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  • Azlord
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2003
    • 2651

    #1

    Trials or No Trials? Resellers and Sposors opinions wanted!

    Well, I have been seen threads about trials, limted trials etc. What's the general vote? Do you like trials, are they making you more money? Or is it just a easy way for surfers to get all your content?
  • vvq
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2004
    • 2732

    #2
    programs these days need trials. unless you're offering extremely good solo girl sites, or other very very very micro niche specific type sites.

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    • madawgz
      8.8.8.8
      • Mar 2006
      • 30509

      #3
      trials always work the best!
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      • rick-e
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Nov 2005
        • 19935

        #4
        Originally posted by madawgz
        trials always work the best!
        you got 90+ posts a day

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        • Sosa
          In Tushy Land
          • Oct 2002
          • 40149

          #5
          as an affiliate I try not to push sponsors that have trials and only pay $2-3 on that trial. I have seen most of thsoe not convert into a rebill so I make a whole $2-3... I prefer the 50/60 or 60/60 revshare even if it is trial or a full month sale.

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          • Azlord
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2003
            • 2651

            #6
            Originally posted by Sosa
            as an affiliate I try not to push sponsors that have trials and only pay $2-3 on that trial. I have seen most of thsoe not convert into a rebill so I make a whole $2-3... I prefer the 50/60 or 60/60 revshare even if it is trial or a full month sale.
            So you like the trials only if it's 50% of the full membership, or PPS perhaps?

            Thanks for the input. Keep it coming ;-)

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            • Far-L
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 6065

              #7
              We do trials and convert the traffic consistently between 28% and 35% of the time overall - our processor DHD tells us we have the best conversions of all the sites using their gateway. That is fact - not typical sponsor hype.

              Surfers can't steal our movie content - our proprietary video security has even earned respect on hacker boards... but I am not sure that is the reason for our conversions or retention. I chalk it up more so to our multiple daily updates and customer service.
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              • Azlord
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2003
                • 2651

                #8
                Originally posted by Far-L
                We do trials and convert the traffic consistently between 28% and 35% of the time overall - our processor DHD tells us we have the best conversions of all the sites using their gateway. That is fact - not typical sponsor hype.

                Surfers can't steal our movie content - our proprietary video security has even earned respect on hacker boards... but I am not sure that is the reason for our conversions or retention. I chalk it up more so to our multiple daily updates and customer service.
                Are your multiple daily updates all exclusive shit? Or are you mixing exclusive and non-exclusive throughout the week?

                Thanks for the comment.

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                • Pornwolf
                  Drunk and Unruly
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 22712

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Far-L
                  We do trials and convert the traffic consistently between 28% and 35% of the time overall - our processor DHD tells us we have the best conversions of all the sites using their gateway. That is fact - not typical sponsor hype.

                  Surfers can't steal our movie content - our proprietary video security has even earned respect on hacker boards... but I am not sure that is the reason for our conversions or retention. I chalk it up more so to our multiple daily updates and customer service.
                  Very interesting Far-L. I can't even imagine the amount of Amateur surfers you have typing in your site daily. It must be huge.
                  I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                  Webair, bitches.

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                  • Karupted Charles
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 1662

                    #10
                    Originally posted by vvq
                    programs these days need trials. unless you're offering extremely good solo girl sites, or other very very very micro niche specific type sites.
                    So not true. We do not, have not and will not offer trials. With the amount of content we offer we are not worried about site rippers believe me. Its plain and simple psychology.


                    The male body does not have enough blood to think with both its heads at the same time. Horny guys surf around and find a girl they just have to see more of. They eventually decide to dig in the wallet and pay to get what they want.

                    Once inside they jerk off and life is grand. The blood then leaves the penis and flows back to the brain. They realize they just paid for what they could get for free and know if they cancel now they only get charged a few dollars.

                    Now comes the no trial option. They are still so horny they need to see the girl and they overcome the $30 instead of $3 because it?s what they want when the dick is in control. They get in jerk off and feel bad after just like the trial. However they already paid for 30 days so they don?t cancel right away. Instead a week/day goes buy and sure enough they get horny again. They think hmm I just paid for this site let me surf around. Now they find 10 more models they love they jerk off and are happy again. More time passes and they still surf around. Now they realize what they bought and they don?t feel ripped off anymore. They are excited about the updates and can?t wait to get home to the computer. Yet again there is more to enjoy and they are hooked.

