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NoWhErE 02-12-2006 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
http://www.vasst.com/sony/default.aspx more vegas info then you can ask for and Spot hangs on alot of those boards he is real cool and he is the high guru of vegas.


Thanx bro, I hadn't noticed he had posted! lol

poor guy must have felt overlooked :(

NoWhErE 02-12-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by I LOVE Little Brown Asses
I have been experimenting with compression software and settings. cleaner, sorenson, final cut compressor. Looking for the highest image quality possible with the smallest file size (aren't we all?)

Have you found any optimal settings for bit rates, key frames, and audio sampling rates for large (640X480) and small (320X240) clips? any opinions on the compression software listed above?

Thanks for your knowledge.



Lol now you're asking for some trade secrets there my friend :P

BUT, when it comes to compression, what you're realling looking at is : How many surfers do you think will watch your video and how much Bandwidth do you want to spend on the video?

Cause, quite honestly, if you don't have a BD limit, friggin' pump up the resolution! lol

tony286 02-12-2006 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE
Thanx bro, I hadn't noticed he had posted! lol

poor guy must have felt overlooked :(

Your very welcome :)

NoWhErE 02-12-2006 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I LOVE Little Brown Asses
I have been experimenting with compression software and settings. cleaner, sorenson, final cut compressor. Looking for the highest image quality possible with the smallest file size (aren't we all?)

Have you found any optimal settings for bit rates, key frames, and audio sampling rates for large (640X480) and small (320X240) clips? any opinions on the compression software listed above?

Thanks for your knowledge.



Lol now you're asking for some trade secrets there my friend :P

BUT, when it comes to compression, what you're realling looking at is : How many surfers do you think will watch your video and how much Bandwidth do you want to spend on the video?

Cause, quite honestly, if you don't have a BD limit, friggin' pump up the resolution! lol




But in my experience, when working with say, a 640x480 trailer that lasts about a minute, you want the trailer to be about 6-7 megs tops.... (thats what most of my customers prefer).

Depending on your content (if its mostly black video, when you compress it, your file will be ultra small for example), you can compress it at a bitrate of 650 to 800 to get a good file size without too much of a sacrifice in quality.

Anything over a 1000 kbps is overkill for your bandwidth. The quality will look great, but the improvement in image quality over a 1000 kpbs is barely noticeable.




When it comes to 320x240, well, logically you're exporting for the slow surfers right? so you want a small size file. I usually pump them out at 1.5 to 2mb per 1 minute trailers. I prefer about 300 kpbs for the 320x240 format. It gives you a decent quality image, without sacrificing too much in quality.



and REMEMBER, 80% of a viewing experience is AUDIO. So don't be cheap on your audio quality. Keep the 44khz!! it might increase your file size by 100kb, but goddamn its worth not having to hear distracting audio distortions!



Well, hope that helped out

NoWhErE 02-12-2006 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
Your very welcome :)



Much abliged, feel free to chip in anytime or to ask any questions of your own.


Oh, and I hear you're quite good yourself, got a link to your samples?

Morgan 02-12-2006 12:42 PM

what's the difference between wm7, wm8 and wm9 codecs?

wm9 is currently the best/standard to use right?

Morgan 02-12-2006 12:45 PM

which is more normal:

400x304

or

400x300

?

JeanClaude VanDamme 02-12-2006 12:49 PM

Here's my question :

How do you add a logo (either simple text or a gif/png file) to a .wmv video ?
I want to watermark some vids at the bottom right...

Thanks for your help !

NoWhErE 02-12-2006 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan
what's the difference between wm7, wm8 and wm9 codecs?

wm9 is currently the best/standard to use right?



Well, wmv9 is the LATEST codec to come out, but not the BEST depending on the situation you're up against.

To explain the difference between the 2 is a bit long, BUT, go to http://www.adobe.com/products/dvcoll...ion_Primer.pdf and skip to the WINDOWS ENCODING MODES section to get a detailed explanation and difference between the different formats :)


Plus you get all sorts of usefull information on those options you never knew you could use.

