the times I mean it), can't that be programmed to give those results?

beta-tester 02-18-2006 02:27 AM

Great interview Professor!

TheProfessor 02-18-2006 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
With all due respect (one of the times I mean it), can't that be programmed to give those results?

Sure it could... but I programmed it to be fair :winkwink: Try
the 4 and 5 window test - it's a bit more dramatic there.

baddog 02-18-2006 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TheProfessor
Sure it could... but I programmed it to be fair :winkwink: Try
the 4 and 5 window test - it's a bit more dramatic there.

Okay, then why?

Snake Doctor 02-18-2006 02:39 AM

Ok so I googled the Monty Hall Problem and found lots of different explanations for why switching doors is the right thing to do, however none of them are based on sound mathematical principle.

For instance
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Let's say that you choose your door (out of 3, of course). Then, without showing what's behind any of the doors, Monty says you can stick with your first choice or you can have both of the two other doors. I think most everyone would then take the two doors collectively.
No matter which door you choose after one of the non-winning doors has been revealed, you still have "two doors collectively".

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You'll lose 2/3 of the time if you don't switch. If you do switch, then the prize is still available 2/3 of the time, and you'll make the wrong choice 1/2 the time, so the chance of losing when you switch is only (2/3)*(1/2) = 1/3. You've halved your chance of losing = doubled your chances of winning by switching.
This is also an erroneous statement, because "if you switch" the prize isn't available 2/3 of the time, it's only available half of the time because there are only two choices left.
Regardless of how many choices you started with, when given the option to switch it becomes an entirely new situation, one with only two choices and not three.

I'll keep looking for a better explanation, but at this point none of them have me convinced.

baddog 02-18-2006 02:40 AM

I just got 6 in a row that I would have won if I stayed (3 door). I don't think I have yet to get more than 4 (maybe 5) in a row if I switched.

jonesy 02-18-2006 02:47 AM

somebody PLEASE call a mathematician - or a statitician

baddog 02-18-2006 02:48 AM

Is there somewhere that we can watch old Let's Make A Deal shows?

Snake Doctor 02-18-2006 02:56 AM

Hmmmm this is an interesting explanation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem

It's very counter-intuitive, but if looked at the right way can be understood.
The advantage to switching comes from the fact that the game show host doesn't open a door at random, he ALWAYS opens a non-winning door.
That is, if the player picks a door with nothing the game host picks the other door with nothing.
And if the player picks the door with a car, the game host randomly picks either of the two doors with nothing

This means there are three possible scenarios, each with equal probability (1/3):

The player picks empty door number 1. The game host picks the other empty door. Switching will win the car.
The player picks empty door number 2. The game host picks the other empty door. Switching will win the car.
The player picks the car. The game host picks either of the two empty doors. Switching will lose.

Kind of hard to get your mind around that one, but I'll be damned if it isn't right.

TheProfessor 02-18-2006 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2
The advantage to switching comes from the fact that the game show host doesn't open a door at random, he ALWAYS opens a non-winning door.

Great job!
(off to bed now - more posts in a few hours)

OY 02-18-2006 03:05 AM

LOL - these last few posts are MONEY!!! :1orglaugh

ffmihai 02-18-2006 03:08 AM

very good to read this!

baddog 02-18-2006 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2
The advantage to switching comes from the fact that the game show host doesn't open a door at random, he ALWAYS opens a non-winning door.


Wait . . . . never mind . . . too late for this.

JFK 02-18-2006 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Wait . . . . never mind . . . too late for this.

you're just going to give up n go??:(

baddog 02-18-2006 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK
you're just going to give up n go??:(

Not a matter of giving up . . . I am trying to convince myself, but am not having much success.

JFK 02-18-2006 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Not a matter of giving up . . . I am trying to convince myself, but am not having much success.

Go the extra Mile:winkwink:

Drake 02-18-2006 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i guess you didn't like my questions.... :disgust

Your questions are great as usual. I just like to compliment them:)

Drake 02-18-2006 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TheProfessor
Q: Do you own offline businesses?

A: Not yet - want to start one?


A close friend of mine does, I'll ask him to contact you. It's not a brick and mortar project per se either.:)

breaker 02-18-2006 08:40 AM

I've learned from school in math that you should always change your mind if you are presented to this 3 option game problem :D We even did a few tests in class and it showed up to be true.

Xenophage 02-18-2006 09:09 AM

Now you see the mental mastrubation I have to go through on a daily basis to get andrew to agree with me hahahha the 3 door conversation is like our every day debate. He always pulls some math outta the woodwwork. its good though keeps me on my toes. He is also a ruthless negotiator due to his Jimmy Neutron syndrome :)

kristin 02-18-2006 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by breaker
I've learned from school in math that you should always change your mind if you are presented to this 3 option game problem :D We even did a few tests in class and it showed up to be true.

