To all the P2PAds.com skeptics... - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

ColBigBalls · 02-07-2006, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Too much work.

Look, the p2pads team is already doing all the work anyway, why not do it with their own sponsors??

You?re assuming they don?t.

Brad Gosse · 02-07-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Too much work.

Look, the p2pads team is already doing all the work anyway, why not do it with their own sponsors??

You could ask Google the same questions about adwords.

We sell traffic to blogs, tgp's landing pages, AVS sites, free sites, paysites and more. Most of these clients bring in revenue otherwise not realized by affiliate programs.

chadglni · 02-07-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wm_cibi

our P2PADS campaign:

AAC:

AFF:

btw campaign cost us $5k
btw2 campaign has not ended yet..

That about sums up this thread.

Dirty F · 02-07-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wm_cibi

our P2PADS campaign:

AAC:

AFF:

btw campaign cost us $5k
btw2 campaign has not ended yet..

How much longer is it gonna run?

You think you will make your money back?

chadglni · 02-07-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ColBigBalls

You?re assuming they don?t.

Bullshit. If it were THAT good and they are doing all the work anyhow they would take every available click and you wouldn't see so much as a hit from the 50th exit in a chain. Nice sig.

Sosa · 02-07-2006, 02:01 PM

1 person does good, 1 person does bad. Just depends on the person and what program they are sending the traffic too. I can't take the risk of trying it right now like I would like too but possibly in the future.

Dirty F · 02-07-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ColBigBalls

You?re assuming they don?t.

They dont, look at post 1.

Maybe partly, but why even partly is its this profitable?

Wiredguy mentioned less risk. Well of all people the p2pads guys must know what converts and what not?

Dirty F · 02-07-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

Bullshit. If it were THAT good and they are doing all the work anyhow they would take every available click and you wouldn't see so much as a hit from the 50th exit in a chain. Nice sig.

Thats what im saying.

Brad Gosse · 02-07-2006, 02:03 PM

wm_cibi have you tried to work with us on your conversions?

I would like to help you make that campaign work for you. Give us the opportunity now before your campaign ends to possibly help you with your landing pages and possibly extend your campaign.

BTW you only show 2 stats pages where is the 3rd url going?

whoisnext · 02-07-2006, 02:07 PM

ROI=Return on Investment?

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Originally Posted by brand0n

So what kinda ROI did this produce?

jjjay · 02-07-2006, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by whoisnext

ROI=Return on Investment?

wow

8char

GTS Mark · 02-07-2006, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wm_cibi

our P2PADS campaign:

AAC:

AFF:

btw campaign cost us $5k
btw2 campaign has not ended yet..

Please repost this in 6 weeks from now. TRUST ME

Both the sponsors you are using take time to turn the free surfer into the full surfer. You will start seeing free signups turn into paid and then the money will start rolling in.

Have patience Obie One

DH

Dirty F · 02-07-2006, 02:17 PM

True true, a lot of dating sponsors convert days to even months after the free signups.

Dirty F · 02-07-2006, 02:17 PM

With datinggold im still get sales from people who signed up AGES ago.

TheSenator · 02-07-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDER

Please repost this in 6 weeks from now. TRUST ME

Both the sponsors you are using take time to turn the free surfer into the full surfer. You will start seeing free signups turn into paid and then the money will start rolling in.

Have patience Obie One

DH

It is true it takes longer for a free member to convert but I just notice his free sign-ups are kinda weak.

My fart(from animal retard traffic) converts better to free sign-ups.

Claire Gosse · 02-07-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDER

Please repost this in 6 weeks from now. TRUST ME

Both the sponsors you are using take time to turn the free surfer into the full surfer. You will start seeing free signups turn into paid and then the money will start rolling in.

Have patience Obie One

DH

DH is right. Brad and I have run our own P2P campaigns that ended over a year ago and we still get checks from sponsors.

Blizzard · 02-07-2006, 05:07 PM

Something killed this thread.

uno · 02-07-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

Thanks CT. I am so glad you had a good experience with our traffic. You are a great customer and we appreciate your continued business!

