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Old 04-20-2002, 07:28 AM   #1
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About GHR15

Everybody have to know what this product is .

This product is made with sheep's gland.

The anterior pituitary peptides are from glandular extracts.

This is potentialy dangerous.

Why ?

Because there is the mad sheep.

The mad sheep is the same thing as the mad cow but with sheep.

and Glands are the place the most infected.
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Old 04-20-2002, 07:31 AM   #2
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You're an idiot.
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Old 04-20-2002, 07:44 AM   #3
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ANy cases of someone getting mad sheep from this?

What if I was Mad Before I took it?

2 days taking it, I haven't noticed any thing yet,
my Wife did say I needed to shave the white curly hair off my back.... Humm.........

Mad Sheep I guess....
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Old 04-20-2002, 07:45 AM   #4
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i wouldn't go that far choda. its a natural reaction. i mean.. you'd have to assume that the sheep have been tested for these things.. but.. no one thought the meat was bad in europe either.. once their basic food staples.. the things they've been eating since childhood can't be trusted.. thats a very large hole that can't be filled.. it's only natural to be incredibly wary of a product that is made from something that has caused such fear and worry.. this stuff will sell fine in the US, but if europeans see whats inside it they will be less likely to buy it... not saying they won't.. just less likely... it's just a case of being burnt once.. the hand is still sore.. he's not an idiot... just overly cautious..
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Old 04-20-2002, 07:50 AM   #5
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ok.. clue me in .. what is GHR15 for?
I've never heard of it
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Old 04-20-2002, 07:52 AM   #6
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Old 04-20-2002, 05:43 PM   #7
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i wouldn't go that far choda. its a natural reaction. i mean.. you'd have to assume that the sheep have been tested for these things.. but.. no one thought the meat was bad in europe either.. once their basic food staples.. the things they've been eating since childhood can't be trusted.. thats a very large hole that can't be filled.. it's only natural to be incredibly wary of a product that is made from something that has caused such fear and worry.. this stuff will sell fine in the US, but if europeans see whats inside it they will be less likely to buy it... not saying they won't.. just less likely... it's just a case of being burnt once.. the hand is still sore.. he's not an idiot... just overly cautious..
Yeah, i fully understand. But it's completely obvious that this post was made in ignorance. The product has been around for 6 years, and no class acts as of yet! So that's gotta say something. I think anyone that blurts out whatever they're assuming without anything to back it up, is an idiot.
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Old 04-20-2002, 05:47 PM   #8
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yeah - i dig .. plus on these boards you also have to wonder if anyone sledging a product is a competitor undermining them... but i honestly don't think that is the case here... just saying i'd understand such a reaction
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Old 04-20-2002, 06:04 PM   #9
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since it is a higher ticket item, most of our customers are in a higher income bracket. Average age is 38-45 distributed evenly, Male and female.

Silicon valley, san francisco, LA, Texas, and Florida are our biggest markets.

Whats my point? Our customers are mainly well educated professionals. When I fist began selling it for example, my sister and family were skeptical, now my sisters whole law firm is practically on it.

Here in the US we put a strong emphasis on the safety of our products, especially anything that is injested into the body. So, as I said 12 times before, all bovine source ingredients, and any other animal based ingredient, is of medical grade.

I can promise you that taking our product is safer than eating a cheeseburger at mcdonalds, which often times, in one burger is several different cattle, from several different countries. There is a show on PBS called wheres the meat or something like that that can explain that more for you.
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Old 04-20-2002, 08:55 PM   #10
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Whats my point? Our customers are mainly well educated professionals. When I fist began selling it for example, my sister and family were skeptical, now my sisters whole law firm is practically on it.
Sounds like you've addicted your entire family and friends to something, nice.

Just like any other medicine pusher, the guy with the majic juice doesnt ride a horse anymore, he lurks the boards...

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Old 04-20-2002, 09:12 PM   #11
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Puremeds:

Is it FDA approved?
Who is the manufacturer?
What are the ingredients?
What I read on your website is nothing different to cheaper bodybuilding supplements that the likes of Weider offer.
Do you have any links/references to medical data (ie: AMA journals, research facility reports) regarding research into this?
How do you define 'medical grade' offal?
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Old 04-20-2002, 09:40 PM   #12
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Old 04-20-2002, 09:41 PM   #13
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Damiano is full of bullshit
He pulled that statement straight from his ass
Who do you work for Damiano? Perhaps you are selling a similar product ?
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Old 04-21-2002, 01:10 AM   #14
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I am a webmaster promoting Traffic cash gold sites on big tgps.

I don't sell anything similar.

The statment "have been around for 6 years now" is false.

"Glandular extracts" means animals must be killed in order to make the product.

