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  • xlogger
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2004
    • 9507

    #1

    European BW is dirt cheap!

    Seriously, did you guys know this?

    Not only do some european hosting companies have dirt cheap (yes less than cogent!), they even have better networks. The reason they have cheap bw is because of good peering relationships there. Anyone here on a european host (UK)?

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  • Tempest
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • May 2004
    • 10217

    #2
    Didn't know that, but I'd like to get some virtual accounts on some servers located in Italy, the UK, netherlands and maybe Spain..

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    • xlogger
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2004
      • 9507

      #3
      Originally posted by Tempest
      Didn't know that, but I'd like to get some virtual accounts on some servers located in Italy, the UK, netherlands and maybe Spain..
      Definitely check some EU hosts. (go to WHT and search for them)

      I actually ordered 2 big ass servers today. They will be online tomorrow - they will be fast and they will save me a load of $$$.

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      • xlogger
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2004
        • 9507

        #4
        O shit, i totally forgot about this.

        No more 2257 bullshits either!

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        • JOKER
          Facit Omnia Voluntas
          • Apr 2003
          • 2105

          #5
          France = Dirtcheap (mostly free peerings, but good networks)

          Germany = Dirtcheap, but sometimes strange TOS and Laws...

          NL = Cheap and good.

          Sweden = Hard to get, but worth it.

          Austria, Switzerland = soon, most buy in Germany

          UK = unsure, not the best references I've found.

          Still looking into many more.
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          • spacekadet
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2005
            • 328

            #6
            Any good EU hosting reccomendations?
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            • MrJazz99
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2006
              • 362

              #7
              Contact me bout swedish bw, i can pull some strings....

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              [email protected] ICQ: 258-058-968

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              • xlogger
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2004
                • 9507

                #8
                Originally posted by spacekadet
                Any good EU hosting reccomendations?
                The compant that i am going with seems very good.

                I just want to make some test runs before i can reccomend them.
                Last edited by xlogger; 02-14-2006, 09:29 PM.

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                • JOKER
                  Facit Omnia Voluntas
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 2105

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MrJazz99
                  Contact me bout swedish bw, i can pull some strings....
                  hit me up on ICQ with pricing if you have any plans handy.

                  Thanx,
                  Steve
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                  • JOKER
                    Facit Omnia Voluntas
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 2105

                    #10
                    Originally posted by spacekadet
                    Any good EU hosting reccomendations?
                    What country and specs are you interested in?
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                    • spacekadet
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 328

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JOKEREMPIRE
                      What country and specs are you interested in?
                      I like what I've heard about NL

                      1x 50mbps
                      dual xeon

                      5x 10mbps
                      p4s

                      unmetered.. Thanks
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                      • strobi
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 7383

                        #12
                        Originally posted by spacekadet
                        Any good EU hosting reccomendations?
                        Check out adult EU host -> adultEUhost

                        10 mbit dedicated for 145 euros/month, and hellah fast!

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                        • Theo
                          HAL 9000
                          • May 2001
                          • 34515

                          #13
                          i can personally vouch for www.webazilla.com

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                          • strobi
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 7383

                            #14
                            Originally posted by spacekadet
                            I like what I've heard about NL

                            1x 50mbps
                            dual xeon

                            5x 10mbps
                            p4s

                            unmetered.. Thanks
                            You can get that for 850$ (5 server, 10 mbit uncapped).

                            Alot of GFY'ers host there!

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                            • SomeCreep
                              :glugglug
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 26118

                              #15
                              around the world, around the world...

                              Webair Hosting

                              I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

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                              • spacekadet
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 328

                                #16
                                Originally posted by strobi
                                You can get that for 850$ (5 server, 10 mbit uncapped).

                                Alot of GFY'ers host there!
                                Thanks strobi I'll check it out
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                                • spacekadet
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2005
                                  • 328

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by xlogger
                                  The compant that i am going with seems very good.

                                  I just want to make some test runs before i can reccomend them.
                                  don't be shy
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                                  • JOKER
                                    Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                    • Apr 2003
                                    • 2105

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by spacekadet
                                    I like what I've heard about NL

                                    1x 50mbps
                                    dual xeon

                                    5x 10mbps
                                    p4s

                                    unmetered.. Thanks
                                    http://www.leaseweb.com/index.php?p=dedicatedvolume

                                    or build your own:

                                    http://www.leaseweb.com/index.php?p=...erverdedicated

                                    Study the site a little, about SLA, Connectivity etc.

