How Amateur Pages Cheated Me -2 - GoFuckYourself.com

TAG2 · 04-17-2002, 11:04 PM

Well, i see you're pretty quick to close a thread if it exposes you....
Lensman, you closed both the original thread and the one you moved to support.
This is the original THREAD

Frankly, I think the mail system in Canada might be better than your US postal service, and you claimed you sent me the cheque twice... I never miss any snail mail from anyone else but miraculously from you.

And about fed-ex? You think I'm gonna pay you extra to send me a cheque I've been waiting for 2 and a half years? I would rather prefer to expose Amateur Pages and you.

I've even received quite a bit of email of people that had the same problem with you... they gave up... guess that's what you've been counting on.

payrollpete · 04-17-2002, 11:06 PM

e-mail them instead of posting on the board

it would piss me off as it probably pisses lensman off too

(that you take this to the board)

you do bizz with amateur pages, so deal with them, not 3000 other webmasters, you will probably get better results dealing with them personaly

hyper · 04-17-2002, 11:10 PM

he said he would fedex your check at your expense.

shit happens with every sponsor on occasion and your emails were bouncing.

so rather than get banned why dont you have him call you and get it resolved off the board.

keep posting here and im sure you'll be banned

TAG2 · 04-17-2002, 11:14 PM

Well... if anybody would read the page that I posted:
http://www.hardcore-sex-galleries.co...eurpagesstory/
you'll see that I've exchanged enough emails without success, that to keep correspondence with this company can only be fruitless.

Joe Blow · 04-17-2002, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TAG2
Well... if anybody would read the page that I posted:
http://www.hardcore-sex-galleries.co...eurpagesstory/
you'll see that I've exchanged enough emails without success, that to keep correspondence with this company can only be fruitless.

Has TAG2 been banned? Is this blatant censorship? WTF is going on here? Sounds like the guy had a legitimate gripe to me and only brought it to a public forum because he was unable to effect a satisfactory resolution.

Lensman · 04-17-2002, 11:22 PM

OK, you win.

Now we WON'T replace your LOST checks and you are banned.

I offered to help you, but you instead prefer to flip me the bird. You get what you deserve.

Lensman · 04-17-2002, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Blow

Has TAG2 been banned? Is this blatant censorship? WTF is going on here? Sounds like the guy had a legitimate gripe to me and only brought it to a public forum because he was unable to effect a satisfactory resolution.

Read the other thread dude, the guy has third-world mail service.

bdld · 04-17-2002, 11:27 PM

if the checks werent cashed and he didnt cheat the program, he should get paid imo

Joe Blow · 04-17-2002, 11:30 PM

Canada is just across the border man. If the dude is owed money, and they cheque has not been cashed it should be reissued.

Ted · 04-17-2002, 11:30 PM

http://www.hardcore-sex-galleries.co...s/December.htm

lens, will AP survive without this guys traffic ?
let me know if I can help ?

Lensman · 04-17-2002, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdld
if the checks werent cashed and he didnt cheat the program, he should get paid imo

No shit, just don't act like an asshole about it.

SleazyDream · 04-17-2002, 11:31 PM

They pay - they just won't pay YOU Tag2.

FlyingIguana · 04-17-2002, 11:32 PM

he in canada? mail system here is pretty decent. there is the odd slip up and something takes a bit longer but i've never had mail lost before. 99% of my mail gets to me ontime.

i think the guy should get paid, i'd be pissed too if months went by and no cheque showed up.

Joe Blow · 04-17-2002, 11:33 PM

Okay so let me get this straight. Amateur pages pay some webmasters but not all. And if you act like an asshole, which in my part of the world is legal, you don't get your cheque.

Hmmmmm....

hyper · 04-17-2002, 11:35 PM

read the page
he even posted the email where he was told his email was bouncing.

how can you correct a situation if you cant contact the people?

he is not the only webmaster who uses it. i am sure there are people that get 1,000's of dollars a pay period that get their checks.

remember these companies have 20 or 30,000 webmasters to keep track of.

i learned this the hard way too.

SleazyDream · 04-17-2002, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Blow
Okay so let me get this straight. Amateur pages pay some webmasters but not all. And if you act like an asshole, which in my part of the world is legal, you don't get your cheque.