My earth science teacher taught us that if you didn't know touch the tip of your four fingers and smash them on the desk, whichever tingles the most, go with that answer. I did a few of those "test" answers in class ... showed up to be ... eh, true and not so true. ; )

Personally, I am suppose to go with my first inclination, but I always switch. Gets me in trouble everytime, I'm trying to learn to go with my first instinct.

Anyways, let's get some more answers, we're waiting! : )

JenniDahling 02-18-2006 09:58 AM

Q: If you had to choose between money, power, or women, which would you choose?

A: I'd choose the lesser of three evils.[/QUOTE]


What if each of these are behind door #1, #2, #3...... :upsidedow



p.s. hi Andrew -- great interview! Awesome questions Sleazy -- "inquiring minds" want to know!!!!!!:thumbsup

gecko 02-18-2006 11:01 AM

Great interview.

TheProfessor 02-18-2006 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
6. What about that Jerry Wang kid that wanted to borrow one of your servers in the 90s. What deal did he offer you?

Oh, I think his name was Jerry Yang - he started a little website
called Yahoo. One day in 1994 he visited my web development company
looking for someone to give him free hosting for his site (probably
for a cut). Well, to make a sad story short, he didn't host with us.

Karupted Charles 02-18-2006 11:31 AM

Its always a pleasure to see intelligent people that use real business principals to make money in adult get recognized.

TheProfessor 02-18-2006 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
7. Discuss your fear of flying. How did it come about? Will you ever get on an airplane again?

Ever since I had an engine burst into flames on a flight over the
pacific -- the electrical systems went haywire and not just the passengers
but the stewardesses were going hysterical -- it's been hard to hop in a plane.
But I've resolved to do it this year or become buds with John Madden.

u-Bob 02-18-2006 11:58 AM

woj :)

Jman 02-18-2006 12:04 PM

Hey Andrew, you want to do a link trade ;-)

Sriously, this is a great interview and I am soo looking forward for upcomign questions. I think this will be the Smartest Ambush Sleazy's done.

Cheers!!!

Spunky 02-18-2006 12:05 PM

Interesting interview..good questions and answers

betsy! 02-18-2006 12:26 PM

oh man catching up on this thread almost broke my brain! All that math talk? Damn i'm glad it's only saturday. :)

Mr. Romance 02-18-2006 12:31 PM

Great interview and company....

Pornwolf 02-18-2006 12:44 PM

Cool interview. Andrew, I hope you don't mind a couple of hardball questions...

1. Have you seen any effect of Myspace & other free services on A. Your Business & B. the overall sector.

2. What is the average retention sitewide on AFF and FF.

3. Which FFI sites retains the longest?

4. What's the ratio of free members to paid?

We always hear stuff about Adult Friend Finder FF but we rarely hear about the other "900" sites in the protfolio we are able to promote. Tell us about them.

TheProfessor 02-18-2006 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
8. I hear you live in a shack, how come you don't buy a mansion or a giant farm or something?

Yah, most shacks in the bay area cost more than mansions anywhere else.
Here's a lovely example http://www.mlslistings.com/common/properties/propertyDetail.asp?open=0&page=1&mls_number=607576 &type=property&name= or go large with
http://www.mlslistings.com/common/properties/propertyDetail.asp?open=0&page=1&mls_number=604406 &type=property&name=http://www.mlslistings.com/common/pr...property&name=
I do have my eyes open for a ranch or farm though - somewhere I can
motor around in a tractor and dig up stuff. :)

Shoehorn! 02-18-2006 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheProfessor
Yah, most shacks in the bay area cost more than mansions anywhere else.
Here's a lovely example http://www.mlslistings.com/common/properties/propertyDetail.asp?open=0&page=1&mls_number=607576 &type=property&name= or go large with
http://www.mlslistings.com/common/properties/propertyDetail.asp?open=0&page=1&mls_number=604406 &type=property&name=http://www.mlslistings.com/common/pr...property&name=
I do have my eyes open for a ranch or farm though - somewhere I can
motor around in a tractor and dig up stuff. :)

Damn, thats almost as bad as Hawaii. :Oh crap

V_RocKs 02-18-2006 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i guess you didn't like my questions.... :disgust

Just wanted some solid business related questions...

betsy! 02-18-2006 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheProfessor
Yah, most shacks in the bay area cost more than mansions anywhere else.

Those examples remind me why my husband and I stopped looking... It was way too depressing. Even if you can afford a home, it just seems wrong to pay those prices for such un-impressive houses. When I was younger, that is definetly not what I thought a "million dollar home" would look like!


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