$750 Visa Start-up Fee...who doesnt require it? - GoFuckYourself.com

Booger · 02-06-2006, 04:39 PM

What 3rd party processors dont require a $750 start-up fee <other than paycom wich we already use>

P.S. - First person to mention IBILL get the "Dick of the Month Aware"

BIGTYMER · 02-06-2006, 04:40 PM

IBill yo.

Hardlinks · 02-06-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger

What 3rd party processors dont require a $750 start-up fee <other than paycom wich we already use>

P.S. - First person to mention IBILL get the "Dick of the Month Aware"

I certainly hope 750$ isnt the decider in who processes for you.

After Shock Media · 02-06-2006, 04:48 PM

I certainly hope you are not fretting over spending 750.00 to process for a paysite.

chowda · 02-06-2006, 04:49 PM

i too want an aware

im still thinking about kimmyskim acct or incorporating in jabraltar and getting some eu processin

HairToStay · 02-06-2006, 04:50 PM

ICQ 312311 for a US based processor that doesn't require a Visa fee and works directly with Visa

Booger · 02-06-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardlinks

I certainly hope 750$ isnt the decider in who processes for you.

Def not the decider..but more of a factor or something to put into consideration

sfera · 02-06-2006, 04:58 PM

not really any reputable ones that do

opulence · 02-06-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger

Def not the decider..but more of a factor or something to put into consideration

Shouldn't even be a factor, at all.

xenigo · 02-06-2006, 05:04 PM

If any of you don't take ALL costs into consideration when starting a small business, you've got a screw loose.

All expenses matter. All the better if they can be avoided entirely.

Booger · 02-07-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by opulence

Shouldn't even be a factor, at all.

: SO if 2 car lots are selling the exact same car at the exact same price and both have the exact same reputation but 1 charges $750$ to register your car and the 2nd one doesnt , you may still go with number 1 because the $750 isnt and shouldt be a factor?

h Lets say somones just starting a website ,has traffic and sales but doesnmt have $750 startup but needs a place to proccess...should that person wait however long it takes to come up with $750 or should they go with a company that doenst charge and get the ball rolling ..make $750 and go with a different company as a primary and use the already up and runnin non-750 company as a secondary.People like you show your ignorrance by automatically assuming you know all the facts of a situation. I asked a simple question wich you had no answer ,only quick comment that cleary shows your lack of common sense when it comes to finacial buissnees solutions

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Originally Posted by xenigo

If any of you don't take ALL costs into consideration when starting a small business, you've got a screw loose.

All expenses matter. All the better if they can be avoided entirely.

StuartD · 02-07-2006, 12:28 PM

globill doesn't...
pswbilling doesn't...
egs pay doesn't...
probilling doesn't...

MacDaddyPlaya · 02-07-2006, 12:53 PM

If you are in the US, are high-risk (adult) and want to use an IPSP (3rd party processor) you will have to pay the $750 fee (unless the processor is paying it for you).

vicki · 02-07-2006, 01:00 PM

it all depends .. if you've already paid the yearly registration in that jurisdiction etc etc

why only 3rd party processors *just curious*?

MacDaddyPlaya · 02-07-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by vicki

it all depends .. if you've already paid the yearly registration in that jurisdiction etc etc

why only 3rd party processors *just curious*?

Just VISA regulations. VISA views the webmaster as the merchant, not the billing company. Since the webmaster is the merchant, they must be "registered" with VISA and pay the registration fees.

Sly · 02-07-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger

: SO if 2 car lots are selling the exact same car at the exact same price and both have the exact same reputation but 1 charges $750$ to register your car and the 2nd one doesnt , you may still go with number 1 because the $750 isnt and shouldt be a factor?

That would be true assuming both lots sold the exact same car with the exact same service. Since CCBill and say a non-$750 processor don't exactly offer the same service and security, you can't equally compare.

If you're strapped for cash, try maybe a premium AVS site or Verotel, I'm not sure what their situation is right now. Or better yet, put the $750 on your credit card.

I am always amazed how many people don't have a business credit card. I would be lost without mine. Used properly, they can really help your business grow.

Booger · 02-07-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

globill doesn't...
pswbilling doesn't...
egs pay doesn't...
probilling doesn't...

a sense of humour i can handle

Booger · 02-07-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

That would be true assuming both lots sold the exact same car with the exact same service. Since CCBill and say a non-$750 processor don't exactly offer the same service and security, you can't equally compare.