It's not a real pharmaceutical grade product like dhea.

Eating the meat of sheep or bovins is not the same as eating the animals glands !

And

33 % of our surfers are under 18.

33 % are between 18 and 25 years old.
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Old 04-21-2002, 10:04 AM   #15
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Hypothalmus: PUReGHR15 is fortified with a purified powder form of the hypothalamus gland. The manufacturer tested this additive for months before adding this ingredient to the production line of PUReGHR15. The results of this test were an even increase in the HGH levels of those tested, with no side effects reported. Again, this is an all-natural ingredient that derives from bovine and is similar in nature to the Anterior Pituitary Peptides.

Phytosterol Complex*, (Beta Sitosterol, Campesterol, Stigmasterol): These Sterols and Sterolins are phytonutrients and are partly responsible for the healing and protective effects of plants. They are present in all plants (fruits and vegetables). However, in nature, they are bound to the fibers of the plant and are difficult to absorb from simple ingestion of the plant. Modern food refining and freezing or boiling of vegetables destroy sterols and sterolins. This, in addition to the fact that our modern diet is low in fruits and vegetables, contributes to our need to supplement them.

Sterols have been shown to reduce prostate problems in men. (Klippel KF; beta-sitosterol (phytosterol) and the treatment of benign prostatic hyperplasia; British Journal of Urology v 90 (3), pp 427-32, Sept 1997).

Plant Sterols compete for absorption with animal sterols (e.g. cholesterol), resulting in lower cholesterol absorption. (Miettinen TA et al; Regulation of cholesterol metabolism by dietary plant sterols; Curr Opin Lipidol, 1999 Feb, 10:1, 9-14)

Furthermore, there is evidence that some plant sterols, such as Campesterol, are converted into stanols by the body. Studies at the University of Helsinki showed that campestanol (a stanol) can actively lower cholesterol by 15% (Gyling H et al, Cholesterol reduction by different plant stanol mixtures and with variable fat intake; Metabolism, 1999 May, 48:5, 575-80).

Sterols and Sterolins have also been shown to stimulate T-cell proliferation. (Liebenberg, R.W.; Albrecht; Beta-sitosterol and beta-sitosterol glucoside stimulate human peripheral blood lymphocyte proliferation. International Journal of Immunopharmacology, vol. 18, no. 12, pp. 693-700, Dec. 1996.) The amazing aspect of this stimulation, however, is that Sterols and sterolins seem to activate AND 'sensitize' the immune system.

L Arginine: An essential amino acid (meaning that the body cannot create amino acid on its own but must get it from the foods we eat).

Growth Hormone Effects: Arginine causes the secretion of growth hormone. In fact, a 15 to 30 gram intravenous infusion of arginine is used as a standard endocrinological test to provoke the pituitary into releasing growth hormone.

A study at the University of Turin, Italy, showed that even though people in their seventies had lower response than either children or young adults to arginine, the nutrient still boosted their blood levels of HGH to triple the average for their age group.

Positive claims for arginine include increasing fat burning and building muscle tissue probably through the stimulation of growth hormone, increasing the weight and activity of the thymus gland, boosting immunity, fighting cancer, promoting healing of bums and other wounds, protecting the liver and detoxifying harmful substances, and enhancing male fertility (almost all of which are enhanced by CH). It also restores sexual function in impotent men. In a 1994 study by Drs. A.W. Zorgniotti and E.E Lizza of the department of urology/surgery at New York University School of Medicine, six of fifteen men who took 2,800 milligrams of arginine a day for two weeks had renewed sexual performance, specifically improved erection, yet none of the men on the placebo did. The researchers believe that arginine worked because it is a precursor of nitric oxide, which plays a key role in initiating and maintaining an erection.

L-Lysine: An essential amino acid that affects bone formation, height, and genital function.

Effects on HGH: A 1981 study by Italian researcher A. Isidori, M.D., and his associates at the University of Rome found that the combination of 1,200 milligrams of lysine and 1200 milligrams of arginine pyoglutamate in fifteen male volunteers between the ages of fifteen and twenty was ten times more effective than taking arginine alone.

L Glutamine: The most abundant amino acid in the body. It is a conditionally essential amino acid, meaning that the body may not be able to synthesize all it needs when it is under physical stress.


Effects on HGH: Glutamine is the latest amino acid to generate excitement as a HGH-releaser thanks to a 1995 study by Thomas C. Welboume of Louisiana State University College of Medicine in Shreveport. Welbourne showed that a surprisingly small oral dose of about 2 grams of glutamine raised growth hormone levels more than four times over that of a placebo. Even more exciting, age did not diminish the response at least in this small study of volunteers, who ranged from thirty-two to sixty-four years.

L Glycine: A nonessential amino acid.