                    Think of it this way. A trial is a one night stand. When you meet her in the club you end up paying for drinks dinners and all sorts of shit that?s when you?re willing to open the wallet before you get what you want. Once you bang the bitch you really don?t ever want to see her again and you fell a bit dirty for sleeping with such a whore.

                    A membership is like a marriage yeah you hate to pay the dues but you got a great piece of ass you can get when you want it and you?re comfortable with what you know.


                    ----edited for spelling
                    Last edited by Karupted Charles; 04-21-2006, 01:14 PM.
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                    • RRRED
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 6754

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SPW Guru
                      So not true. We do not, have not and will not offer trials. With the amount of content we offer we are not worried about site rippers believe me. Its plain and simple psychology.


                      The male body does not have enough blood to think with both its heads at the same time. Horny guys surf around and find a girl they just have to see more of. They eventually decide to dig in the wallet and pay to get what they want.

                      Once inside they jerk off and life is grand. The blood then leaves the penis and flows back to the brain. They realize they just paid for what they could get for free and know if they cancel now they only get charged a few dollars.

                      Now comes the no trial option. They are still so horny they need to see the girl and they overcome the $30 instead of $3 because it?s what they want when the dick is in control. They get in jerk off and feel bad after just like the trial. However they already paid for 30 days so they don?t cancel right away. Instead a week/day goes buy and sure enough they get horny again. They think hmm I just paid for this site let me surf around. Now they find 10 more models they love they jerk off and are happy again. More time passes and they still surf around. Now they realize what they bought and they don?t feel ripped off anymore. They are excited about the updates and can?t wait to get home to the computer. Yet again there is more to enjoy and they are hooked.

                      Think of it this way. A trial is a one night stand. When you meet her in the club you end up paying for drinks dinners and all sorts of shit that?s when you?re willing to open the wallet before you get what you want. Once you bang the bitch you really don?t ever want to see her again and you fell a bit dirty for sleeping with such a whore.

                      A membership is like a marriage yeah you hate to pay the dues but you got a great piece of ass you can get when you want it and you?re comfortable with what you know.


                      ----edited for spelling

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                      • tyler.
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 1653

                        #12
                        trials for sure

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                        • SiMpLe
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 3221

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SPW Guru
                          So not true. We do not, have not and will not offer trials. With the amount of content we offer we are not worried about site rippers believe me. Its plain and simple psychology.


                          The male body does not have enough blood to think with both its heads at the same time. Horny guys surf around and find a girl they just have to see more of. They eventually decide to dig in the wallet and pay to get what they want.

                          Once inside they jerk off and life is grand. The blood then leaves the penis and flows back to the brain. They realize they just paid for what they could get for free and know if they cancel now they only get charged a few dollars.

                          Now comes the no trial option. They are still so horny they need to see the girl and they overcome the $30 instead of $3 because it?s what they want when the dick is in control. They get in jerk off and feel bad after just like the trial. However they already paid for 30 days so they don?t cancel right away. Instead a week/day goes buy and sure enough they get horny again. They think hmm I just paid for this site let me surf around. Now they find 10 more models they love they jerk off and are happy again. More time passes and they still surf around. Now they realize what they bought and they don?t feel ripped off anymore. They are excited about the updates and can?t wait to get home to the computer. Yet again there is more to enjoy and they are hooked.

                          Think of it this way. A trial is a one night stand. When you meet her in the club you end up paying for drinks dinners and all sorts of shit that?s when you?re willing to open the wallet before you get what you want. Once you bang the bitch you really don?t ever want to see her again and you fell a bit dirty for sleeping with such a whore.

                          A membership is like a marriage yeah you hate to pay the dues but you got a great piece of ass you can get when you want it and you?re comfortable with what you know.


                          ----edited for spelling

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                          • Pornwolf
                            Drunk and Unruly
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 22712

                            #14
                            My highest converting sites has no trials @ a $29.95 a month pricepoint. It crushes the trial having sites from most sponsors. CRUSHES THEM.
                            I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                            Webair, bitches.

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                            • Matt_WildCash
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1699

                              #15
                              Trials = good conversions and average recurring
                              Full memberships only = bad conversions but great recurring

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                              • Far-L
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2002
                                • 6065

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                Very interesting Far-L. I can't even imagine the amount of Amateur surfers you have typing in your site daily. It must be huge.
                                Actually it is good but by no means huge. We really don't have many webmasters now but we were also the number one converting and retaining site in our CE days when there were 15000 plus webmasters throwing traffic at us.