What are your rates Brad?

jay23 · 02-07-2006, 05:29 PM

Guys

The first poster had about 1.2 M page views, assuming he has spent 10K, thats about 8$ CPM for page views. The good thing with P2P is your content is going to stay on the system so you will get more traffic. So even if they reach 2 M Page views, thats 5$ CPM which is very very good.

I have seen people blame the traffic source because the contnet does not convert, have you ever looked at the site or galary or did you send traffic to some targeted sites (Guy downlaods a gay clip on P2P site and the traffic goes to straight site)

I do the exact same thing that P2PAds guys do for main stream and charge a very large CPM rate, no one complains !!.

Jay

Just_Dave · 02-07-2006, 05:35 PM

the p2p crew are great people

RobbieRye · 02-07-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_Dave

the p2p crew are great people

That's nice of you Dave, thanks!

Brad Gosse · 02-07-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jay23

Guys

The first poster had about 1.2 M page views, assuming he has spent 10K, thats about 8$ CPM for page views. The good thing with P2P is your content is going to stay on the system so you will get more traffic. So even if they reach 2 M Page views, thats 5$ CPM which is very very good.

I have seen people blame the traffic source because the contnet does not convert, have you ever looked at the site or galary or did you send traffic to some targeted sites (Guy downlaods a gay clip on P2P site and the traffic goes to straight site)

I do the exact same thing that P2PAds guys do for main stream and charge a very large CPM rate, no one complains !!.

Jay

Thanks for breaking it down Jay. I know you know what's up.

TinyTim · 02-07-2006, 09:17 PM

I have done a lot of P2P campaigns, tried various sponsors with my own networks. I know one thing, it's ok if you can do it yourself for free ( I generate my own P2P traffic) but I wouldn't pay for it at all. Especially the prices being charged, might as well throw your money out the window

Why · 02-07-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

You know how sometimes you want to post something, but you should really hold your tongue?

I have those moments a lot.

your back ? <3

Dirty F · 02-08-2006, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

Most of these clients bring in revenue otherwise not realized by affiliate programs.

Uhm...explain that to me.

You sell a package for 10k and the client makes 15k with it by pushing a sponsor. If you wouldve done it yourself (which you did anyway, just not your referral link) you wouldve made 5k more.

No, give me something better because the answer above is pure bs.

It think its funny that nobody, so far, answered my question.

Dirty F · 02-08-2006, 07:33 AM

This traffic is so good, so profitable, does so well with dating sponsors etc. Hey lets give it away and lose money.

Yeah that makes so much sense.

TinyTim · 02-08-2006, 08:13 AM

Anyone with experience with p2p traffic knows that it is next to impossible to make money with the prices p2pads are charging. Well, at least the people running p2pads are making money.

CT · 02-08-2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TinyTim

Anyone with experience with p2p traffic knows that it is next to impossible to make money with the prices p2pads are charging. Well, at least the people running p2pads are making money.

Maybe you missed the part where I said I have a 150% return on my initial investment... and growing

Veterans Day · 02-08-2006, 11:19 AM

hilarious

Brad Gosse · 02-08-2006, 11:57 AM

Why does Google sell their ad space instead of joining affiliate programs?

What am I missing here? Traffic is a commodity online and people are willing to pay for it. Why not sell it instead of trying to figure out which sponsor to send it to?

Pornwolf · 02-08-2006, 11:57 AM

It's never safe to go in the water here on GFY.

Dirty F · 02-08-2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

Why does Google sell their ad space instead of joining affiliate programs?

What am I missing here? Traffic is a commodity online and people are willing to pay for it. Why not sell it instead of trying to figure out which sponsor to send it to?

Youre missing an important point which i mentioned 2 times already. You are doing the campaings anyway...youre doing all the work anyway...why not add your on referral code to it and make 15k instead of 10k if the traffic is this good.

chowda · 02-08-2006, 12:14 PM

alot of hate, but there is no money there

PLEASE STOP READING THIS THREAD, P2P MAKES NO MONEY AND YOU SHOULD NOT DO P2P

P2P WILL MAKE U SAD BECAUSE U WILL MAKE NO MONEY

in other notes, u guys have sure good keywords.

woj · 02-08-2006, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

Youre missing an important point which i mentioned 2 times already. You are doing the campaings anyway...youre doing all the work anyway...why not add your on referral code to it and make 15k instead of 10k if the traffic is this good.

