ethical domain name problem! - GoFuckYourself.com

s9ann0 · 02-05-2006, 01:30 PM

Ok say maybe 4 years ago you helped register a nice domain that is worth good money for someone. This means you have access to the account holding the name and control over it. Say this perons then dissapeared and over a period of years you had been paying for the name whilst making every effort to contact them without any luck. It looks like they had basically abandenned the site and the internet totally and dissapeared. So the domain again needs renewing and paying for or it is going to go on-hold and eventually someone else will grab. What would you do? do you let it go to on-hold or would you use your access to pay for the domain and transfer it to yourself?

help!

BoyAlley · 02-05-2006, 01:32 PM

I would give it to me if I were you, so you're not faced with such an ethical dilemma.

LiveDose · 02-05-2006, 01:32 PM

It's yours come on now.

Deputy Chief Command · 02-05-2006, 01:33 PM

its yours

after so many years of YOU paying the renewal and them not claiming there UNPhahaha196;ID domain makes it years

I think it is 100% legal and ethical to make it yours if it was truely after years, and if you were truely the one paying for the renewal without the "true" owners ever trying to get a hold of "their" domain ..........

dissipate · 02-05-2006, 01:33 PM

honestly, it looks like he has no desire for the domain name, and hes not responded to being contacted. the domain is up for grabs.

LiveDose · 02-05-2006, 01:34 PM

If you feel guilty, register it under a different name and if the person ever contacts you tell them you let it expire. They have no claim on it if you have been paying the renewals. I wish I had friends like you.

Violetta · 02-05-2006, 01:34 PM

take it... !

Dagwolf · 02-05-2006, 01:43 PM

I don't see a moral dilemma, although there's the possibility of a legal one in the future.

polish_aristocrat · 02-05-2006, 01:45 PM

it depends how much effort u put in contacting the disappeared person i'd say

s9ann0 · 02-05-2006, 01:53 PM

I have tried several emails for years taken from whois and tracking down old sites. I've tried all phone numbers on domains and sites, I tried searching names on google, contacting ISP's for info and to pass message and everything I could think of short of hiring a private detective to track this guy down over about 3 years.

We are talking about a domain people have been trying to contact him to offer low five figure sum for.

x3guide · 02-05-2006, 01:54 PM

Is the domain currently in use? As in - does it generate money for anyone. If not, there's no issue at all. Just take it.

But exactly how, if there's no active site on it, is it "worth a lot of money" as you said?

Theo · 02-05-2006, 01:55 PM

once a thief, always a thief

no doubt i would get it

RayBonga · 02-05-2006, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanno

Ok say maybe 4 years ago you helped register a nice domain that is worth good money for someone. This means you have access to the account holding the name and control over it. Say this perons then dissapeared and over a period of years you had been paying for the name whilst making every effort to contact them without any luck. It looks like they had basically abandenned the site and the internet totally and dissapeared. So the domain again needs renewing and paying for or it is going to go on-hold and eventually someone else will grab. What would you do? do you let it go to on-hold or would you use your access to pay for the domain and transfer it to yourself?

help!

Take it for yourself and sell it.

If the person in cause reappears you can always give him the money.

If your conscience doesn't allow you to do it just put it in my name and I'll tale care of it until friend comes around

s9ann0 · 02-05-2006, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x3guide

Is the domain currently in use? As in - does it generate money for anyone. If not, there's no issue at all. Just take it.

But exactly how, if there's no active site on it, is it "worth a lot of money" as you said?

Well the domain has an old page from about 2001? with some KarasXXX and other program links on it, this is back from the era when maximumcash was king!
So I doubt it produces much if any $'s on these links or hes even cashing the checks I guess I could try to contact MaxCash maybe they can shed some light.

