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Juggcash stats?

05-07-2006, 12:17 AM

Man, I've never EVER seen these kind of stats

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4126 uniques 2418 join page... 1 (one) sale

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3226 uniques 1512 join page 7 sales (since Monday)
7022 uniques (no join page stats) 11 sales (since May 1st)
4006 uniques 1113 join page 3 full sales 2 trials (since May 1st)

Same traffic, same kind of gallery (4x movies ultra clean galleries)

It's a shame, because their content rocks, but money talks and so far their sales barely cover the BW since I started promoting them, so... guess I just need to move out
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05-07-2006, 12:19 AM

sounds bad...

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05-07-2006, 12:21 AM

have you talked with them?

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05-07-2006, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by xclusive

have you talked with them?

nope. why would I? They will start to convert all of the sudden? If so, then we've a problem, I can live with them not converting, I'm not drama prone, they don't sell... well, move on, there are hundreds of affiliate programs out there. And thousands of affiliates, so not a big loss for anyone

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05-07-2006, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by alan-l

Man, I've never EVER seen these kind of stats

TODAY:
4126 uniques 2418 join page... 1 (one) sale

Other programs
3226 uniques 1512 join page 7 sales (since Monday)
7022 uniques (no join page stats) 11 sales (since May 1st)
4006 uniques 1113 join page 3 full sales 2 trials (since May 1st)

Same traffic, same kind of gallery (4x movies ultra clean galleries)

It's a shame, because their content rocks, but money talks and so far their sales barely cover the BW since I started promoting them, so... guess I just need to move out

what kind of traffic?

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05-07-2006, 12:56 AM

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05-07-2006, 12:57 AM

Damn, I wanted to promote their sites.
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05-07-2006, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by alan-l

galleries

Every TGP/MGP I see is already flooded with Juggcash galleries. Maybe that's why your conversions are bad.

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05-07-2006, 01:26 AM

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Every TGP/MGP I see is already flooded with Juggcash galleries. Maybe that's why your conversions are bad.

well, that's once of the possible explanations I was thinking about, but that would explain people not going to join page. However, once people reaches join page massively... I don't know, I'd think about processor problems, ultrahard scrubbing, bad luck... either way, it sucks.

No big deal, just posting my LAST experience with them the same way I signed because of some hip with stats, which I know 90% of times are fake or "reverse shaved" (yes, I wasn't born yesterday). Anyway, move on, nothing to see here, guess just ranting
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05-07-2006, 01:44 AM

You get a good gallery to join ratio. I am always surprised by the difference between sponsors too, it's real strange sometimes, same everything except sales :D

on a side but related note, what would people consider a good 1st to 2nd page ratio??? Out of webmasters hand i know but what do you consider acceptable before moving on?

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05-07-2006, 02:16 AM

What makes you think you can compare "unique" numbers across programs?

If you can display bandwidth stats per gallery domain and you can idenfity each sponsor by a unique domain then GB of bandwidth/# sales is a good metric that works ACROSS sponsors.

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4126 uniques 2418 join page... 1 (one) sale

Other programs
3226 uniques 1512 join page 7 sales (since Monday)
7022 uniques (no join page stats) 11 sales (since May 1st)
4006 uniques 1113 join page 3 full sales 2 trials (since May 1st)

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05-07-2006, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by David - PG

What makes you think you can compare "unique" numbers across programs?

If you can display bandwidth stats per gallery domain and you can idenfity each sponsor by a unique domain then GB of bandwidth/# sales is a good metric that works ACROSS sponsors.

that someone from perfect gonzo shows up to talk about uniques surprises me lol
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05-07-2006, 02:47 AM

damn those are brutal
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05-07-2006, 04:08 AM

1:1157
Traffic comes from galleries and blogs.
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05-07-2006, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by Trax

that someone from perfect gonzo shows up to talk about uniques surprises me lol
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05-07-2006, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by alan-l

well, that's once of the possible explanations I was thinking about, but that would explain people not going to join page. However, once people reaches join page massively... I don't know, I'd think about processor problems, ultrahard scrubbing, bad luck... either way, it sucks.

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05-07-2006, 08:03 AM

Something is up with their stats for sure, I checked it out and found something interesting. Keep your eyes on this one.

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05-07-2006, 08:05 AM

I emailed the affilaite manager just now with this thread. I have noticed the same thing.

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05-07-2006, 08:28 AM

damn that ratio makes me throwup

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05-07-2006, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by David - PG

What makes you think you can compare "unique" numbers across programs?

If you can display bandwidth stats per gallery domain and you can idenfity each sponsor by a unique domain then GB of bandwidth/# sales is a good metric that works ACROSS sponsors.

well, I could do that if I want, and believe numbers would be worse. However, when you use the same layout, traffic and evrything, then it's a pretty fair comparisson. Let's measure it another way if you want: all other programs, when surfer gets to join page, 1 out or 200 get their wallet off his pocket. In Juggcash case, at least yesterday, it seems to be 1 in 4200+. Like it better?
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05-07-2006, 02:20 PM

mine have been just as bad, icq me alan

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05-07-2006, 02:22 PM

Mine were just as bad, so I had to quit promoting them. Sucks cause they have some of the hottest content around.

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05-07-2006, 03:08 PM

thats interesting, i was planning on using them too
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05-07-2006, 03:21 PM

I am also planning to stop promoting them. Sent over 2000 clicks with 0 sales.
Perhaps big boobed milfs aren't selling so good as we were thinking, perhaps they aren't kinky enough.
My traffic is tgp traffic and all other programs I promote do convert.
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05-07-2006, 03:23 PM

I haven't been able to convert them lately.
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05-07-2006, 03:24 PM

I stopped sending traffic as well, once ratios started going south like that.