Sorry if I'm not explaining the thing myself, but, like I said, its a freaking long topic :)


enjoy

NoWhErE 02-12-2006 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan
which is more normal:

400x304

or

400x300

?

Logically it would be 400x300 since you have the exact resolutions for your 4:3 ratio, but most of the time your compositing software or NLE (Non Linear Editing) system will prefer to use 400x304 for various reasons.

1 - Sometimes its encoding algorythm doesn't allow for perfectly square pixels
2 - Sometimes the algorythm needs a bit of a buffer zone
3 - Most of the time, 400x304 IS what you're system is running at, but settings will show 400x300 so that the user doesn't get confused.

Yet again, its a long explanation (you're good at asking questions that require alot of background on the science of digital compositing), lol, but if you want to learn more about it, I can recommend you a few good books.

3M TA3 02-12-2006 01:14 PM

50 video editors going to NoWhErE

NoWhErE 02-12-2006 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeanClaude VanDamme
Here's my question :

How do you add a logo (either simple text or a gif/png file) to a .wmv video ?
I want to watermark some vids at the bottom right...

Thanks for your help !



Well, I gotta to head out soon, so I'll give this one a quick reply.



there are MANY ways of doing this and MANY programs that can do it for you.


BUT, I will give you a hint, if your vids are ALREADY in WMV format, you will need to uncompress them to raw AVIs. SO that way, when you re-encode them, you won't loose much quality as compared to recompressing another WMV.


For simple watermarking, I'd recommend http://www.videocharge.com

whats great about the program is that, not only can you watermark, but its also an idiot proof program for cutting up your vids, making thumbnails, converting your vids, etc.


If you have any other questions, I'll be back in a few hours!

FelixFlow 02-12-2006 02:05 PM

recommended hardware setups for rendering HD video?

is is true that RAM is not much of a factor in rendering speed, but CPU power is??

NoWhErE 02-12-2006 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FelixFlow
recommended hardware setups for rendering HD video?

is is true that RAM is not much of a factor in rendering speed, but CPU power is??



When it comes to rendering, the formula is VERY simple... the more RAM and CPU power you have, the better!


And as for RAM, it depends on what you're rendering... if its simple video, ya... RAM doesn't affect it MUCH, but if its graphical work, then yes, RAM matters alot.



But, its pretty simple, when you're rendering, get the most RAM and CPU power you can use. And read up on your programs capabilities, some will allow Dual core processing, some won't.

Some have a RAM usage limit,etc.

vidvicious 02-12-2006 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sinclair
I am shooting mini-dv (mostly panasonic pro tapes) with a Canon XL1s. Been using a cheap DV cam as a deck and looking to upgrade.

Thanks for the tip with Sony, I was considering going to a Sony HD in the near future.

Sinclair


A Sony DSr 11 would do you good and not break the bank

vidvicious 02-12-2006 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeBank_Adam
I use a Sony VX-2000. So, you're suggesting that I use only Sony DV tapes to record on? I have been using JVC tapes up to now... would switching tapes hurt anything? I've heard that Sony uses a wet lubricant for their tapes (vs. dry for JVC) and that heads can get messed up if you switch. Any truth to that?


I could help ya on this one ... it really makes no difference to your camera what Tape you use ... Tape stock is a personal choice ... As a DOP in Broadcast I have (thru the years) formulated a Choice of tape based on Construction and Material use by Various companies.

In My humble opinion Fuji Film is the bast tape stock when it comes to analog and digital tape (Sans Memory) .. fuji is know for very abrassive tape .. While sony is know for the Oppisite .. and Maxelle/quantum tends to flake ...

Videotape be it analog or Digital is made of Silver composites .. When the tape travels thru the tape transport it lies on a slight angle against the Head drums .. On these drums there will be 4 to 5 Play heads ... Microscopic needles scrap the video tape when reading or recording .. Hense the reason for the Abrasiveness of the videotape .. the abrasivness will determine the amount tape/silver particals that will be moving around in the transport or remaining on the tape.

