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hyper 04-18-2002 12:00 AM

hmm if i was owed $250 i think a $1 phone call would be worth it.

hey lensman i still want info on that J o b, Should I call u tomorrow? or just wait for your email. I'm off to sleep now for a while.

Lensman 04-18-2002 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


hey lens, I know this is probally too much trouble to check, but I'm actually willing to wager money if you checked your bank records the check was CASHED and he just didn't realize who it was from...........


No doubt, this shit happens every month. So there's no reason to cop an attitude about it.

SleazyDream 04-18-2002 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana


with a click through program where they say u'll never be removed for low productivity they should pay even if the guy's ratio is 0:100,000. obviously that kind of ratio would never happen, but u get the picture. the paysite takes the risk of no sign ups, and the webmaster is guaranteed payment without having to worry about ratios.

as long as the guy doesn't break any rules he should be paid regardless of ratios.


dream world. time to wake up

Lensman 04-18-2002 12:03 AM

Inguana, we pay regardless of ratio. If you break the rules and have a shitty ratio, look out. If you don't break the rules and have a shitty ratio, no problem.

Fletch XXX 04-18-2002 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


I doubt it was lost in the mail - more like he lost it on the way back into the house from the mailbox.

Without joking at all, I have had a Mexican neighbor from a few apts down, who doesnt even speak English... bring me a ClickCash check in excess of 1300 bucks, and said he found it on the sidewalk.

I dont trust the post office anymore than I trust fucking cops.


:2 cents:

SleazyDream 04-18-2002 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Lensman
Inguana, we pay regardless of ratio. If you break the rules and have a shitty ratio, look out. If you don't break the rules and have a shitty ratio, no problem.
ahhh - but they think the shitty ratio is always YOUR fault Lens, thus the alligations.....

some people just don't get it.

boneprone 04-18-2002 12:05 AM

can i have his check?
Being a board moderator is a tough job.

SleazyDream 04-18-2002 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Without joking at all, I have had a Mexican neighbor from a few apts down, who doesnt even speak English... bring me a ClickCash check in excess of 1300 bucks, and said he found it on the sidewalk.

I dont trust the post office anymore than I trust fucking cops.


:2 cents:

probally fell outa YOUR hands on the way into the house........

Fletch XXX 04-18-2002 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Lensman
Inguana, we pay regardless of ratio. If you break the rules and have a shitty ratio, look out. If you don't break the rules and have a shitty ratio, no problem.

Lensman, my AP account was closed for inactivity one the first go round, think the email said "you gotta send hits in the first 2 weeks of signing up" or asomething.... its been awhile, but I was in the process of creating killer click through galleries and my account was closed before I even pushed it... hehe.. Im not mad, this was like 5 months ago...

Just curious though... hahaha it was killed for inactivity before i even got started hahaha...ill sign up again soon...

FlyingIguana 04-18-2002 12:07 AM

sleazy i can't believe your posts on this thread. try telling a company like google that their clickthrough traffic sux and ur not paying. their lawyers would assfuck u for months in court.

Fletch XXX 04-18-2002 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


probally fell outa YOUR hands on the way into the house........

Nope, I live in Apt #1 and since I usually have my ClickCash checks FedExed it wouldnt have been a problem, because FedEx brings them to my door.

:thumbsup

Lensman 04-18-2002 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX



Lensman, my AP account was closed for inactivity one the first go round, think the email said "you gotta send hits in the first 2 weeks of signing up" or asomething.... its been awhile, but I was in the process of creating killer click through galleries and my account was closed before I even pushed it... hehe.. Im not mad, this was like 5 months ago...

Just curious though... hahaha it was killed for inactivity before i even got started hahaha...ill sign up again soon...

Hmmm, are you sure? We don't do that.

SleazyDream 04-18-2002 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
sleazy i can't believe your posts on this thread. try telling a company like google that their clickthrough traffic sux and ur not paying. their lawyers would assfuck u for months in court.
you're not google.
google gets paid UPFRONT and PRODUCES - whole other ballgame.

SleazyDream 04-18-2002 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Nope, I live in Apt #1 and since I usually have my ClickCash checks FedExed it wouldnt have been a problem, because FedEx brings them to my door.