                                    As reference for other countries:

                                    France: http://www.ikoula.com/Serveurs/Serve...5/Default.aspx

                                    http://ovh.com/en/

                                    http://www.ctn1.net/?lg=en (sometimes sold out)

                                    Germany: http://ipx.de

                                    (Non-Adult) Germany: http://strato.de/server/highend/index.html


                                    Thats all the cheap ones...
                                    Last edited by JOKER; 02-14-2006, 09:55 PM.
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                                    • spacekadet
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2005
                                      • 328

                                      #19
                                      wow, thanks!
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                                      • JOKER
                                        Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                        • Apr 2003
                                        • 2105

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by spacekadet
                                        wow, thanks!
                                        Welcome... If you have any questions, leave me an ICQ msg, as I'll be hitting the cushions soon...
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                                        • Sarah_Jayne
                                          Now with more Jayne
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 40077

                                          #21
                                          I wouldn't host porn in the UK..just my view though

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                                          • Matt_WildCash
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 1699

                                            #22
                                            Considering 80-90% of people buying porn are in the USA I feel its best to keep things in the USA, even if its on cogent its still going to be better than going all the way to Europe and back speed wise.

                                            And when I say 80-90% I mean for paysites paying PPS. Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards, is scared of using them or the billing companies CCbill & Epoch block most of them. Dunno but 80-90% of credit card orders on paysites which are the basis for PPS programs are still USA based. And any other ways of billing Europe usually =$2-5 once off per customer for the paysite owner nothing more. Other billing options suck plan and simple for Europe. Would be good to see that change.

                                            Good to see bandwidth dropping elsewhere though, what can you get a 100mbit pipe for in Europe these days for?

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                                            • u-Bob
                                              there's no $$$ in porn
                                              • Jul 2005
                                              • 33063

                                              #23
                                              AdultEUHost <--- GREAT.

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                                              • digifan
                                                The Profiler
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 14618

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                I wouldn't host porn in the UK..just my view though
                                                Why is this?
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                                                • Sarah_Jayne
                                                  Now with more Jayne
                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                  • 40077

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by digifan
                                                  Why is this?

                                                  Because the law regarding porn on the internet aren't clear. If you are doing anything beyond basic softcore I would keep off UK hosts.

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                                                  • xxxory
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Jan 2006
                                                    • 16

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Matt_WildCash
                                                    Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards, is scared of using them or the billing companies CCbill & Epoch block most of them.
                                                    You should try to get an european bank account without any credit card, nearly impossible these days!
                                                    ~> Pimp My Income Updated January 29th, 2006

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                                                    • mattyboy
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 1070

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Matt_WildCash
                                                      Good to see bandwidth dropping elsewhere though, what can you get a 100mbit pipe for in Europe these days for?
                                                      I've seen...

                                                      Cpu 2.8
                                                      1024Mb ram
                                                      120GB harddisk
                                                      100Mbit Bandwith

                                                      1365,- euros
                                                      per month no setup

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                                                      • mattyboy
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 1070

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Matt_WildCash
                                                        Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards, is scared of using them or the billing companies CCbill & Epoch block most of them.
                                                        Are you nuts??

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                                                        • digifan
                                                          The Profiler
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 14618

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                          Because the law regarding porn on the internet aren't clear. If you are doing anything beyond basic softcore I would keep off UK hosts.
                                                          Oh I see... makes sense to me thanks
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                                                          • XX_RydeR
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                            • 2151

                                                            #30
                                                            I just got another server.

                                                            Fully managed dedicated server, decent specs, and unmetered bandwith for under $300.

                                                            I dont think bandwidth is so expensive.
                                                            You Dun Goofed!

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                                                            • jjjay
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Jun 2005
                                                              • 1813

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Matt_WildCash
                                                              Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards...
                                                              I stopped reading right there. what the fucking are you talking about??

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                                                              • strobi
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                • 7383

                                                                #32
                                                                Some good info in this thread, so bump! BW is getting chhheeeaaappppp.

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                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                  • 52942

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Matt_WildCash
                                                                  Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards, is scared of using them or the billing companies CCbill & Epoch block most of them.
                                                                  We also don't have hot and cold running water or electricity.

                                                                  You're very mistaken.