EdgeXXX · 02-05-2006, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanno

use your access to pay for the domain and transfer it to yourself

That one

wargames · 02-05-2006, 02:11 PM

take the name asap

s9ann0 · 02-05-2006, 03:40 PM

I think rather than letting it go to on-hold I will pay for and transfer the name but I want to make it a matter if public record here on GFY that if Bigtony shows up he can have the name back.

and if anyone knows who i am talking about please put him in touch

u-Bob · 02-05-2006, 04:28 PM

just take it....

woj · 02-05-2006, 04:32 PM

why are you asking stupid questions? Take it, in the worst case you can just give it back to him...

fitzmulti · 02-05-2006, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanno

What would you do? do you let it go to on-hold or would you use your access to pay for the domain and transfer it to yourself?
help!

You're actually asking this question?
: grab :

Fitz

Matt 26z · 02-05-2006, 05:17 PM

Hmm... I would let it expire and go on hold. Then on the very last day before the registrar releases it, pay the extra fee to get it back. This pretty much proves that he didn't want it.

x3guide · 02-05-2006, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanno

Well the domain has an old page from about 2001? with some KarasXXX and other program links on it, this is back from the era when maximumcash was king!
So I doubt it produces much if any $'s on these links or hes even cashing the checks I guess I could try to contact MaxCash maybe they can shed some light.

I'd do just that - try to find out if he's still getting any cash from it. Start by seeing if the links even work (with a page that old you never know). If there's any doubt I'd hesitate to grab the domain, but if you can honestly suspect that he's no longer making a dime from it and it could go to better use, I'd say you've earned the right to the domain by making payments and actually being aware it's about to expire, as opposed to your friend.

/x3

Saeun · 02-05-2006, 09:42 PM

Cough up the $8, you cheap bastard.

The Sultan Of Smut · 02-05-2006, 11:14 PM

I don't see the ethical problem here.

reynold · 02-05-2006, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf

I don't see a moral dilemma, although there's the possibility of a legal one in the future.

Agree...
As with any battle, the legal ones are the most devastating and the most costly.

bhutocracy · 02-06-2006, 12:32 AM

if you've paid for it for 5 years and he hasn't replied to any of your emails then..... seriously.. half a decade of paying the bills makes it yours. If he wanted it that much he'd be trying to get it off you and paying his own bills.

bhutocracy · 02-06-2006, 12:34 AM

you'd be doing him a favour really.. if it goes on hold he's lost it forever to some dom vulture. This way if he ever asks about it he can get some compensation.

KRL · 02-06-2006, 12:48 AM

Finders keepers. Losers weepers. As they say . . .

Rick Latona · 02-06-2006, 01:44 PM

I think there are many examples that would support you taking the name. It's abandoned property.

The Duck · 02-06-2006, 01:48 PM

its your dude, dont worry about it.

Grapesoda · 02-06-2006, 01:53 PM

Sounds to me like they have amnesia and are wondering around lost in the Nairobi Desert . . I've seen this happen before . . . So sell the domain, grab a bunch of water, malaria medicine and bandages and get over there as fast a possible too help out . . You can do that on yer vacation and shoot yer new canon 20D while you're there

over and out -bmb

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02-05-2006, 01:30 PM	#1
s9ann0 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 4,873	ethical domain name problem! Ok say maybe 4 years ago you helped register a nice domain that is worth good money for someone. This means you have access to the account holding the name and control over it. Say this perons then dissapeared and over a period of years you had been paying for the name whilst making every effort to contact them without any luck. It looks like they had basically abandenned the site and the internet totally and dissapeared. So the domain again needs renewing and paying for or it is going to go on-hold and eventually someone else will grab. What would you do? do you let it go to on-hold or would you use your access to pay for the domain and transfer it to yourself? help!

02-05-2006, 01:32 PM	#2
BoyAlley So Fucking Gay Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19,714	I would give it to me if I were you, so you're not faced with such an ethical dilemma. Last edited by BoyAlley; 02-05-2006 at 01:33 PM..