Hmmmmm....

I like that idea. Toooo many people have lost the art of kissing up to the person who signs their checks. Maybe withholding a little money will smarten them up.

Joe Blow · 04-17-2002, 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream

I like that idea. Toooo many people have lost the art of kissing up to the person who signs their checks. Maybe withholding a little money will sparten them up.

It's called theft.

Lensman · 04-17-2002, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Blow
Okay so let me get this straight. Amateur pages pay some webmasters but not all. And if you act like an asshole, which in my part of the world is legal, you don't get your cheque.

Hmmmmm....

Fuck you asshole. We pay everyone except cheaters.

And we help everyone that has a problem, EXCEPT PEOPLE THAT ACT LIKE ASSHOLES.

Joe Blow · 04-17-2002, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman

Fuck you asshole. We pay everyone except cheaters.

And we help everyone that has a problem, EXCEPT PEOPLE THAT ACT LIKE ASSHOLES.

Thank you for that response. It tells me alot about the integrity of your program.

SleazyDream · 04-17-2002, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Blow

It's called theft.

It's only theft if they came to you and bought pre-paid ads. If you came to them they have NO legal obligation to pay you. Only reason they do is so that you CONTINUE to send them profitable traffic.

read the tag below

04-17-2002, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman

Fuck you asshole. We pay everyone except cheaters.

And we help everyone that has a problem, EXCEPT PEOPLE THAT ACT LIKE ASSHOLES.

note to self:

never act like an asshole towards Lens.

note to self 2:

don't act like an asshole in the next 30 min or you'll get banned.

nocostporn · 04-17-2002, 11:41 PM

Why not just reissue him a check? What does being an asshole have to do with it?... After a while I would get pissed and whine about it too...you shouldn't punish the guy just because he doesn't pratice good business sense... You're on his level if you don't pay him though

btw,I don't use the program myself but there has been 100 posts threads on other boards complaining about getting termed and not paid for odd reasons

not an attack,just devils advocate...

FlyingIguana · 04-17-2002, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

It's only theft if they came to you and bought pre-paid ads. If you came to them they have NO legal obligation to pay you. Only reason they do is so that you CONTINUE to send them profitable traffic.

read the tag below

they have a website up for people to sign up. it doesn't matter who goes to who, both sides are in a contract. its not a formal contract, but i guarantee u that it would hold up in court.

nocostporn · 04-17-2002, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

It's only theft if they came to you and bought pre-paid ads. If you came to them they have NO legal obligation to pay you. Only reason they do is so that you CONTINUE to send them profitable traffic.

read the tag below

You have to be an ultimate cock hugger... Is that what Enrons CEO's can say too? Your are employee's,we don't HAVE to pay you,you come to us,we don't come to you... I don't care who's board this is...there is some MAJOR ass kissing...People need their own opinions instead of looking for a friend...

Lensman · 04-17-2002, 11:43 PM

If a check is lost, send an email.

Don't get a reply? I hope not, but PICK UP THE PHONE. 916-435-8612 - it's the same number listed on whois (I can't remember the 800# right now)

Wait 2 years???? Fuck, what do you expect?

Gary · 04-17-2002, 11:46 PM

2 things

- AP is not gonna rip someone off for a few hundred bucks

-I live in Canada, mail system is great here and i always recieve my stuff fast.

Ooops, one more thing, Lens, last i checked, Canada didn't quite qualify as a third world country.

bdld · 04-17-2002, 11:46 PM

if a guy's an asshole, then this is what you do, you 'fire' him, and pay him for all he's owed. simple.

SleazyDream · 04-17-2002, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana

they have a website up for people to sign up. it doesn't matter who goes to who, both sides are in a contract. its not a formal contract, but i guarantee u that it would hold up in court.

good luck on an intangible - and the 'terms and conditions' usually offer the paysite a legal reason not to pay you. You;re prettty much dead in the water.

That this comes down to is a snotty whiner. Work and get paid. Fuck around and just whine all day and make nothing and EXPECT to get fucked over.

The Basis of ANY paysite program is PRODUCE or don't get paid. If your traffic is worth anything people (like lensman) will pay you casue they want you to contunue to make money for them. If it's worth a lot - he'll do whatever he can to make you continue.
If they don't pay you they don't want YOUR traffic. Don't send them any more. Simple? Yes - do you understand it? - I doubt it.

