Holy Crap! The UN will force the US to close down GITMO? - GoFuckYourself.com

LadyMischief · 02-13-2006, 07:35 PM

Apparently so...

A UN report is expected to call on the United States to close its Guantanamo Bay detention centre in Cuba without delay and transfer the near-500 supposed "enemy combatants" held there to American soil to guarantee them access to fair trials.

A leaked draft of the document, written over 18 months by five independent experts in international law appointed by the UN Commission on Human Rights, says the inmates at Guantanamo are being denied their rights to mental and physical health to a degree that sometimes amounts to torture.

Read more:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...icle345252.ece

fris · 02-13-2006, 07:37 PM

http://www.execulink.com/~chrismccoy/gitmo.wmv

BoyAlley · 02-13-2006, 07:40 PM

Here's the story at the LA Times:

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...ck=1&cset=true

Note the following important fact:

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The report is not legally binding.

Why bother to spend the time and money to come to a conclusion if they're just going to be pussies about it and make it "non-binding"?

riddler · 02-13-2006, 07:41 PM

GITMO needs to remain there.. fuck human rights..

fris · 02-13-2006, 07:42 PM

just close it down, amercian soliders are scum, they can get away with anything.

Martin · 02-13-2006, 07:43 PM

The timing is suspect if you ask me. Right when when it looks like The Muslims are about to start WW3.

Downtime · 02-13-2006, 07:44 PM

The UN has no power because they have no army to enforce their decisions. American troops and firepower are usually standing behind UN decisions; should be interesting to see what happens.

Doctor Dre · 02-13-2006, 07:46 PM

Nothing will happen... any forgein prison is breaking laws...

Relish XXX · 02-13-2006, 07:47 PM

It is great to see the US totally violating all human rights and the Geneva convention.

Yet another reason why a great part of the world hates America.

WiredGuy · 02-13-2006, 07:48 PM

If not in Guantanamo, it'll be done somewhere else. If not under American control, it will be subcontracted to a country or mercaneries who will. There's workarounds for everything. I'm not saying what they're doing is right, I'm just saying we know about this one. I'd rather know about it than have it shut down and going covert about it.
WG

cmos · 02-13-2006, 07:49 PM

Its the american way.

p1mpdogg · 02-13-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

It is great to see the US totally violating all human rights and the Geneva convention.

Yet another reason why a great part of the world hates America.

if everyone hates america.. why do all you n i g g e r s want to come to it. all you 3rd world shit holes should suffer the economic nightmare that we are saving you from.

p1mpdogg · 02-13-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

If not in Guantanamo, it'll be done somewhere else. If not under American control, it will be subcontracted to a country or mercaneries who will. There's workarounds for everything. I'm not saying what they're doing is right, I'm just saying we know about this one. I'd rather know about it than have it shut down and going covert about it.
WG

either way everyone is just gonna stand around with their hands in their pockets anyways

olivier69 · 02-13-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

if everyone hates america.. why do all you n i g g e r s want to come to it. all you 3rd world shit holes should suffer the economic nightmare that we are saving you from.

Extreme crime rates, dead penalty, patriot act put-you-in-jail-without-trial, big amounts of your population in prison and no rights to smoke canabis? I'd rather stay in the netherlands

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The timing is suspect if you ask me. Right when when it looks like The Muslims are about to start WW3.

I think they have been very patient so far, if my country would be invaded for fake reasons or oil, I would have slaughtered you to shit already.

baddog · 02-13-2006, 08:07 PM

hahahahaha - The UN isn't going to force the US to do anything. What are they going to do? Threaten to take their headquarters elsewhere? Good riddance.

Relish XXX · 02-13-2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

if everyone hates america.. why do all you n i g g e r s want to come to it. all you 3rd world shit holes should suffer the economic nightmare that we are saving you from.

I dont mean to piss on your parade but the US is in serious financial difficulty because of the Bush administration. Your mortgages are currently being supported by the Chinese. The world does not all want to come to America.

I have nothing against America. America is its worst enemy. When more terrorist attacks happen on US soil which will probably be in line with 9/11 you will all wonder why.

Maybe shutting down an illegal concentration camp will help prevent this.

baddog · 02-13-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Maybe shutting down an illegal concentration camp will help prevent this.

What makes it illegal?

Pleasurepays · 02-13-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

If not in Guantanamo, it'll be done somewhere else. If not under American control, it will be subcontracted to a country or mercaneries who will. There's workarounds for everything. I'm not saying what they're doing is right, I'm just saying we know about this one. I'd rather know about it than have it shut down and going covert about it.
WG

exactly. a symbolic effort by the same people who didn't mind that osama bin laden was operating terrorist camps all over the middle east before 9/11 and orchestrating terrorist attacks, suddenly have strong opinions about protecting captured taliban fighters and foreign mercinaries and terrorists fighting in or operating from afghanistan.