There is no need to push them dude, they won't admit it. They are smart, and they know damn well that simply sending that traffic to a dating sponsor will not make them more money than they are already charging for the campaigns.

CT · 02-08-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chowda

alot of hate, but there is no money there

PLEASE STOP READING THIS THREAD, P2P MAKES NO MONEY AND YOU SHOULD NOT DO P2P

P2P WILL MAKE U SAD BECAUSE U WILL MAKE NO MONEY

in other notes, u guys have sure good keywords.

In other words... you are making your money on p2p and don't want any competition.

CT · 02-08-2006, 12:25 PM

xNetworx · 02-08-2006, 12:26 PM

From what I have read on GFY, It seems to me that CT is one of the only success stories with this service.

slapass · 02-08-2006, 12:27 PM

If you are buying traffic you have to have a better mouse trap. Reading on the board how well something does and just slamming traffic to the home page of your favorite sponsor is not a way to great wealth.. unless you count DH's cash.

woj · 02-08-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jay23

...thats 5$ CPM which is very very good.

$5 CPM for popup untargeted freeloader traffic is "very very good"?

chowda · 02-08-2006, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CT

In other words... you are making your money on p2p and don't want any competition.

well im getting into it, but traffic is traffic. I dont think its worth justifyin to haters if its a good product or not.. coz they will hate hate hate.

its p2pads job to sell their service :D and im sure they didnt ask u to put it up on gfy if it worked or not..

im glad it worked out for you. but please, keep things that work a secret, coz you'll get the dumbest questions out here.

Dirty F · 02-08-2006, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

$5 CPM for popup untargeted freeloader traffic is "very very good"?

Yeah thats crazy...

Brad Gosse · 02-08-2006, 12:48 PM

hey WOJ that is targeted traffic on the CPM deal BTW. ;)

Thanks for hating just the same. Your brand of hateraide is especially tasty

woj · 02-08-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

hey WOJ that is targeted traffic on the CPM deal BTW. ;)

Thanks for hating just the same. Your brand of hateraide is especially tasty

There is no hate here, we are all just discussing how much this traffic is really worth...

Brad Gosse · 02-08-2006, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

There is no hate here, we are all just discussing how much this traffic is really worth...

And what is it worth to you?

Snake Doctor · 02-08-2006, 12:52 PM

Congrats to the winners

Kevsh · 02-08-2006, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

It think its funny that nobody, so far, answered my question.

You've been answered. You just ignored it or didn't care to respond.
Instead of posting repeatedly in here hating on a program you don't know, why don't you try it out or talk directly to someone who has?

Then you can hate away all you want ... but be able to back it up with proof instead of pointless rhetorical questions

Dirty F · 02-08-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

You've been answered. You just ignored it or didn't care to respond.
Instead of posting repeatedly in here hating on a program you don't know, why don't you try it out or talk directly to someone who has?

Then you can hate away all you want ... but be able to back it up with proof instead of pointless rhetorical questions

I have not been anwered...unless you call "why does google sell traffic" an answer....i dont...it something completely different.

He cant answer me...

Brad Gosse · 02-08-2006, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

I have not been anwered...unless you call "why does google sell traffic" an answer....i dont...it something completely different.

He cant answer me...

Franck,

Your logic dictates that nobody should be selling traffic unless it is shitty because they could just convert it all themselves.

Many big companies from Yahoo to The Hun charge for advertising. Does that mean the traffic is poor because they don't convert it all themselves?

NO

What it means is many companies prefer to charge a fixed rate for their inventory instead of trying to figure out who to send it to all the time. So do we.

Dirty F · 02-08-2006, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

Franck,

Your logic dictates that nobody should be selling traffic unless it is shitty because they could just convert it all themselves.

Many big companies from Yahoo to The Hun charge for advertising. Does that mean the traffic is poor because they don't convert it all themselves?

NO

What it means is many companies prefer to charge a fixed rate for their inventory instead of trying to figure out who to send it to all the time. So do we.

You still dont know where to send the traffic? What you advise your clients? I thought by now you would know what work with this amazing traffic..

And stop comparing to yahoo and the hun, completely, totally different.