FATPad · 04-17-2002, 11:48 PM

Two years?

Gary · 04-17-2002, 11:50 PM

Sleazy, you know i love you like a dysfunctional cousin, but it really sounds like your defending a company that rips people off. AP doesn't rip people off so your defense isn't needed. I'm sure thats not what you intended, but thats what it sounds like.

Hot Tropical Babes · 04-17-2002, 11:50 PM

why would someone wait two years? Pick up the phone and drop a dime.

SleazyDream · 04-17-2002, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn

You have to be an ultimate cock hugger... Is that what Enrons CEO's can say too? Your are employee's,we don't HAVE to pay you,you come to us,we don't come to you... I don't care who's board this is...there is some MAJOR ass kissing...People need their own opinions instead of looking for a friend...

fuck you - ASK lensman just how much ass kissin I've done for him. I don't promote his programs and he locked the first TGP VIP thread. But he's not the idiot in this case, you whinnnig sniveling no work lazy bums are. I jumped on this thread cause it was just sooooo stupid.

hyper · 04-17-2002, 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream

Simple? Yes - do you understand it? - I doubt it.

you working for www.mybobs.com now?

I doubt it

you have to hear the commercials

SleazyDream · 04-17-2002, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary
Sleazy, you know i love you like a dysfunctional cousin, but it really sounds like your defending a company that rips people off. AP doesn't rip people off so your defense isn't needed. I'm sure thats not what you intended, but thats what it sounds like.

Not saying it's right, just saying that's how it is.

Lensman · 04-17-2002, 11:53 PM

We didn't say we wouldn't pay him. Sounds like a check was lost in the mail. It wasn't followed up on. Sometimes, you gotta keep emailing or calling until these stupid things get resolved.

hyper · 04-17-2002, 11:53 PM

Hey Lens

If TAG2 wins the DVD Can I have it?

SleazyDream · 04-17-2002, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
We didn't say we wouldn't pay him. Sounds like a check was lost in the mail. It wasn't followed up on. Sometimes, you gotta keep emailing or calling until these stupid things get resolved.

I doubt it was lost in the mail - more like he lost it on the way back into the house from the mailbox.

Lensman · 04-17-2002, 11:56 PM

It's go for paying the phone bill for the 800 number for webmasters who AREN'T too lazy to call when the post office loses a check.

SleazyDream · 04-17-2002, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
It's go for paying the phone bill for the 800 number for webmasters who AREN'T too lazy to call when the post office loses a check.

hey lens, I know this is probally too much trouble to check, but I'm actually willing to wager money if you checked your bank records the check was CASHED and he just didn't realize who it was from...........

FlyingIguana · 04-18-2002, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

The Basis of ANY paysite program is PRODUCE or don't get paid. If your traffic is worth anything people (like lensman) will pay you casue they want you to contunue to make money for them. If it's worth a lot - he'll do whatever he can to make you continue.
If they don't pay you they don't want YOUR traffic. Don't send them any more. Simple? Yes - do you understand it? - I doubt it.

with a click through program where they say u'll never be removed for low productivity they should pay even if the guy's ratio is 0:100,000. obviously that kind of ratio would never happen, but u get the picture. the paysite takes the risk of no sign ups, and the webmaster is guaranteed payment without having to worry about ratios.

as long as the guy doesn't break any rules he should be paid regardless of ratios.

hyper · 04-18-2002, 12:00 AM

hmm if i was owed $250 i think a $1 phone call would be worth it.

hey lensman i still want info on that J o b, Should I call u tomorrow? or just wait for your email. I'm off to sleep now for a while.

Lensman · 04-18-2002, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

hey lens, I know this is probally too much trouble to check, but I'm actually willing to wager money if you checked your bank records the check was CASHED and he just didn't realize who it was from...........

No doubt, this shit happens every month. So there's no reason to cop an attitude about it.