... and the US is going to care? the idea of "innocent until proven guilty" and treating terrorism as a criminal and legal matter is why they weren't stopped to begin with after the first WTO attack.

crockett · 02-13-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cmos

Its the american way.

and The Russian way, the French way, the British way.. and so on. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but it's not just the US that has done this kind of thing.

olivier69 · 02-13-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

exactly. a symbolic effort by the same people who didn't mind that osama bin laden was operating terrorist camps all over the middle east before 9/11 and orchestrating terrorist attacks, suddenly have strong opinions about protecting captured taliban fighters and foreign mercinaries and terrorists fighting in or operating from afghanistan.

... and the US is going to care? the idea of "innocent until proven guilty" and treating terrorism as a criminal and legal matter is why they weren't stopped to begin with after the first WTO attack.

Let's just holocaust the muslims, and bomb everything.. Prisoners have no rights lets just all fry them too. I love french fries. </end sarcasm>

baddog · 02-13-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by olivier69

Let's just holocaust the muslims, and bomb everything..

Good thinking

Relish XXX · 02-13-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

What makes it illegal?

Technically it is not illegal as you have found a nice legal loop hole to hold people without access to legal aide, who have not been charged and could be innocent.

If it was on US soil it would be illegal. It breaches the Geneva Convention and multitudes of basic human rights.

crockett · 02-13-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

I have nothing against America. America is its worst enemy. When more terrorist attacks happen on US soil which will probably be in line with 9/11 you will all wonder why.

Maybe shutting down an illegal concentration camp will help prevent this.

Again not that I support this administration or it's supposed war on terror.. If what you say is true, what are the excuses for the bombings in Spain, In London the terrorist attacks in Indonesia?

I know that it's our world policy thart puts us as a big red target, but if it's only America that's so bad.. why are so many of the other countries getting attacked too?

olivier69 · 02-13-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Again not that I support this administration or it's supposed war on terror.. If what you say is true, what are the excuses for the bombings in Spain, In London the terrorist attacks in Indonesia?

I know that it's our world policy thart puts us as a big red target, but if it's only America that's so bad.. why are so many of the other countries getting attacked too?

Many countries get attacked, it's how you deal with it that states a fact: are you gonna use it as an excuse to create mischief and abuse? Or try to negotiate a truce. (Standard fox news indoctrination preventer: yes truces suck, and everyone thats bad has to be killed..)

crockett · 02-13-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by olivier69

Many countries get attacked, it's how you deal with it that states a fact: are you gonna use it as an excuse to create mischief and abuse?

Hey I'm totally against whats going on, and I can't stand Bush.. However I get sick of everyone blaming everything under the sun on Americans.

You can say our actions in Iraq were wrong I would agree, but I can tell you one thing and that's we would never have the BS that's going on in Europe with the Muslims here.

See like us or not, our world policy might suck, but at least here everyone has a place and can find somewhere to fit in. Can you say that about Europe?

baddog · 02-13-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by olivier69

Many countries get attacked, it's how you deal with it that states a fact: are you gonna use it as an excuse to create mischief and abuse? Or try to negotiate a truce. (Standard fox news indoctrination preventer: yes truces suck, and everyone thats bad has to be killed..)

Negotiate a truce? You are a fucking idiot.

Case closed.

czarina · 02-13-2006, 08:30 PM

The US is the UN, and they wont force them to do anything.

olivier69 · 02-13-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Hey I'm totally against whats going on, and I can't stand Bush.. However I get sick of everyone blaming everything under the sun on Americans.

I'm not blaming everything on all the americans, I'm sure many are just as disgusted, and don't agree with what their country is doing.

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Originally Posted by crockett

You can say our actions in Iraq were wrong I would agree, but I can tell you one thing and that's we would never have the BS that's going on in Europe with the Muslims here.

If you are referring to the cartoons? It's a conflict, one where people are getting a feel to where the borders are. It will be a point for europe to put a line in the sand and protect free speech. It's not the end of the world. And I never said europe is perfect also

But at least they aren't fucking things up beyond anything (for now).

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Originally Posted by crockett

See like us or not, our world policy might suck, but at least here everyone has a place and can find somewhere to fit in. Can you say that about Europe?

That's the problem, diversity has to be respected and not everything has to fit in the same closet. Multicultural societies can be very exciting. America is being a bully and an agressor and in my opinion its not gonna work but make matters much much worse..

FreeHugeMovies · 02-13-2006, 08:41 PM

Politics on GFY? Why even bother discussing?

LittleMack · 02-13-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

just close it down, amercian soliders are scum, they can get away with anything.

your kidding right?? our boys and girls are defending our freedom unless you are from another country...disagree with the admin but dont slam the soldiers

LittleMack · 02-13-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

It is great to see the US totally violating all human rights and the Geneva convention.

Yet another reason why a great part of the world hates America.

I dont give a shit if anyone hates America...the rest of the world cries to us when they are in need. How about the dictators violating human rights? no one says shit about that.

LittleMack · 02-13-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by olivier69

Many countries get attacked, it's how you deal with it that states a fact: are you gonna use it as an excuse to create mischief and abuse? Or try to negotiate a truce. (Standard fox news indoctrination preventer: yes truces suck, and everyone thats bad has to be killed..)

