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skinnay 02-17-2006 02:26 AM

50 no sales

UniqueMovies 02-17-2006 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp
so most of those hits came from the hun?
people tell me he pushes 300+ K to a top gallery

I have two gals on thehun main page.

One got listed 24hrs ago the other just got listed a few hrs ago.

I got 123,000hits from him so far.

the Shemp 02-17-2006 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies
I have two gals on thehun main page.

One got listed 24hrs ago the other just got listed a few hrs ago.

I got 123,000hits from him so far.

in the old days, if i had a strike out day, i would get one of my friends to sign up to make sure the system was working ;)

UniqueMovies 02-17-2006 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp
in the old days, if i had a strike out day, i would get one of my friends to sign up to make sure the system was working ;)

I lost enough profit today thanks.. lol

SomeCreep 02-17-2006 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies
I have two gals on thehun main page.

One got listed 24hrs ago the other just got listed a few hrs ago.

I got 123,000hits from him so far.

Do you submit galleries to thehun everyday?

UniqueMovies 02-17-2006 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep
Do you submit galleries to thehun everyday?

sshhhhh :)

He obviously dont care because they are both the same domain name.

UniqueMovies 02-17-2006 02:46 AM

Honestly I dont think I am going to submit there anymore. The amount of bandwidth he burned I would need to make good sales to break even.

Manowar 02-17-2006 03:53 AM

damn that sucks

flashfire 02-17-2006 04:00 AM

man thats brutal

SmokeyTheBear 02-17-2006 04:11 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
I'll give you $10 for every 400,000 hits you send. it's better than getting $0


Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies
:321GFY.....


11$ :1orglaugh

gr-FX 02-17-2006 04:23 AM

just last week i got my very 1st post in thehun and got 5 sales dud :thumbsup

now i know why everybody want to get post at thehun. :winkwink:

andrej_NDC 02-17-2006 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp
so most of those hits came from the hun?
people tell me he pushes 300+ K to a top gallery

its more... :)

Ross 02-17-2006 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies
little under 3,000 clickthru's

Shit you gotta be kidding me? You're doing something wrong man.

I get about the same traffic to my gals as you and I send minimum of 12K per day to various sponsors. Even at that I don't think thats enough.

chadglni 02-17-2006 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross
Shit you gotta be kidding me? You're doing something wrong man.

I get about the same traffic to my gals as you and I send minimum of 12K per day to various sponsors. Even at that I don't think thats enough.

He's been doing this 5 years, nothing to learn! :upsidedow

Nicky 02-17-2006 07:10 AM

3k sponsor hits from 400k traffic :error

Ross 02-17-2006 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
He's been doing this 5 years, nothing to learn! :upsidedow

You think? I've been doing it 4 years and I still learn new shit every day.

justsexxx 02-17-2006 07:53 AM

300K uniques or 300K HITS?

Nylz 02-17-2006 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies
are you a submitter? trust me 0.5% CT is normal.

come again? :eek7

jayeff 02-17-2006 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest
The "funny" thing about a lot of the smaller $20-50/month to submit sites was that it was started in order to weed out the "cheaters".

You are not seeing the problem in the right perspective.

If a TGP accepts public submissions, even a small TGP will quickly get 500+ submissions a day. Maybe 40% of those galleries will be good enough, if not to actually encourage surfers to visit the TGP again, at least not deter them (maybe 10% have a real chance to earn some money, but that isn't the TGP operator's problem).

Review all of them - 4 hours work for even the most cursory review - and that leaves the TGP with 200 galleries a day, of which as few as 30 may actually be needed. A huge waste of time and even a nominal charge will slash those submissions.

Of course submission fees don't stop all cheaters, but they are extremely effective at getting rid of the majority of time wasters and all but the small number of cheats who take their business seriously. The TGP operator makes some extra cash, reduces his workload considerably, and cleans up his site: not a bad result from one simple measure.

That said, many TGP's are just taking the p*ss and practises such as charging submitters simply to be reviewed is lousy ethics at best. In most normal industries, potential customers would stay away in droves and working like that would be a quick way to get bitten in the ass. But this is online porn, where bandwagons substitute for professional judgement and there is always another flock of sheep...