SleazyDream · 04-18-2002, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana

with a click through program where they say u'll never be removed for low productivity they should pay even if the guy's ratio is 0:100,000. obviously that kind of ratio would never happen, but u get the picture. the paysite takes the risk of no sign ups, and the webmaster is guaranteed payment without having to worry about ratios.

as long as the guy doesn't break any rules he should be paid regardless of ratios.

dream world. time to wake up

Lensman · 04-18-2002, 12:03 AM

Inguana, we pay regardless of ratio. If you break the rules and have a shitty ratio, look out. If you don't break the rules and have a shitty ratio, no problem.

Fletch XXX · 04-18-2002, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

I doubt it was lost in the mail - more like he lost it on the way back into the house from the mailbox.

Without joking at all, I have had a Mexican neighbor from a few apts down, who doesnt even speak English... bring me a ClickCash check in excess of 1300 bucks, and said he found it on the sidewalk.

I dont trust the post office anymore than I trust fucking cops.

SleazyDream · 04-18-2002, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Inguana, we pay regardless of ratio. If you break the rules and have a shitty ratio, look out. If you don't break the rules and have a shitty ratio, no problem.

ahhh - but they think the shitty ratio is always YOUR fault Lens, thus the alligations.....

some people just don't get it.

boneprone · 04-18-2002, 12:05 AM

can i have his check?
Being a board moderator is a tough job.

SleazyDream · 04-18-2002, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Without joking at all, I have had a Mexican neighbor from a few apts down, who doesnt even speak English... bring me a ClickCash check in excess of 1300 bucks, and said he found it on the sidewalk.

I dont trust the post office anymore than I trust fucking cops.

probally fell outa YOUR hands on the way into the house........

Fletch XXX · 04-18-2002, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Inguana, we pay regardless of ratio. If you break the rules and have a shitty ratio, look out. If you don't break the rules and have a shitty ratio, no problem.

Lensman, my AP account was closed for inactivity one the first go round, think the email said "you gotta send hits in the first 2 weeks of signing up" or asomething.... its been awhile, but I was in the process of creating killer click through galleries and my account was closed before I even pushed it... hehe.. Im not mad, this was like 5 months ago...

Just curious though... hahaha it was killed for inactivity before i even got started hahaha...ill sign up again soon...

FlyingIguana · 04-18-2002, 12:07 AM

sleazy i can't believe your posts on this thread. try telling a company like google that their clickthrough traffic sux and ur not paying. their lawyers would assfuck u for months in court.

04-17-2002, 11:04 PM	#1
TAG2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3	How Amateur Pages Cheated Me -2 Well, i see you're pretty quick to close a thread if it exposes you.... Lensman, you closed both the original thread and the one you moved to support. This is the original THREAD Frankly, I think the mail system in Canada might be better than your US postal service, and you claimed you sent me the cheque twice... I never miss any snail mail from anyone else but miraculously from you. And about fed-ex? You think I'm gonna pay you extra to send me a cheque I've been waiting for 2 and a half years? I would rather prefer to expose Amateur Pages and you. I've even received quite a bit of email of people that had the same problem with you... they gave up... guess that's what you've been counting on.

04-17-2002, 11:10 PM	#3
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	he said he would fedex your check at your expense. shit happens with every sponsor on occasion and your emails were bouncing. so rather than get banned why dont you have him call you and get it resolved off the board. keep posting here and im sure you'll be banned __________________

04-17-2002, 11:30 PM	#9
Joe Blow Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: My house Posts: 276	Canada is just across the border man. If the dude is owed money, and they cheque has not been cashed it should be reissued. __________________ Joe Blow Clickcash give you $50 just for signing up! Offer your surfers Pay-Per-View XXX Movies!

04-17-2002, 11:31 PM	#12
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	They pay - they just won't pay YOU Tag2. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

04-17-2002, 11:33 PM	#14
Joe Blow Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: My house Posts: 276	Okay so let me get this straight. Amateur pages pay some webmasters but not all. And if you act like an asshole, which in my part of the world is legal, you don't get your cheque. Hmmmmm.... __________________ Joe Blow Clickcash give you $50 just for signing up! Offer your surfers Pay-Per-View XXX Movies!

04-17-2002, 11:06 PM	#2
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	e-mail them instead of posting on the board it would piss me off as it probably pisses lensman off too (that you take this to the board) you do bizz with amateur pages, so deal with them, not 3000 other webmasters, you will probably get better results dealing with them personaly

04-17-2002, 11:14 PM	#4
TAG2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3	Well... if anybody would read the page that I posted: http://www.hardcore-sex-galleries.co...eurpagesstory/ you'll see that I've exchanged enough emails without success, that to keep correspondence with this company can only be fruitless.