02-05-2006, 01:32 PM	#3
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	It's yours come on now. __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

02-05-2006, 01:33 PM	#4
Deputy Chief Command Deputy Chief Command Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,482	its yours after so many years of YOU paying the renewal and them not claiming there UNPhahaha196;ID domain makes it years I think it is 100% legal and ethical to make it yours if it was truely after years, and if you were truely the one paying for the renewal without the "true" owners ever trying to get a hold of "their" domain .......... __________________

02-05-2006, 01:33 PM	#5
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	honestly, it looks like he has no desire for the domain name, and hes not responded to being contacted. the domain is up for grabs.

02-05-2006, 01:34 PM	#6
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	If you feel guilty, register it under a different name and if the person ever contacts you tell them you let it expire. They have no claim on it if you have been paying the renewals. I wish I had friends like you. __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

02-05-2006, 01:34 PM	#7
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	take it... ! __________________ M&A Queen

02-05-2006, 01:43 PM	#8
Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	I don't see a moral dilemma, although there's the possibility of a legal one in the future. __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

02-05-2006, 01:45 PM	#9
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	it depends how much effort u put in contacting the disappeared person i'd say __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

02-05-2006, 01:53 PM	#10
s9ann0 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 4,873	I have tried several emails for years taken from whois and tracking down old sites. I've tried all phone numbers on domains and sites, I tried searching names on google, contacting ISP's for info and to pass message and everything I could think of short of hiring a private detective to track this guy down over about 3 years. We are talking about a domain people have been trying to contact him to offer low five figure sum for.

02-05-2006, 01:54 PM	#11
x3guide Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: lake titicaca Posts: 735	Is the domain currently in use? As in - does it generate money for anyone. If not, there's no issue at all. Just take it. But exactly how, if there's no active site on it, is it "worth a lot of money" as you said? __________________ Shomer fuckin shabbas

02-05-2006, 01:55 PM	#12
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	once a thief, always a thief no doubt i would get it

02-05-2006, 02:11 PM	#16
wargames Kliris Join Date: May 2003 Location: ca Posts: 10,423	take the name asap __________________ ICQ 212-115-582 Email Steve at Vas Media Group .com

02-05-2006, 03:40 PM	#17
s9ann0 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 4,873	I think rather than letting it go to on-hold I will pay for and transfer the name but I want to make it a matter if public record here on GFY that if Bigtony shows up he can have the name back. and if anyone knows who i am talking about please put him in touch

02-05-2006, 04:28 PM	#18
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	just take it....

02-05-2006, 04:32 PM	#19
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	why are you asking stupid questions? Take it, in the worst case you can just give it back to him... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

02-05-2006, 05:17 PM	#21
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	Hmm... I would let it expire and go on hold. Then on the very last day before the registrar releases it, pay the extra fee to get it back. This pretty much proves that he didn't want it.

02-05-2006, 09:42 PM	#23
Saeun So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 299	Cough up the $8, you cheap bastard.

02-05-2006, 11:14 PM	#24
The Sultan Of Smut Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,325	I don't see the ethical problem here.

02-06-2006, 12:32 AM	#26
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	if you've paid for it for 5 years and he hasn't replied to any of your emails then..... seriously.. half a decade of paying the bills makes it yours. If he wanted it that much he'd be trying to get it off you and paying his own bills.

02-06-2006, 12:34 AM	#27
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	you'd be doing him a favour really.. if it goes on hold he's lost it forever to some dom vulture. This way if he ever asks about it he can get some compensation.

02-06-2006, 12:48 AM	#28
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02-06-2006, 01:44 PM	#29
Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	I think there are many examples that would support you taking the name. It's abandoned property. __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

02-06-2006, 01:48 PM	#30
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02-06-2006, 01:53 PM	#31
Grapesoda So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 46,238	Sounds to me like they have amnesia and are wondering around lost in the Nairobi Desert . . I've seen this happen before . . . So sell the domain, grab a bunch of water, malaria medicine and bandages and get over there as fast a possible too help out . . You can do that on yer vacation and shoot yer new canon 20D while you're there over and out -bmb