If you're strapped for cash, try maybe a premium AVS site or Verotel, I'm not sure what their situation is right now. Or better yet, put the $750 on your credit card.

I am always amazed how many people don't have a business credit card. I would be lost without mine. Used properly, they can really help your business grow.

Your right."assuming".thats why i used the terms exact..People assumed i was not only looking for proeccessing but basing my descions on the $750 fee..instead of just answring the simople question i put foward

.....As for my second hypothetical , it still fits in with OPLUENCE's lack of common sense.

Personally im not strapped for cash but im sure some who are would have benefitted from this thread if somone could have come up with a solid answer rather than the usual GFY bantor, although props goes out too macdaaddy who pretty much sum'd it up

StuartD · 02-07-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger

a sense of humour i can handle

Just making a point. If you find a proessor that'll side step the fee, be prepared for what could happen as a result.

History has a horrible way of repeating itself

MacDaddyPlaya · 02-07-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger

: SO if 2 car lots are selling the exact same car at the exact same price and both have the exact same reputation but 1 charges $750$ to register your car and the 2nd one doesnt , you may still go with number 1 because the $750 isnt and shouldt be a factor?

I can't support this analogy as buying a car and determining who will be processing, holding and handling your business's money are not really in the same ballpark.

Booger · 02-07-2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

Just making a point. If you find a proessor that'll side step the fee, be prepared for what could happen as a result.

History has a horrible way of repeating itself

Your right ,Althoug Paycom side stepped the fee last year when the IBILL fiasco was catching steam

vicki · 02-07-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

VISA views the webmaster as the merchant

exactly
and if the merchant has already been registered and will be processing in the SAME jurisdiction .....

TreasureBucks · 02-07-2006, 01:26 PM

dude, you were great in Revenge Of The Nerds....

Why did you quit acting????

theres no money in porn

Expo_Vids · 02-07-2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by opulence

Shouldn't even be a factor, at all.

O'RLY? Then paypal me $750 right now it that money does not matter to you.

Booger · 02-07-2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

I can't support this analogy as buying a car and determining who will be processing, holding and handling your business's money are not really in the same ballpark.

So go with my second one

Lets say somones just starting a website ,has traffic and sales but doesnmt have $750 startup but needs a place to proccess...should that person wait however long it takes to come up with $750 or should they go with a company that doenst charge and get the ball rolling ..make $750 and go with a different company as a primary and use the already up and runnin non-750 company as a secondary.

u-Bob · 02-07-2006, 01:30 PM

if $750 is a factor, go the pay per view way: PayAsYouClick.

Sly · 02-07-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger

So go with my second one

Lets say somones just starting a website ,has traffic and sales but doesnmt have $750 startup but needs a place to proccess...should that person wait however long it takes to come up with $750 or should they go with a company that doenst charge and get the ball rolling ..make $750 and go with a different company as a primary and use the already up and runnin non-750 company as a secondary.

If said person has "traffic and sales" then "$750 start-up" should not be an issue.

d00t · 02-07-2006, 01:34 PM

if 750 bucks is a problem you should not be starting a new business.

Booger · 02-07-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TreasureBucks

dude, you were great in Revenge Of The Nerds....

Why did you quit acting????

theres no money in porn

Who said Booger quit acting? Did you see "Ray" the academy award winning movie starring Jamie Foxx? Booger played Rays record producer

As far as no momey in Porn Speak for yourself, i know one thing i wont be getting rick by digging in the sand looking for burried tresure .....tresurebucks ..lol

Pornwolf · 02-07-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

globill doesn't...
pswbilling doesn't...
egs pay doesn't...
probilling doesn't...

This is probably the most important post in this thread.

Booger · 02-07-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf

This is probably the most important post in this thread.

this maybe true , i agree but jeesh can somone answer the fucking question already . i mean it was very short simple and straight to the point yet out of all the veterans,rookies,trolls and ass nuggetts noone yet has answered the question directly, typical gfy for ya

Here it is again :
What 3rd party processors dont require a $750 start-up fee <other than paycom wich we already use>

vicki · 02-07-2006, 02:06 PM

Booger

paycom EU or US?
3rd party only?

munki · 02-07-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

globill doesn't...
pswbilling doesn't...
egs pay doesn't...
probilling doesn't...

Great info... thanks!!!