04-17-2002, 11:22 PM	#6
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	OK, you win. Now we WON'T replace your LOST checks and you are banned. I offered to help you, but you instead prefer to flip me the bird. You get what you deserve.

04-17-2002, 11:27 PM	#8
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	if the checks werent cashed and he didnt cheat the program, he should get paid imo

04-17-2002, 11:30 PM	#10
Ted Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 830	http://www.hardcore-sex-galleries.co...s/December.htm lens, will AP survive without this guys traffic ? let me know if I can help ?

04-17-2002, 11:32 PM	#13
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	he in canada? mail system here is pretty decent. there is the odd slip up and something takes a bit longer but i've never had mail lost before. 99% of my mail gets to me ontime. i think the guy should get paid, i'd be pissed too if months went by and no cheque showed up.

04-17-2002, 11:35 PM	#15
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	read the page he even posted the email where he was told his email was bouncing. how can you correct a situation if you cant contact the people? he is not the only webmaster who uses it. i am sure there are people that get 1,000's of dollars a pay period that get their checks. remember these companies have 20 or 30,000 webmasters to keep track of. i learned this the hard way too. __________________

04-17-2002, 11:41 PM	#22
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	Why not just reissue him a check? What does being an asshole have to do with it?... After a while I would get pissed and whine about it too...you shouldn't punish the guy just because he doesn't pratice good business sense... You're on his level if you don't pay him though btw,I don't use the program myself but there has been 100 posts threads on other boards complaining about getting termed and not paid for odd reasons not an attack,just devils advocate...

04-17-2002, 11:43 PM	#25
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	If a check is lost, send an email. Don't get a reply? I hope not, but PICK UP THE PHONE. 916-435-8612 - it's the same number listed on whois (I can't remember the 800# right now) Wait 2 years???? Fuck, what do you expect? Last edited by Lensman; 04-17-2002 at 11:45 PM..

04-17-2002, 11:46 PM	#26
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	2 things - AP is not gonna rip someone off for a few hundred bucks -I live in Canada, mail system is great here and i always recieve my stuff fast. Ooops, one more thing, Lens, last i checked, Canada didn't quite qualify as a third world country. __________________ Up to 35$ per join...!

04-17-2002, 11:48 PM	#29
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	Two years? __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

04-17-2002, 11:50 PM	#30
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	Sleazy, you know i love you like a dysfunctional cousin, but it really sounds like your defending a company that rips people off. AP doesn't rip people off so your defense isn't needed. I'm sure thats not what you intended, but thats what it sounds like. __________________ Up to 35$ per join...!

04-17-2002, 11:50 PM	#31
Hot Tropical Babes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 3,014	why would someone wait two years? Pick up the phone and drop a dime. __________________ <BR> Trade with Big Tits TGP Trade with Titman

04-17-2002, 11:53 PM	#35
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	We didn't say we wouldn't pay him. Sounds like a check was lost in the mail. It wasn't followed up on. Sometimes, you gotta keep emailing or calling until these stupid things get resolved.

04-17-2002, 11:56 PM	#38
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	It's go for paying the phone bill for the 800 number for webmasters who AREN'T too lazy to call when the post office loses a check.

04-18-2002, 12:00 AM	#41
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	hmm if i was owed $250 i think a $1 phone call would be worth it. hey lensman i still want info on that J o b, Should I call u tomorrow? or just wait for your email. I'm off to sleep now for a while. __________________

04-18-2002, 12:03 AM	#44
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Inguana, we pay regardless of ratio. If you break the rules and have a shitty ratio, look out. If you don't break the rules and have a shitty ratio, no problem.

04-18-2002, 12:05 AM	#47
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	can i have his check? Being a board moderator is a tough job. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids. Last edited by boneprone; 04-18-2002 at 12:07 AM..

04-18-2002, 12:07 AM	#50
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	sleazy i can't believe your posts on this thread. try telling a company like google that their clickthrough traffic sux and ur not paying. their lawyers would assfuck u for months in court.