Effects on HGH: Two studies found that this amino acid increased HGH in the serum. In one, 6.75 grams at bedtime caused an three-fold increase, while a Japanese research team showed that 30 grams raised HGH levels ten times over baseline in patients who had gastric surgery. An oral dose of 250 milligrams in normal volunteers also showed a significant, but less pronounced, rise in HGH. They conclude that "the facts demonstrated that glycine is one of the stimulatory agents inducing the pituitary gland to secrete HGH." Glycine has also been found useful in increasing output in exercise workouts.

L Pyroglutamate: An amino acid naturally found in vegetables, fruits, dairy products, and meat. It is also normally present in large amounts in the human brain, cerebrospinal fluid, and blood.

Effects on HGH: Pyroglutamate has also been shown to be effective in alcohol-induced memory deficits, and more recently, in people affected with multi-infarct dementia. In these patients, the administration of pyroglutamate brought about a significant increase of attention and an improvement on psychological tests investigating short-term retrieval, long-term retrieval, and long-term storage of memory. A statistically significant improvement was observed also in the consolidation of memory.

GABA (Gamma-aminobutyric acid): A supplement designed to help decrease body fat levels and increase lean muscle tissue by stimulating the brain to secrete increased amounts of Human Growth Hormone (HGH). GABA was discovered in 1970, as a synthetic compound capable of passing the blood-brain barrier and useful as an anterior pituitary stimulant. Later studies demonstrated GABA to be a potent neurotransmitter and to be an effective potentiator of secretions of Growth Hormone in athletes.

Effects on Growth Hormone: GABA has been clinically proven to help the pituitary gland to secrete Human Growth Hormone in athletes.

A second important role GABA plays for athletes can be seen in its analgesic producing effects. Athletes training and competing using GABA can expect to experience less discomfort and generally exhibit a higher threshold of pain tolerance.

In addition to its beneficial effects on GH, GABA has also been demonstrated to promote more restful sleep, to act as a powerful natural analgesic through its stimulation of the brain's release of endorphins and help to regulate blood pressure.
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Old 04-21-2002, 10:08 PM   #16
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I wasn't concerned about these guys until this guy started posting all of these outdated supplements that most people in the fitness/bodybuilding world haven't used in a decade! Most of these ingredients have had little to no effect on HGH levels.

I am a bodybuilder, I have been for the past 15 years. This guy is selling a couple of decent supplements as well as general BS fillers.

What pissed me off is when he tries to sell you guys on L-Argnine by saying

"Growth Hormone Effects: Arginine causes the secretion of growth hormone. In fact, a 15 to 30 gram intravenous infusion of arginine is used as a standard endocrinological test to provoke the pituitary into releasing growth hormone. "

INTRAVENOUS. Unless this product comes with a needle that doesn't matter. L-Glycine is a very small factor in a larger picture.

Then he goes to L-Glycine;

"Effects on HGH: Two studies found that this amino acid increased HGH in the serum. In one, 6.75 grams at bedtime caused an three-fold increase, while a Japanese research team showed that 30 grams raised HGH levels ten times over baseline in patients who had GASTRIC SURGERY . An oral dose of 250 milligrams in normal volunteers also showed a significant, but less pronounced, rise in HGH. They conclude that "the facts demonstrated that glycine is one of the stimulatory agents inducing the pituitary gland to secrete HGH."

Anyone here have their gut cut open recently? If so order up a bottle now!!!

Hypothalmus gland!?! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...
That has been proven in the fitness world to be a BS filler that sounds really good to people who don't know any better! Only your glands can provide the bulding blocks to HGH. Eating a cow's Hypothalamus gland for HGH production is like eating Mike W's fingers in hopes of being able to make better websites yourself.

The ingredient L-Glutimine is a hot supplement right now but not for the same reason he is saying. Check out http://www.muscleandfitness.com/nutr...upp/p/2770.jsp

I could go on further but if anyone has their own doubts just go to where people take this kinda stuff for a living... The Muscle-Mag message board! They are as ruthless as GFY'rs when it comes to their nutrition discussions (and they also use the same message board proggie) Click here to go directly to the search section.

Pure Meds stop trying to Bullshit The Real Pro-Bullshitters! Your product will work on old people and people who are extremely out of shape. But so would a few more pieces of fruit and a protein drink!

If your bottles convert to sales that's great, we will sell it regardless of if it is peat moss in the bottles as long as it doesn't harm anyone. No one here appreciates being bullshitted. Save that shit for the viagra message boards where elderly people on America Online hang out.
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Old 04-21-2002, 10:12 PM   #17
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i dont know about any of this stupid ass rat poison pussy boy shit that yall are talking about but damnit


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all all and bow the fuck down to the "OaK"
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