:thumbsup

then why are you blaiming the mailman if it was fedex?

Fletch XXX 04-18-2002 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by Lensman


Hmmm, are you sure? We don't do that.

Not sure on the what the email said, But I am sure I got one, and it notified me that my acct had been closed, for inactivity, and for some reason I recall it saying something along you have to send hits in the first 2 weeks or something.... not sure bro, its been awhile... as I said, I hadnt even begun to push it, so i wasnt pissed... maybe it was a mistake who knows bro...

Fletch XXX 04-18-2002 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


then why are you blaiming the mailman if it was fedex?

I didnt blame anyone, i said a mexican handed me my check and said he found it on the sidewalk.

The check SHOUld have been FedExed... as a matter of fact ClickCash is supposed to OVERNIGHT checks, but anyone who makes the 1k knows they dont overnight shit.

FlyingIguana 04-18-2002 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


you're not google.
google gets paid UPFRONT and PRODUCES - whole other ballgame.

i'm just giving an example

i don't pay google up front for ppc and the ratios are pretty shitty compared to other ppc surfer friendly engines

Lensman 04-18-2002 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Not sure on the what the email said, But I am sure I got one, and it notified me that my acct had been closed, for inactivity, and for some reason I recall it saying something along you have to send hits in the first 2 weeks or something.... not sure bro, its been awhile... as I said, I hadnt even begun to push it, so i wasnt pissed... maybe it was a mistake who knows bro...

It may be a CTC thing, we're so big that they are constantly purging inactive accounts.

Fletch XXX 04-18-2002 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman


It may be a CTC thing, we're so big that they are constantly purging inactive accounts.

Might be man... no clue...

No worries bro, tis all in the past.

SleazyDream 04-18-2002 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana


i'm just giving an example

i don't pay google up front for ppc and the ratios are pretty shitty compared to other ppc surfer friendly engines


and if you don't pay them they won't send you any more traffic. Simple?

boneprone 04-18-2002 12:21 AM

Can i have his check too?

digi 04-18-2002 12:27 AM

no, you get to be ass fucked by google lawers in court.

jimmy3way 04-18-2002 12:27 AM

This is a bullshit ass thread.

I don't even push AP and I've gotten Lensman on the phone.

All you have to do is call and dial the Foosball Room extension on the phone tree, I think it's ext 4 or something.

Once, back in the day,I had an emergency with my GFY signature and I got him on the customer lounge line at North Rocklin BMW-Saab, I think he was getting the oil changed in his old 740.

FlyingIguana 04-18-2002 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream



and if you don't pay them they won't send you any more traffic. Simple?

no shit

but u rip someone off they have every right to come after u. ppl do this for a living, not as a hobby where if everyone just says 'we're not paying' u can just shrug it off.

X37375787 04-18-2002 12:43 AM

shit, i just remembered that AP still owes me $2.61

gotta get those pigeons ready soon...

Hooterdog 04-18-2002 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Inguana, we pay regardless of ratio. If you break the rules and have a shitty ratio, look out. If you don't break the rules and have a shitty ratio, no problem.
That's not true. I was not paid about $400+ back a couple of years ago (I got over it). You suspended my account because my traffic "looked funny" for a week. I didn't then and still don't know how to send phony hits. You said John was going to issue a check and everything was cool. I asked several more times, and never got a dime.

Pathfinder 04-18-2002 12:53 AM

When I first began in this business I learned that sponsors in general cannot be trusted. I used to check my stats daily and when a check did not arrive I would E-mail the sponsor (some of whom never responded ever) and others would respond with one excuse or another as to why I had not received a check. Some of these sponsors are now defunct but others of them are still online. The amounts I never received where not enough to persue and if you read most of the sponsor's terms carefully they pretty much cover their ass. I seldom check stats anymore, so I usually do not know what is owed to me by whom.