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05-07-2006, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by gfx3

I am also planning to stop promoting them. Sent over 2000 clicks with 0 sales.
Perhaps big boobed milfs aren't selling so good as we were thinking, perhaps they aren't kinky enough.
My traffic is tgp traffic and all other programs I promote do convert.

what if you get 3 sales in the next 1000 uniques u send?

2000 clicks is not enough to test a sponsor.

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05-07-2006, 03:33 PM

They use NATS and their stats show first page raw and unique, and then join page unique. So try using one of your own linking codes or a FHG and see how it tracks your clicks.

Join page clicks are showing up as qualify=1 and then showing in your stats as 1st page uniques as a result. So what are the join uniques? And then isn't the first page unique actually your join page unique since join page is showing as qualify=1 if you follow your own linking codes and FHG gallery links?

Seems very interesting to me but what do I know anyway.

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05-07-2006, 03:40 PM

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05-07-2006, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by bdld

thats interesting, i was planning on using them too

interesting..I just sign up last week to start promoting
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05-07-2006, 05:57 PM

Those are some nice ratios...

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05-07-2006, 06:37 PM

wrong postr
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05-07-2006, 08:05 PM

Started out with a bang then 1:2312

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05-07-2006, 08:07 PM

this whole month suck balls. good thing for rebills christ a fuckin mighty

juggcash is kickin ass though retains well
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05-08-2006, 04:59 AM

Well actually you guys aren't alone first week i went
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05-08-2006, 05:03 AM

Originally posted by Trax

that someone from perfect gonzo shows up to talk about uniques surprises me lol

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05-08-2006, 05:26 AM

I am not suprised you don't understand a thing.

Originally posted by Trax

that someone from perfect gonzo shows up to talk about uniques surprises me lol

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05-08-2006, 06:23 AM

zero sales so far
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05-08-2006, 06:31 AM

they do have some nice looking sites
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05-08-2006, 06:33 AM

Hmmmm something wrong there
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05-08-2006, 07:10 AM

I know i haven't sent much traffic, so it's nothing to brag about, but last month i had pretty good ratios for my traffic, Brazzer and Cheeks are solid and hardworking people, and imho they created a badass affiliate program.
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05-08-2006, 07:13 AM

Have anyone check if the billers are processing fine?
also check my stats for JuggCash http://www.partnerpass.com/sponsor.juggcash/index.html

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05-08-2006, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by David - PG

I am not suprised you don't understand a thing.

Interesting you act like that....Trax is a pretty serious webmaster. Also he meant it pobably as a joke, since I don't know what you guys track, but it must be 8498448 page unqiues. Of course what matters are the sales, but tke it easy jeez

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05-08-2006, 07:47 AM

I don't care what or who Trax is. His comment is misleading and tells me he should not comment on things he obviously only has vague assumptions about.

Perfectgonzo made first page uniques available since day 1 = December 2003. You can click every date in the stats display and see first page uniques for that date. Ratios (!) are calculated based on join page uniques (or as you scientifically called it "8498448 page unqiues"). What on earth does this have to do with tracking or the accuracy of tracking?

I'm sorry if I hurt anybodys feelings I just don't like fact and fiction being confused when it comes to our company.

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Interesting you act like that....Trax is a pretty serious webmaster. Also he meant it pobably as a joke, since I don't know what you guys track, but it must be 8498448 page unqiues. Of course what matters are the sales, but tke it easy jeez

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05-08-2006, 08:09 AM

Some people are doing good , others are doing bad , its the name of the game...We convert very good on almost everybody's traffic. Since we launched , we've only went up in terms of total sales , rebills etc .

Instead of posting on boards , and complaining about bad ratios , why not hit us up and work with us to make this a successful venture ? We are experts in the traffic game , and we know our sites better than anyone, we can help you make things better im sure.

The content is good , the sites are good , we're far from saturation as we add huge amounts of new content every week, over the board our conversions are far better than industry standards. If you are having bad results , we'll work with you , we know we can make you more money on your traffic , its all about tweaking the details.

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05-08-2006, 09:32 AM

This is what sponsors always say, hit us up first and we'll help in order to get things better. I just find it strange that I have the same problems at exact the same time. It started really great and since a few days not a single sale and about 1:3000, before it was like 1:800 and I made a few sales daily. I just think it's strange.
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05-08-2006, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by Brazzer

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The content is good , the sites are good , we're far from saturation as we add huge amounts of new content every week, over the board our conversions are far better than industry standards. If you are having bad results , we'll work with you , we know we can make you more money on your traffic , its all about tweaking the details.

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05-08-2006, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by Brazzer

Some people are doing good , others are doing bad , its the name of the game...We convert very good on almost everybody's traffic. Since we launched , we've only went up in terms of total sales , rebills etc .

Instead of posting on boards , and complaining about bad ratios , why not hit us up and work with us to make this a successful venture ? We are experts in the traffic game , and we know our sites better than anyone, we can help you make things better im sure.

The content is good , the sites are good , we're far from saturation as we add huge amounts of new content every week, over the board our conversions are far better than industry standards. If you are having bad results , we'll work with you , we know we can make you more money on your traffic , its all about tweaking the details.

Been there done that. I like the sites and all though.

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05-08-2006, 10:56 AM

JuggCash are good guys, they convert!
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05-08-2006, 10:59 AM

I am not happy with my stats either...

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