                                We do well off our brand recognition for type-in traffic generated by Spice Channel which promotes our brand, our dvd advertising, etc. However, If I told you what our self generated type-in converted at people would think I was full of hype which we all know is spelled "CRAP" backwards.
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                                • Blazing
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2001
                                  • 1665

                                  #17
                                  We DO NOT offer trials and our top converting sites convert all day long at 1:500 on full monly signups.

                                  IMHO.. if the Full Monthly transactions convert at better than 1:700 from ALL traffic.. ( the good, the bad and the ugly ) then there isnt any need for a trial!!

                                  Come check us out..

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                                  • beemk
                                    CLICK HERE
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 20829

                                    #18
                                    pps = trials
                                    revshare = full joins

                                    Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                    My highest converting sites has no trials @ a $29.95 a month pricepoint. It crushes the trial having sites from most sponsors. CRUSHES THEM.
                                    i promote a site that does the exact same. wonder if its the same site, its the same price. if they went to trials i would probably make a lot less $ on revshare.
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                                    • Karupted Charles
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 1662

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by beemk
                                      pps = trials
                                      revshare = full joins


                                      i promote a site that does the exact same. wonder if its the same site, its the same price. if they went to trials i would probably make a lot less $ on revshare.

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                                      • Far-L
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 6065

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Azlord
                                        Are your multiple daily updates all exclusive shit? Or are you mixing exclusive and non-exclusive throughout the week?

                                        Thanks for the comment.
                                        All our stuff is completely exclusive. We sit on over 23 years of amateur content - Homegrown Video was literally the first distributor of "homemade porn".

                                        But we just add the old stuff for the fans that have literally been with us for over 20 years and who want to see their old faves in un-cut remastered glory... Now we also have award winning series like "Deepthroat Virgins", "Natural Bush", "Amateur Anal Attempts" "Creampie Club" "Horny Over 40" "College Student Bodies" "Cherries" (barely legal) "Sex Kittens" (barely legal lez) "Eye Contact" (pov bj) "Latina Cherries" "Housewives Unleashed" "Horny Over 40", and a few more...

                                        We put out 6 to 8 titles per month with 5 to 6 scenes per 90min running time. Most of these are long running series that are also very deep in content.

                                        I really don't know any other company that comes close in this regard so that is obviously a selling point.
                                        HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                                        Contact
                                        - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                                        Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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                                        • SCORE Ralph
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 2090

                                          #21
                                          What beemk said... we offer trials, monthly, and 3 month subs. Of course, trials reel in the most subs, 3 months bring in the most $ per transaction, but monthly subs make the most $ per sub + rebills.
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                                          • RRRED
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 6754

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by aspwm
                                            What beemk said... we offer trials, monthly, and 3 month subs. Of course, trials reel in the most subs, 3 months bring in the most $ per transaction, but monthly subs make the most $ per sub + rebills.

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                                            • Azlord
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2003
                                              • 2651

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Far-L
                                              All our stuff is completely exclusive. We sit on over 23 years of amateur content - Homegrown Video was literally the first distributor of "homemade porn".

                                              But we just add the old stuff for the fans that have literally been with us for over 20 years and who want to see their old faves in un-cut remastered glory... Now we also have award winning series like "Deepthroat Virgins", "Natural Bush", "Amateur Anal Attempts" "Creampie Club" "Horny Over 40" "College Student Bodies" "Cherries" (barely legal) "Sex Kittens" (barely legal lez) "Eye Contact" (pov bj) "Latina Cherries" "Housewives Unleashed" "Horny Over 40", and a few more...

                                              We put out 6 to 8 titles per month with 5 to 6 scenes per 90min running time. Most of these are long running series that are also very deep in content.

                                              I really don't know any other company that comes close in this regard so that is obviously a selling point.
                                              Thanks for the comments. I am soaking in as much knowledge as I can from this thread.

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                                              • Far-L
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2002
                                                • 6065

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Azlord
                                                Thanks for the comments. I am soaking in as much knowledge as I can from this thread.
                                                Well... unfortunately it is what I am not saying in this thread that is probably the most telling... you only see hints about what our retention is like.

                                                But if you knew how long we held off from offering recurring rev to webmasters that would give you a better idea...
                                                HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
                                                Contact
                                                - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl
                                                Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

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                                                • Paparazzi
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                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 3488

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by beemk
                                                  pps = trials
                                                  revshare = full joins
                                                  I agree

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                                                  • bigdog
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                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 6964

                                                    #26
                                                    I prefer trials, trials usally convert way better

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