So lets sum up your anwer: You dont know where to send your traffic so you sell it to other people. Instead of doing a few tests and make 5k more on a 10k package (5000 dollars!!) you prefer to get 10k.
What you advise your clients is total bs since you have no idea what converts and what not.

Hmm nice.

BobG · 02-08-2006, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RobbieRye

We certainly won't be overexposing our traffic source (read: network) woj. I hear what you're saying, but there are a lot of users on the P2P networks right now.

The trick really is knowing how to make that traffic convert. It's a bit different the regular web traffic. If you're willing to work with the traffic and figure out how it's different - it will work very well. However, if you're not willing to spend the time to work with it, it simply won't.

So, the secret isn't that P2P Ads has this product, the secret is really only your own experience and how to make it work.

Well put Rob. I didn't put too much time into tweaking my campaign, I just threw it up and let it ride. It's been over for about 3 months and its still averaging 3 sales per day and plenty of rebills. Hindsight being 20/20, I can now think of about a million things that I could have done to improve on my results. The traffic is exciting though. I would be interested in giving it another go with some new strategies specific to maximizing the potential of this type of traffic.

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Brad Gosse Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Carpal Tunnel Posts: 2,616	wm_cibi have you tried to work with us on your conversions? I would like to help you make that campaign work for you. Give us the opportunity now before your campaign ends to possibly help you with your landing pages and possibly extend your campaign. BTW you only show 2 stats pages where is the 3rd url going? __________________ Free Clipart

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Brad Gosse Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Carpal Tunnel Posts: 2,616	Why does Google sell their ad space instead of joining affiliate programs? What am I missing here? Traffic is a commodity online and people are willing to pay for it. Why not sell it instead of trying to figure out which sponsor to send it to? __________________ Free Clipart

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chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	alot of hate, but there is no money there PLEASE STOP READING THIS THREAD, P2P MAKES NO MONEY AND YOU SHOULD NOT DO P2P P2P WILL MAKE U SAD BECAUSE U WILL MAKE NO MONEY in other notes, u guys have sure good keywords. __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	1 person does good, 1 person does bad. Just depends on the person and what program they are sending the traffic too. I can't take the risk of trying it right now like I would like too but possibly in the future.

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	True true, a lot of dating sponsors convert days to even months after the free signups.

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02-07-2006, 05:29 PM	#69
jay23 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,444	Guys The first poster had about 1.2 M page views, assuming he has spent 10K, thats about 8$ CPM for page views. The good thing with P2P is your content is going to stay on the system so you will get more traffic. So even if they reach 2 M Page views, thats 5$ CPM which is very very good. I have seen people blame the traffic source because the contnet does not convert, have you ever looked at the site or galary or did you send traffic to some targeted sites (Guy downlaods a gay clip on P2P site and the traffic goes to straight site) I do the exact same thing that P2PAds guys do for main stream and charge a very large CPM rate, no one complains !!. Jay

02-07-2006, 05:35 PM	#70
Just_Dave Its almost time Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,009	the p2p crew are great people

02-07-2006, 09:17 PM	#73
TinyTim Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 188	I have done a lot of P2P campaigns, tried various sponsors with my own networks. I know one thing, it's ok if you can do it yourself for free ( I generate my own P2P traffic) but I wouldn't pay for it at all. Especially the prices being charged, might as well throw your money out the window

02-08-2006, 07:33 AM	#76
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	This traffic is so good, so profitable, does so well with dating sponsors etc. Hey lets give it away and lose money. Yeah that makes so much sense.

02-08-2006, 08:13 AM	#77
TinyTim Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 188	Anyone with experience with p2p traffic knows that it is next to impossible to make money with the prices p2pads are charging. Well, at least the people running p2pads are making money.

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xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	From what I have read on GFY, It seems to me that CT is one of the only success stories with this service.

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slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	If you are buying traffic you have to have a better mouse trap. Reading on the board how well something does and just slamming traffic to the home page of your favorite sponsor is not a way to great wealth.. unless you count DH's cash.

02-08-2006, 12:48 PM	#92
Brad Gosse Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Carpal Tunnel Posts: 2,616	hey WOJ that is targeted traffic on the CPM deal BTW. ;) Thanks for hating just the same. Your brand of hateraide is especially tasty __________________ Free Clipart

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