The honest sponsors will pay you most of the time. The less than honest will pay you some of the time. The totally dishonest ones will always find one excuse or another not to pay any of the time.

buster 04-18-2002 01:05 AM

WOW

drunkmonkey 04-18-2002 01:08 AM

Damn, I got a check the other day that said TAG2 on it but I thought it was for a watch. Hell, I will even hold on to it while you drive down here and pick it up. Then, instead of calling you to apologize for bitch smacking you, I will post it on the board for EVERYONE to see :1orglaugh

Silly shit, man. There is no way on God's green earth that AP would hold out on you for a few hundred bucks. It is obviously a mistake on somebody's behalf but a public forum (especially this crazy one) is no place to handle it.

:2 cents:

tekart 04-18-2002 01:53 AM

Lensman,

I'm sure you run a top notch company over there and that this type of situation rarely happens.

In cases like this, if a webmaster 'claims' to have been waiting 'x' number of weeks/months for a check, no matter how big it is and it never arrives...would it be feasible to send a new check via 'certified mail?'...that way there you can track if it has been delivered (via a signature) and the webmaster in question did in fact receive it?....or would this be to costly for every webmaster that comes to you to concerning 'lost' or 'non-delivered' checks from AP?

If this only happens...oh...say...'every so often', then wouldn't sending the check via certified mail be a better resource then another email stating 'checks in the mail again?'...

Just asking...that's all!

Thanks,

FlyingIguana 04-18-2002 02:15 AM

at least split the cost.

ZapMan 04-18-2002 02:22 AM

Fuck you idiot. I have been paid every month in FULL!

DarkJedi 04-18-2002 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by ZapMan
Fuck you idiot. I have been paid every month in FULL!
Gee that was a very intelligent reply


I just want to say that i used to have problems with AP support myself, and i can understand the guy's frustration.

Sleaze - I dont approve that "I'm tougher than you, therefore I choose whether to pay you or not" attitude.

The deal is, if a person honestly earned his money, he should be payed. Looks like the guy tried emailing support, tried posting in the support forums etc - and support still didnt get the situation resolved. If there is nothing else to the story, I think his "asshole" attitude is justified.
:2 cents:

Dualcpu 04-18-2002 03:15 AM

Lensman,

I would get this issue resolved quickly otherwise this individual is going to hire that WORD guy (investigator) and you are in big trouble then ;-)

12clicks 04-18-2002 04:22 AM

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Originally posted by Pathfinder

The honest sponsors will pay you most of the time. The less than honest will pay you some of the time. The totally dishonest ones will always find one excuse or another not to pay any of the time.

what a bunch of shit. These threads are so amazing!
Pathfinder, your wizdom on this issue has obviously gotten you where you are today.

To the rest of you dopes; when someone doesn't get a check, you *DON'T* just write them a new one you investigate what happened. If the webmaster doesn't bother telling the sponsor about it in a timely fashion, don't expect the sponsor to make it priority 1 either.

When you write thousands of checks a month, odds are one or two might have a problem (usually caused by the webmaster). If you react like a dick about a problem arrising, expect to be treated like a dick.

Just yesterday some moron sent me an email asking how he could ensure that his check would go to him and not somebody else. My answer was,"by giving us your proper name and address when you signed up 5 minutes ago.

If this is your business, there is no reason for a program operator to have to hold your hand. This is YOUR business and YOU should know how to resolve problems conserning YOUR business. Acting like an asshole doesn't get it done.

FlyingIguana 04-18-2002 04:31 AM

12clicks the guy did email them about it a few times. he has a lil page up with the emails on it. after 5 months of emails or something, duno i've seen a few numbers floating around, he came here and bitched.

guess that about sums it up.

Pathfinder 04-18-2002 05:11 AM

The honest sponsors will pay you most of the time. The less than honest will pay you some of the time. The totally dishonest ones will always find one excuse or another not to pay any of the time.

Not wisdom; but is the truth.

FlyingIguana 04-18-2002 05:39 AM

this thread will die soon enough

Krome 04-18-2002 05:45 AM

I hear www.amazon.com has a great webmaster program. Apparently none of their checks get lost. You can link direct to the book of your choice....personally "Revenge for Beginners" may suit you...

FlyingIguana 04-18-2002 05:47 AM

they must have some sex novels, should convert good on story sites :)


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