Nylz 02-17-2006 08:02 AM

Also..

the site you're promoting seems to load very slow..

bigdog 02-17-2006 08:34 AM

Post one of your galleries and maybe we can see what you are doing wrong.

Rui 02-17-2006 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies
That clickthru ratio is insane. I am lucky to get 0.5% click thru

Please tell me thats a joke...:helpme :error

KRL 02-17-2006 08:43 AM

The CTR should be higher, but I think a lot of folks have experienced 3000 CT's and no sales when sent to a mismatched or shaving sponsor.

Basic_man 02-17-2006 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIPimp
I think its time for you to try a new sponsor...

Yeah lol .. 400,000 hits without a sale.. that's kinda BAD !

Grapesoda 02-17-2006 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies
Yeah... every month goes by more free sites go paid and the paid accounts get more expensive because of high demand. Wonder when this bubble is going to burst.


same time the high priced model bubble will pop i suppose

AmateurFlix 02-17-2006 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL
The CTR should be higher, but I think a lot of folks have experienced 3000 CT's and no sales when sent to a mismatched or shaving sponsor.

the CTR should be much higher, however galleries with very low CTR usually tend to show better sponsor ratios anyway, so 0:3k on 0.5% CTR is still very suspicious IMO... it's like 0:15k for a 2.5% CTR gallery; the most motivated buyers will find the link regardless of the design. Dunno if he's sending to just one sponsor or what but I'd check out their tour pages very carefully...

wonderman 02-17-2006 09:11 AM

Hot movies has been saying for 2 years that the subscription model with recurr billing is dead. No body wants to do that anymore. Check this out..

http://www.2dollarplace.com/users

Dirty F 02-17-2006 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies
little under 3,000 clickthru's


Holy shit dude...thats fucking bad.

Downtime 02-17-2006 10:39 AM

that sucks man, but don't give up

tgpmakers 02-17-2006 11:11 AM

That happens sometimes just change gallery template and sponsor gotta keep trying damn frustrating at times man!

Sosa 02-17-2006 11:20 AM

wow that is crazy. Yesterday was one of my best $$$ days ever :)

Tempest 02-17-2006 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff
You are not seeing the problem in the right perspective.

If a TGP accepts public submissions, even a small TGP will quickly get 500+ submissions a day. Maybe 40% of those galleries will be good enough, if not to actually encourage surfers to visit the TGP again, at least not deter them (maybe 10% have a real chance to earn some money, but that isn't the TGP operator's problem).

Review all of them - 4 hours work for even the most cursory review - and that leaves the TGP with 200 galleries a day, of which as few as 30 may actually be needed. A huge waste of time and even a nominal charge will slash those submissions.

Of course submission fees don't stop all cheaters, but they are extremely effective at getting rid of the majority of time wasters and all but the small number of cheats who take their business seriously. The TGP operator makes some extra cash, reduces his workload considerably, and cleans up his site: not a bad result from one simple measure.

That said, many TGP's are just taking the p*ss and practises such as charging submitters simply to be reviewed is lousy ethics at best. In most normal industries, potential customers would stay away in droves and working like that would be a quick way to get bitten in the ass. But this is online porn, where bandwagons substitute for professional judgement and there is always another flock of sheep...

I am a TGP operator so I understand fully about the cost of reviewing all those galleries etc. Better software can help a LOT with reducing the cheaters and even the crap gallery submissions. But that software doesn't exist for the vast majority of TGP operators. If you're a huge stable site that has a shit load of inbound links already, then going to paid partner accounts can be a good idea (although if your that big your probably hiring cheap labor to build your own galleries on other domains as well). But cutting back on all those "free" inbound links when you're not a huge site or established, is just folly in my opinion. In fact, the truly smart operator will think of ways to maximize all those recip links.

John69 02-17-2006 07:59 PM

I have had many galleries listed on the Hun, if it's not brand new content, most likely you wont get one sale, as those bookmarkers have allready bought a membership, if it's been done before your flushing your $$$ down the toilet.

remember that next time you try the Hun. :pimp

volante 02-17-2006 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp
so most of those hits came from the hun?
people tell me he pushes 300+ K to a top gallery

I got 140k from a mid-listed gallery a few days ago.


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