Fuck a truce, bowing down to folks never does shit...

baddog · 02-13-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by olivier69

That's the problem, diversity has to be respected and not everything has to fit in the same closet. Multicultural societies can be very exciting. America is being a bully and an agressor and in my opinion its not gonna work but make matters much much worse..

confirmation of my suspicions

baddog · 02-13-2006, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleMack

your kidding right?? our boys and girls are defending our freedom unless you are from another country...disagree with the admin but dont slam the soldiers

he's canadian

KRL · 02-13-2006, 09:04 PM

The UN is one of the most corrupt organizations in the world.

LittleMack · 02-13-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KRL

The UN is one of the most corrupt organizations in the world.

amen brother

LittleMack · 02-13-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

he's canadian

thats the thing all of these folks that say they hate USA beg us all the time to bail...be funny to see us shut off everything and watch the rest of the world collapse. Not that I want that but shut the people up that have no clue how the world is now.

LittleMack · 02-13-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Apparently so...

A UN report is expected to call on the United States to close its Guantanamo Bay detention centre in Cuba without delay and transfer the near-500 supposed "enemy combatants" held there to American soil to guarantee them access to fair trials.

A leaked draft of the document, written over 18 months by five independent experts in international law appointed by the UN Commission on Human Rights, says the inmates at Guantanamo are being denied their rights to mental and physical health to a degree that sometimes amounts to torture.

Read more:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...icle345252.ece

And if you are in America, the chances of pigs flying out of the sky has a better chance of the UN telling us what to do.

chadglni · 02-13-2006, 09:14 PM

A fucking truce?

Oh dear I've heard it all.

fetishblog · 02-13-2006, 09:18 PM

Fuck the UN

tony286 · 02-13-2006, 09:19 PM

80% of the people held since 911 are innocent, they come in looking for a guys brother he isnt there. They take who is there. Our rights are what make us a great country, you start cutting back on them for false safety .They win. Lets get something straight 911 could of been prevented, they wanted it to happen so they could move forward with their agenda.

Kimmykim · 02-13-2006, 09:19 PM

The US is coming dangerously close to creating a situation where other countries, even first world countries, will have no reason and no impetus to even attempt to work with the US.

Yes, I'm American, just as much as any of the other people that were born and raised here. But I don't agree with alot of the heavy handed decisions that are being made, especially in conflict with global organizations and assocations that we've long used as our own bully pulpit, such as the UN or the WTO.

Just because we're American doesn't mean we can do everything on our own. There are way more people in China alone than the US, I don't think we're going to like it if they become a first world nation.

tony286 · 02-13-2006, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleMack

I dont give a shit if anyone hates America...the rest of the world cries to us when they are in need. How about the dictators violating human rights? no one says shit about that.

We are supposed to be better than that.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin

tony286 · 02-13-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim

The US is coming dangerously close to creating a situation where other countries, even first world countries, will have no reason and no impetus to even attempt to work with the US.

Yes, I'm American, just as much as any of the other people that were born and raised here. But I don't agree with alot of the heavy handed decisions that are being made, especially in conflict with global organizations and assocations that we've long used as our own bully pulpit, such as the UN or the WTO.

Just because we're American doesn't mean we can do everything on our own. There are way more people in China alone than the US, I don't think we're going to like it if they become a first world nation.

Well said

Joe Citizen · 02-13-2006, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim

The US is coming dangerously close to creating a situation where other countries, even first world countries, will have no reason and no impetus to even attempt to work with the US.

Yes, I'm American, just as much as any of the other people that were born and raised here. But I don't agree with alot of the heavy handed decisions that are being made, especially in conflict with global organizations and assocations that we've long used as our own bully pulpit, such as the UN or the WTO.

Just because we're American doesn't mean we can do everything on our own. There are way more people in China alone than the US, I don't think we're going to like it if they become a first world nation.

Finally some sense from an American!

chadglni · 02-13-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Finally some sense from an American!

Hey there were a couple of gun violence threads you haven't spewed in yet. Might want to run a search real quick.

biftek · 02-13-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleMack

your kidding right?? our boys and girls are defending our freedom unless you are from another country...disagree with the admin but dont slam the soldiers

ah crap america freedoms was never at stake in the first place , so what you had a plane fly into a few buildings , build a bridge get over it

its that patriotic shit at work , as one great leader once said , tell the lie , enforce the lie , the lie soon becomes the truth

if anything , your freedom has changed from within your own government not from outside parties

Joe Citizen · 02-13-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

Hey there were a couple of gun violence threads you haven't spewed in yet. Might want to run a search real quick.

ahahahaha... nice comeback, loser.

ThunderBalls · 02-13-2006, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KRL

The UN is one of the most corrupt organizations in the world.

Maybe, but the Bush admin is THE MOST corrupt organization in the world.

LittleMack · 02-13-2006, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by biftek

ah crap america freedoms was never at stake in the first place , so what you had a plane fly into a few buildings , build a bridge get over it

its that patriotic shit at work , as one great leader once said , tell the lie , enforce the lie , the lie soon becomes the truth

if anything , your freedom has changed from within your own government not from outside parties

Nice,you say so what a couple of planes flew into some buildings and killed a few thousand....are you fucking kidding me???

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