Muslim leader accuses Cdn publisher of hate crime - GoFuckYourself.com

SilentKnight · 02-14-2006, 10:31 AM

Tue. Feb. 14 2006 11:30 AM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

The national leader of the Canadian Islamic Congress wants an Alberta-based magazine charged with distributing hate literature after it published controversial caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.

The publisher of the Western Standard, Ezra Levant, decided to republish cartoons which have provoked angry riots around the world, saying "freedom of speech trumps political correctness."

The president of the Islamic congress, Mohamed Elmasry, said Levant's argument doesn't hold water.

"We believe the Western Standard actually did transgress many limits. Although the Canadian Islamic Congress and the Canadian Jewish Congress did appeal to the magazine not to republish these offending cartoons they did go ahead and do it," Elmasry said on CTV's Canada AM.

He said the cartoons propagate a negative stereotype of Muslims, and the decision to publish them goes against the will of the Canadian people and "actually affects the well being of minorities in this country."

Elmasry also said the Muslim people have been unfairly targeted, and said he believes the magazine would have acted differently if the cartoons were anti-Semitic.

"I'm sure the Western Standard would not be able to publish and hide behind free press, publishing Holocaust denials or anti-Semitic cartoons, so we have here a big problem," Elmasry said.

The caricatures originally appeared in a Danish newspaper almost six months ago. In January they were reprinted by several European newspapers, prompting rioting in the Middle East and controversy around the world.

Most Canadian publications have chosen not to print the cartoons, opting instead to describe the images.

Levant also appeared on Canada AM and was bluntly unapologetic about his decision to publish the cartoons. He said the cartoons have become a legitimate news item, and as such his magazine has the right to publish them under the principles of free speech.

"Freedom of speech trumps political correctness," Levant said. "I would say our magazine would publish an anti-Semitic or Holocaust denying cartoon if it meant Jews around the world were rioting because of it and burning embassies because of a cartoon. We would want to show our readers what all the fuss was about."

He added: "It's a real news story, and if someone would be offended, well it's a historical artifact, we're going to show it."

The magazine has a circulation of about 40,000, and will appear on newsstands in about 10 days.

Levant, who is Jewish, had some harsh words for Elmasry. He described him as an "idiot" several times, and said he has no moral high ground to lecture him on journalistic integrity.

Levant pointed to controversial comments Elmasry made in October, 2004, when he said all Jews over the age of 18 are fair targets for suicide bombers. Elmasry made the comments on The Michael Coren Show, an Ontario program that runs on Burlington's Crossroads Television System.

Elmasry later repeated the comments in a Globe and Mail interview, but eventually claimed he was expressing a widely-held Palestinian view, not his own personal belief.

The comments sparked outrage at the time, and police launched a probe to determine whether the comments constituted a hate crime.

"He should be lucky we have freedom of speech in Canada because if we were in a country that didn't, he'd be in jail," said Levant.

Meanwhile, a number of bookstores have decided not to run this month's edition of the Western Standard.

"We felt it was deemed offensive by Muslims and that it doesn't serve freedom of expression to flout Muslim sensibilities," Colleen Boschmann, manager of the McNally Robinson store in Calgary told the Canadian Press. McNally Robinson has three stores in Winnipeg and Saskatoon, but none will carry the magazine.

Boschmann said people who wish to view the cartoons can easily find them on the Internet, and putting the magazine on shelves would be an offensive and unnecessary gesture.

The magazine sells fewer than a dozen copies in the Calgary store.

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pr0 · 02-14-2006, 10:36 AM

David Blaine would have been a "prophet" back in those days.....infact, i wonder if Blaine is directly related to jesus & muhammad

G-Rotica · 02-14-2006, 10:38 AM

When will these guys stop?

pr0 · 02-14-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by G-Rotica

When will these guys stop?

when everyone is dead, or converted to islam

Phoenix · 02-14-2006, 10:44 AM

im going to buy a copy of the western standard

what do we do if they burn down our embassies?

BradM · 02-14-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

im going to buy a copy of the western standard

what do we do if they burn down our embassies?

Go to war?

I sure hope so!

CDSmith · 02-14-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

He said the cartoons propagate a negative stereotype of Muslims,

Here's where people's thinking is wrong. MUSLIMS propagate a negative stereotype of muslims, not cartoons.

If they would quit with the suicide bombings and the terrorism and the shootings and the rioting in their streets like they've done for the past 50 years and just act like civilized peaceful humans there would be no negative stereotype.

I'm sure it would do wonders for their tourist trade as well.

Cash · 02-14-2006, 11:03 AM

I'm afraid that Canadian editor's fate is doomed, if a muslim leader says that.

Phoenix · 02-14-2006, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash

I'm afraid that Canadian editor's fate is doomed, if a muslim leader says that.

haha yeah

fuck that...we need to change shit in our country bigtime if that guy gets any flack

im done with muslims

SilentKnight · 02-14-2006, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Here's where people's thinking is wrong. MUSLIMS propagate a negative stereotype of muslims, not cartoons.

Precisely

But they'll never understand that (or at least admit to it). The muslims themselves seem to be their own worst PR nightmare.

This story would have died much sooner had they not flown off the handle over it. The only thing fueling it now is the violence, not the 'toons themselves.

CDSmith · 02-14-2006, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

This story would have died much sooner had they not flown off the handle over it. The only thing fueling it now is the violence, not the 'toons themselves.