My MINIDV videotape ratings

1. Fuji
2. Panasonic (great tape if you use a EDL)
3. Maxelle
4.JVC
5. BASF
6. Sony

NoWhErE 02-12-2006 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidvicious
I could help ya on this one ... it really makes no difference to your camera what Tape you use ... Tape stock is a personal choice ... As a DOP in Broadcast I have (thru the years) formulated a Choice of tape based on Construction and Material use by Various companies.

In My humble opinion Fuji Film is the bast tape stock when it comes to analog and digital tape (Sans Memory) .. fuji is know for very abrassive tape .. While sony is know for the Oppisite .. and Maxelle/quantum tends to flake ...

Videotape be it analog or Digital is made of Silver composites .. When the tape travels thru the tape transport it lies on a slight angle against the Head drums .. On these drums there will be 4 to 5 Play heads ... Microscopic needles scrap the video tape when reading or recording .. Hense the reason for the Abrasiveness of the videotape .. the abrasivness will determine the amount tape/silver particals that will be moving around in the transport or remaining on the tape.

My MINIDV videotape ratings

1. Fuji
2. Panasonic (great tape if you use a EDL)
3. Maxelle
4.JVC
5. BASF
6. Sony




Good input from a camera pro!

Thanx mate!

I LOVE Little Brown Asses 02-13-2006 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE
Depending on your content (if its mostly black video, when you compress it, your file will be ultra small for example), you can compress it at a bitrate of 650 to 800 to get a good file size without too much of a sacrifice in quality.

Anything over a 1000 kbps is overkill for your bandwidth. The quality will look great, but the improvement in image quality over a 1000 kpbs is barely noticeable.
Well, hope that helped out

Ferris Bueller, you're my hero :)

thanks for your input! :thumbsup

The Dawg 02-13-2006 08:28 AM

Using Premiere whats the best filter/plugin to use to blur faces on moving video?

BuggyG 02-13-2006 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE
Not really, both my work stations are rendering until tomorrow evening. And I don't feel like coding, soooooo... I'm boarding :thumbsup

ohhhhhh.. hate it when that happens
bored out of my mind.. maybe explains why I get on GFY a lot some times :thumbsup

NoWhErE 02-13-2006 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dawg
Using Premiere whats the best filter/plugin to use to blur faces on moving video?



Honestly, if you're going to do something like that, I would learn the Basics of After Effects, otherwise it will be a pain in the ass to do in Premiere... as for After Effects, it will only take you about 5 minutes :thumbsup



Simple guide line to doing it in After Effects:

Step 1 - Add an adjustment layer on top of the video

Step 2 - With the adjustment layer, cut out a mask over the face and make sure to feather it out.

Step 3 - Blur the adjument layer

Step 4 - Animate the mask shape properties over the timeline to have the blur follow the face

Step 5 - Render it out! Easy as pie!

NoWhErE 02-13-2006 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I LOVE Little Brown Asses
Ferris Bueller, you're my hero :)

thanks for your input! :thumbsup




No problem bro! :thumbsup :thumbsup

NoWhErE 02-13-2006 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuggyG
ohhhhhh.. hate it when that happens
bored out of my mind.. maybe explains why I get on GFY a lot some times :thumbsup



Hehe it happens more often than I'd like to admit :P

NoWhErE 02-13-2006 06:58 PM

Bump back up for those that have questions

The Dawg 02-13-2006 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE
Honestly, if you're going to do something like that, I would learn the Basics of After Effects, otherwise it will be a pain in the ass to do in Premiere... as for After Effects, it will only take you about 5 minutes :thumbsup



Simple guide line to doing it in After Effects:

Step 1 - Add an adjustment layer on top of the video

Step 2 - With the adjustment layer, cut out a mask over the face and make sure to feather it out.

Step 3 - Blur the adjument layer

Thanks I will try it out. :thumbsup

Step 4 - Animate the mask shape properties over the timeline to have the blur follow the face

Step 5 - Render it out! Easy as pie!

Thanks I'll try that out. :thumbsup

NoWhErE 02-14-2006 09:30 AM

Alright, 2 more bumps until I let this thread die out, unless people start asking for more!

NoWhErE 02-14-2006 10:34 PM

Last Bump... then I let this baby die :(

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