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                                                                  • chowda
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 9527

                                                                    #34
                                                                    good list

                                                                    post if theres more.
                                                                    Someone finds you...
                                                                    2007

                                                                    PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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                                                                    • ServerGenius
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                      • 9377

                                                                      #35
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                                                                      • webair
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                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                        • 8531

                                                                        #36
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                                                                        • ServerGenius
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                          • 9377

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Matt_WildCash
                                                                          Considering 80-90% of people buying porn are in the USA I feel its best to keep things in the USA, even if its on cogent its still going to be better than going all the way to Europe and back speed wise.

                                                                          And when I say 80-90% I mean for paysites paying PPS. Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards, is scared of using them or the billing companies CCbill & Epoch block most of them. Dunno but 80-90% of credit card orders on paysites which are the basis for PPS programs are still USA based. And any other ways of billing Europe usually =$2-5 once off per customer for the paysite owner nothing more. Other billing options suck plan and simple for Europe. Would be good to see that change.

                                                                          Good to see bandwidth dropping elsewhere though, what can you get a 100mbit pipe for in Europe these days for?
                                                                          Please for your own sake stop making an ass out of yourself.....really you make yourself look like a bigger fool than you probably already are
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                                                                          • Scotty.T
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                                            • 1062

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Matt_WildCash
                                                                            Most of Europe either doesn't have creditcards, is scared of using them...
                                                                            I don't know about that, where is that from?

                                                                            The current credit card debt in the UK alone would buy membership to over 2.5 Billion porn sites
                                                                            Last edited by Scotty.T; 02-15-2006, 07:09 AM. Reason: Typo
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                                                                            • Violetta
                                                                              Affiliate
                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                              • 28735

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by xlogger
                                                                              O shit, i totally forgot about this.

                                                                              No more 2257 bullshits either!
                                                                              that is always a good reason!
                                                                              M&A Queen

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                                                                              • jjjay
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Jun 2005
                                                                                • 1813

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                We also don't have hot and cold running water or electricity.

                                                                                You're very mistaken.
                                                                                yup. never understood where some people on this board get their information from...

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                                                                                • Blizzard
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                                                  • 200

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  It's called free peering, free peering bandwidth is worse than oversold Cogent.

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                                                                                  • mikeyddddd
                                                                                    Viva la vulva!
                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 16557

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by xlogger
                                                                                    O shit, i totally forgot about this.

                                                                                    No more 2257 bullshits either!
                                                                                    Originally posted by Rockatansky
                                                                                    that is always a good reason!
                                                                                    But, not true for US companies and webmasters. If you are US based, you must be 2257 compliant no matter where your server is located.

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                                                                                    • ServerGenius
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                      • 9377

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      So incorperate in the EU (easy and cheap and great tax benefits for Foreigners).

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                                                                                      • crockett
                                                                                        in a van by the river
                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                        • 76818

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by xlogger
                                                                                        O shit, i totally forgot about this.

                                                                                        No more 2257 bullshits either!
                                                                                        umm I dunno why on earth you would think that? If you are US based it doesn't matter where you host, you are required to follow US laws.
                                                                                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                        • fetishblog
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                                                          • 5995

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                          umm I dunno why on earth you would think that? If you are US based it doesn't matter where you host, you are required to follow US laws.
                                                                                          Well there are no court precedents on that yet. Only time will tell.

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                                                                                          • justsexxx
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                                            • 13723

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            STay tuned, and there will be something very very nice for you guys
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                                                                                            • JOKER
                                                                                              Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 2105

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Blizzard
                                                                                              It's called free peering, free peering bandwidth is worse than oversold Cogent.
                                                                                              Bullshit.
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                                                                                              • Marshal
                                                                                                Biz Dev and SEO
                                                                                                • Jun 2005
                                                                                                • 15219

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                umm I dunno why on earth you would think that? If you are US based it doesn't matter where you host, you are required to follow US laws.
                                                                                                why would you still hold your business in US? start a new firm on any place on this earth which has tax benefits... you might be US based physically, but your business wouldn't be...
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                                                                                                • BigPinPin
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                  • 894

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  go with leaseweb.nl
                                                                                                  great network, service and support

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                                                                                                  • Marshal
                                                                                                    Biz Dev and SEO
                                                                                                    • Jun 2005
                                                                                                    • 15219

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    btw, i have never thought that EU prices could be that low!
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