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jjjay

02-03-2006 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider Ninja

http://perl.rjenk.com/ :thumbsup

bookmarked. thanks

anything like this for php?

also considering learning windows programming, but not sure what's best to start with?

Spider Ninja

02-03-2006 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FredIsMe

Not too shabby :thumbsup

Thanks bro, for things you can't find in the cookbook, check comp.lang.perl.misc but, they can be very rough on newcomers, so have a thick skin if you post.

Spider Ninja

02-03-2006 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jjjay

bookmarked. thanks

anything like this for php?

also considering learning windows programming, but not sure what's best to start with?

yeah...that's massive :winkwink: I found the php help that comes when you download it to your pc very good.

Wish I knew Windows Programming and never did learn C...:( Oh well, Perl/PHP still makes me happy :winkwink:

High Plains Drifter

02-03-2006 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider Ninja

hey yo...bump for sacto :thumbsup I used to live on H Street downtown.

Sorry...off topic...carry on :winkwink:

:thumbsup nice, I just got here last week... I don't know H Street from Preperation H at this point...

studiocritic

02-03-2006 11:44 AM

if you understand programming basics, the php.net manual will more than suffice.

i learned vb for windows development a decade before i ever tried php, and while they're not similar at all, you learn core skills like if-then-else, loops, etc.

check out phpriot.com, devshed.com, etc.

stay away from php books, i havent seen a single one that didnt teach people to code HORRIBLY wrong.

montythestrange

02-03-2006 11:48 AM

started programming as a hobby -- tried learning C on my own (Learn to program C in 21 days -- yeah, right)... and then i got into php with books and online resources. I didn't fully understand the benefits of OOP until i learned the principals in college, and didn't use a debugger or profiler until I went to college -- now I can't really live without them :)

Spider Ninja

02-03-2006 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by skinnywussy

:thumbsup nice, I just got here last week... I don't know H Street from Preperation H at this point...

I love Sacto, even when it is super hot, you still catch the delta breezes at night. I know adult.com operates out of there. Plus only 80 minutes to SF :winkwink:

xroach

02-03-2006 11:56 AM

it all started with the gwbasic 3.3 manual that came with my first pc when i was a kid...

woj	02-03-2006 11:56 AM

combination of self taught/school/hobby...

High Plains Drifter

02-03-2006 12:19 PM

The greatest programming languages OF ALL TIME

1. C (stood the test of time, still the go-to language for mission critical firmware and software)
2. C++ (desktop application language of choice)
3. php/perl (the web is built on these)
4. Java (had a good run but I think its coming to an end)
5. C# (new kid on the block that makes programming way too easy... what java should have been... [go mono!])
6. Assembly (sometimes you need really fine control)
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.
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743. Visual Basic (great for weekend warriors)

woj	02-03-2006 12:20 PM

50 programmers....

Spider Ninja

02-03-2006 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by skinnywussy

Got to toss in UNIX as a beautiful platform :thumbsup

Spider Ninja

02-03-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

50 programmers....

damn Woj, you're fast :winkwink:

Odie	02-03-2006 12:24 PM

I went to school and gota degreee in programming and then taught myself everything else...I still suck at it tho lol...

Baker Rd

02-03-2006 12:32 PM

Started as a hobby making servers, mass mailers, punters, scrollers, crackers, spammers, etc... for AOL. Learned visual basic before HTML.

psili

02-03-2006 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skinnywussy

The greatest programming languages OF ALL TIME

4. Java (had a good run but I think its coming to an end)

Nah man. I just started to teach myself Java. Don't say that ^^^

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Originally Posted by from an article, april 2005

# Java today is driving more than $100 billion of business annually.
# Java mobile game market is estimated to be around $3 billion.
# Seven out of 10 wireless applications currently under constructions will use Java technology runtime environment.
# On the enterprise side, $2.2 billion in Java application server and $110 billion in related IT spendings are happening, .
# Today, globally over 4.5 million software developers work on Java.
# Along with that, 100 carrier deployments and 579 million phones are on this platform.

High Plains Drifter

02-03-2006 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by psili

Nah man. I just started to teach myself Java. Don't say that ^^^

Hopefully you're right. But Java development took a huge hit when Bill Joy left Sun and it really hasn't recovered. Combine that with never really getting their resource usage and portability under control, and I think those statistics are based more on momentum then anything else.

koreanbbque

02-03-2006 01:39 PM

a blend of

1) comp sci classes from college, programming in C/C++.
2) self taught everything for web programming in perl
( easy to learn perl when you have C/C++ base to go off )

never did take a java class,but after my last year in college, all courses moved from C++ to java. *shrug*

drjones

02-03-2006 02:15 PM

Also, I've already pimped this site once on GFY but its helpful and I use it all the time: check out http://safari.oreilly.com/

If you can afford to shell out 20 bux a month its so fucking worth it

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