Exactly. They can't seem to grasp the simple concept that raising a big fuss about something only sheds 10 times more spotlight on it and gives it the snowball effect.

RuthB · 02-14-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Levant also appeared on Canada AM and was bluntly unapologetic about his decision to publish the cartoons. He said the cartoons have become a legitimate news item, and as such his magazine has the right to publish them under the principles of free speech.

"Freedom of speech trumps political correctness," Levant said. "I would say our magazine would publish an anti-Semitic or Holocaust denying cartoon if it meant Jews around the world were rioting because of it and burning embassies because of a cartoon. We would want to show our readers what all the fuss was about."

He added: "It's a real news story, and if someone would be offended, well it's a historical artifact, we're going to show it."

The magazine has a circulation of about 40,000, and will appear on newsstands in about 10 days.

Levant, who is Jewish, had some harsh words for Elmasry. He described him as an "idiot" several times, and said he has no moral high ground to lecture him on journalistic integrity.

Levant pointed to controversial comments Elmasry made in October, 2004, when he said all Jews over the age of 18 are fair targets for suicide bombers. Elmasry made the comments on The Michael Coren Show, an Ontario program that runs on Burlington's Crossroads Television System.

Always good to see someone making sense and not getting pushed around by the political BS.

stev0 · 02-14-2006, 11:26 AM

Fucking idiots I tell ya... they're pissed off at the way some cartoons depict them, so what do they do about it? Riot and start lighting shit on fire. Seems to confirm the cartoons legitimacy.

sfera · 02-14-2006, 12:03 PM

muslims need afirmitive action too lmao what a bunch of asses

AsianDevil · 02-14-2006, 12:05 PM

LMFAO that's too rich

cool1 · 02-14-2006, 01:21 PM

I wonder if they will riot in the streets here in Canada over this?
They riot else where over it, so why not here.

Dollarmansteve · 02-14-2006, 01:35 PM

When is someone gonna make a cartoon of Mohammed running around burning down embassies, KFCs and Mcdonalds'?

02-14-2006, 10:31 AM	#1
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	Muslim leader accuses Cdn publisher of hate crime Tue. Feb. 14 2006 11:30 AM ET CTV.ca News Staff The national leader of the Canadian Islamic Congress wants an Alberta-based magazine charged with distributing hate literature after it published controversial caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad. The publisher of the Western Standard, Ezra Levant, decided to republish cartoons which have provoked angry riots around the world, saying "freedom of speech trumps political correctness." The president of the Islamic congress, Mohamed Elmasry, said Levant's argument doesn't hold water. "We believe the Western Standard actually did transgress many limits. Although the Canadian Islamic Congress and the Canadian Jewish Congress did appeal to the magazine not to republish these offending cartoons they did go ahead and do it," Elmasry said on CTV's Canada AM. He said the cartoons propagate a negative stereotype of Muslims, and the decision to publish them goes against the will of the Canadian people and "actually affects the well being of minorities in this country." Elmasry also said the Muslim people have been unfairly targeted, and said he believes the magazine would have acted differently if the cartoons were anti-Semitic. "I'm sure the Western Standard would not be able to publish and hide behind free press, publishing Holocaust denials or anti-Semitic cartoons, so we have here a big problem," Elmasry said. The caricatures originally appeared in a Danish newspaper almost six months ago. In January they were reprinted by several European newspapers, prompting rioting in the Middle East and controversy around the world. Most Canadian publications have chosen not to print the cartoons, opting instead to describe the images. Levant also appeared on Canada AM and was bluntly unapologetic about his decision to publish the cartoons. He said the cartoons have become a legitimate news item, and as such his magazine has the right to publish them under the principles of free speech. "Freedom of speech trumps political correctness," Levant said. "I would say our magazine would publish an anti-Semitic or Holocaust denying cartoon if it meant Jews around the world were rioting because of it and burning embassies because of a cartoon. We would want to show our readers what all the fuss was about." He added: "It's a real news story, and if someone would be offended, well it's a historical artifact, we're going to show it." The magazine has a circulation of about 40,000, and will appear on newsstands in about 10 days. Levant, who is Jewish, had some harsh words for Elmasry. He described him as an "idiot" several times, and said he has no moral high ground to lecture him on journalistic integrity. Levant pointed to controversial comments Elmasry made in October, 2004, when he said all Jews over the age of 18 are fair targets for suicide bombers. Elmasry made the comments on The Michael Coren Show, an Ontario program that runs on Burlington's Crossroads Television System. Elmasry later repeated the comments in a Globe and Mail interview, but eventually claimed he was expressing a widely-held Palestinian view, not his own personal belief. The comments sparked outrage at the time, and police launched a probe to determine whether the comments constituted a hate crime. "He should be lucky we have freedom of speech in Canada because if we were in a country that didn't, he'd be in jail," said Levant. Meanwhile, a number of bookstores have decided not to run this month's edition of the Western Standard. "We felt it was deemed offensive by Muslims and that it doesn't serve freedom of expression to flout Muslim sensibilities," Colleen Boschmann, manager of the McNally Robinson store in Calgary told the Canadian Press. McNally Robinson has three stores in Winnipeg and Saskatoon, but none will carry the magazine. Boschmann said people who wish to view the cartoons can easily find them on the Internet, and putting the magazine on shelves would be an offensive and unnecessary gesture. The magazine sells fewer than a dozen copies in the Calgary store. http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...214?hub=Canada

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