Snake Doctor · 02-07-2006, 02:18 PM

$750 Visa Start-up Fee...who doesnt require it?

Mastercard

NKYKev · 02-07-2006, 02:24 PM

Verotel.

Booger · 02-07-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by vicki

Booger

paycom EU or US?
3rd party only?

US ..3rd party

Booger · 02-07-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by socalkev

Verotel.

We have a Winner

Finally somone with above average reading comprehension skills

aico · 02-07-2006, 02:35 PM

Pretty much all of the ones that I would never use.

vicki · 02-07-2006, 02:37 PM

none .. and if they say they don't require it and they aren't paying it FOR you .. run

good luck

whoisnext · 02-07-2006, 02:37 PM

I believe $750 start-up fee is a made up fee by these 3rd party processors. Lets say you go get register with visa through ccbill, paycom, 365 and others. You pay 750 once, twice and three times for visa for the same registration!!!

It sounds fishy, isnot it? If it is really a fee visa collects, we would pay it once(for the same site) and process with as many processor as we wish...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Booger

What 3rd party processors dont require a $750 start-up fee <other than paycom wich we already use>

P.S. - First person to mention IBILL get the "Dick of the Month Aware"

Booger · 02-07-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by d00t

if 750 bucks is a problem you should not be starting a new business.

who said anything about a starting new buissness?who said they had a problem raising 750$ ? I will post the question again for those who jumped over the FIRST post in this thread :

What 3rd party processors dont require a $750 start-up fee <other than paycom wich we already use>?

whoisnext · 02-07-2006, 02:45 PM

totally disagree with ya. You do not have a merchant account with visa. It is the processor who has the account. Visa views you and me(adult biz) as problem and do not give us merchant accounts unless we have a very high volume.

Lets say Visa deals with us, then why would we have a need to go through a 3rd party processor?

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Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya

Just VISA regulations. VISA views the webmaster as the merchant, not the billing company. Since the webmaster is the merchant, they must be "registered" with VISA and pay the registration fees.

Ben.Z · 02-07-2006, 02:46 PM

Hi Booger,

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MacDaddyPlaya · 02-07-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whoisnext

totally disagree with ya. You do not have a merchant account with visa. It is the processor who has the account. Visa views you and me(adult biz) as problem and do not give us merchant accounts unless we have a very high volume.

Lets say Visa deals with us, then why would we have a need to go through a 3rd party processor?

It's not me you are disagree with, it's VISA. That isn't my view, that is VISA's view, I was just explaining it.

Booger · 02-07-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WTS - Ben

Hi Booger,

While shopping billing solutions, don't forget about ACH (online checks)! There are no fee's involved when setting up an account with ACHdebit.com. Drop me a line to get the ball rolling, or fill out our online application to get started.

I hope to hear from you soon!

Kind Regards,
Ben Zuckerman

Account Manager
Web Transaction Services
Toll Free: 1(866)735-5987 ext.1168
ICQ: 138827832

Thanks Ben i appreciate the offer and might just take you up on it in the near future

MacDaddyPlaya · 02-07-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger

Lets say somones just starting a website ,has traffic and sales but doesnmt have $750 startup but needs a place to proccess...should that person wait however long it takes to come up with $750 or should they go with a company that doenst charge and get the ball rolling ..make $750 and go with a different company as a primary and use the already up and runnin non-750 company as a secondary.

I would say they should come up with the 750 or put it on a credit card. If they could not incorporate in the EU I would say to stick with one of the reputable US based IPSPs and pay the fee.

vicki · 02-07-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger

I will post the question again for those who jumped over the FIRST post in this thread :

What 3rd party processors dont require a $750 start-up fee <other than paycom wich we already use>?

The technical answer is:
Lots of processors don't require a $750 start-up fee ..
HOWEVER, if you plan to get credit card processing for something in the high-risk genre (which using Paycom implies) you have to pay the V and/or MC HR reg fee {amount dependant upon the coding} per merchant.
If the merchant has already paid the HR reg fee to V or MC and ...
*is going to process within that same jurisdiction
*is within the same payment registration year
they do not have to pay again until renew time

02-06-2006, 04:39 PM	#1
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vicki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep in the heart o' Texas Posts: 1,478	Booger paycom EU or US? 3rd party only? __________________ If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment. HR merchant accounts from 3.45% solid biz since 98 victoriakozub AT gmail.com skype: victoria.kozub \| ICQ: 74296746

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