TGPs that are hotlinking movies

[vidsweb]

OK, so it used to be just other movie gallery makers that would link to the movies on your website, but lately I've noticed a growing trend of people who build TGPs that do nothing more than put up an entire page of links that are hotlinked to someone elses movies.

Check out this one:

http://www.phatforums.com/BENAONTOP/...16/26815.shtml

and this one:

http://www21.brinkster.com/cok99/body.asp


what the fuck can we do about this scum? honest webmasters are getting fucked because of these assholes....lets fuck them up!

[hyper]

just write to brinkster that they aRE HOTLINKING TO YOUR SITE

[Brian911]

.HTACCESS + a simple script solution

nuff said

[BadKarma]

There was a previous thread that talked about stopping hotlinking altogether using .HTACCESS files. can't remember the thread, but I bet if you seached on google for .htaccess you would come up with something.

[vidsweb]

.htaccess does not work with movies

[funkmaster]

".HTACCESS + a simple script solution"

... smartass, this won´t work with movies !!

LOL, vidsweb you must have beaten me by 2 seconds ... but reading through that post again ... it also reads "simple script sollution" ... so whatever he means by that ... it may work ??

[Babaganoosh]

Originally posted by Brian911
.HTACCESS + a simple script solution

nuff said

.htaccess won't fix the movie hotlinkers. Not sure if it's only certain video players or not. Something I have been messing with is importing videos into flash. They can then be protected via .htaccess.

[hyper]

there was a thread about placing a cookie that allows people from the site to view the movies, but disallows hotlinkers

[vidsweb]

We need some way of being able to submit movie galleries to TGPs, yet protect the movies from hotlinkers.

If you use any javascript or cgi or flash in your gallery I doubt any TGPs would list you.

[funkmaster]

flash/coockies will work ,but there is only ONE sollution to stop those hotlinking bastards by 100%. you will have to rename the location of your movies frequently, like every 30 minutes or so ... yes, a script can do this ...

[vidsweb]

If you make a gallery that uses cookies, it would probably be rejected by the TGPs when you submit it

[quiet]

Originally posted by Brian911
.HTACCESS + a simple script solution

nuff said

wrong. videos (like avi and mpeg) can't be protected by htaccess when viewed with wmp (due to referrer issues).

in general, using a script to rotate file names is one solution.

specifically with phatforums - just email the guy who runs the place. we've had massive hotlinking from that place over the past year, but he is a good guy and has shut down anyone who has stole from us.

also, you can ask him to add your domain to his 'blacklist' so that as far as posters to any of the forums go, it becomes impossible for you domain to be used. he set this up for us, and it has really slowed theft from phatforums.

[hyper]

well i guess there needs to be a common solution for tgp owners and submitters to come to such as linking the thumb to a html page embedded with the movie and using the cookie solution.

[Babaganoosh]

Flash is almost a perfect solution. It absolutely can not be hotlinked and there is no need to move the flash files around. The only drawback is that people will have to have the latest flash player which is still relatively new. I have been experimenting with it for a while and it seems like a good solution.

[vidsweb]

do TGPs accept galleries with flash movies?

[LoveAsianChicks]

I suggest you use the script that renames the files, then set your 404 to a page which opens 10 consoles. Each of those consoles is chained to 5 more.

the hotlinker would need to rename his his links all time, or the surfers are going through absolute shit. All his traffic will leave.

The hotlinker should at least link to the actual gallery, that way the person who submitted the gallery gets some traffic to their sponsors.
Its just mean to link directing to someone elses movies.

[vidsweb]

A script would change the HTML in the page wouldn't it?

If you change the HTML on your page then TGPs will ban you.

[funkmaster]

"If you change the HTML on your page then TGPs will ban you."

... now that´s too bad !!

[FlyingIguana]

what if u used php to grab the movie?

[SR]

Those hotlinker are lame assholes for sure.
And I think so too that a script to change the filename will get you deleted by the bots some tgp's use.
Best is to just e-mail the siteowner.
I mailed phatforums a while ago when they hotlinked movies from us and he banned my domain within a few hours.

[vidsweb]

Damn, this industry sure attracts the scum of the earth. I've found more TGP type sites like that....fuck I hope this isn't a growing trend.

[StupidNewbie]

http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/2840

store them in a DB as a long blob file and stream them out if possible

[vidsweb]

What the hell is a "blob" file?

[StupidNewbie]

binary large object, it's that largest storage unit inside of databases. I'm assuming you have a paid host with access to a database such as MySQL or Msql. Actually for the larger movies Oracle of Progress would be optimal for performance and reliability seeing as how streaming from a remote host can be bandwidth intensive.

[GettingPorn]

Saw this somewhere:


THE PROBLEM WITH MOVIE & FLASH FILES


There seems to be problem protecting movie images and particularly .swf (flash).
Some webmasters say they have to embed their mpegs and flash files and not use the
<img scr> tag.

It is said that there is not yet a perfect solution to this, but the problems are caused because movie players use java and do not send headers and so the server does not track them. But, as a solution, most of the time the following will help:

Add this rule to your .htaccess file in your movie directory:
RewriteEngine on
RewriteOptions inherit
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://([a-z0-9-]+\.)*yourdomain.com/ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_COOKIE} !(^|(.+;)*)id=valid(;.*|$)
RewriteRule /*$ http://www.yourdomain.com/ [L,R]

Or add this one
RewriteEngine on
RewriteOptions inherit
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://yourIPaddress/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.yoursite.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_COOKIE} !(^|(.+;)*)id=valid(;.*|$)
RewriteRule /*$ http://www.yoursite.com [L,R]


Place the cookie script below between the <head> </head> HTML section of the index.html page of the aria where your movie/flash files are. It must be in the first page the users go through to reach the files; The entry page. The cookie duration time is set to 4 hours; change it, if you like.

As the users must login every time they come to your site with your .htaccess protection, and they'd get a cookie anyway, the cookie here only acts as a guard against hotlinkers. The server will look for a cookie every time anyone tries to access anything within this directory, and so they must login first to see the mpeg (no stopping pass-sharing or hackers, remember) but it does stop your files being hotlinked to be viewed from other sites. You must use a cookie to prevent hotlinking of your movies.


<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="javascript">
// Calculate the expiration date
var expires = new Date ();
expires.setTime(expires.getTime() + 1 * 60 * 60 * 1000);
document.cookie = "id=valid; path=/" + "; expires=" + expires.toGMTString();
</SCRIPT>

Only the above combination of .htaccess and cookie will prevent the hotlinkers from cutting and pasting URL's to bypass the sole '.htaccess' hotlinking protection. You may have to place the movies is a seperate directory as the htaccess code may not work along side the other codes in your htaccess file.

[m0rph3us]

hey GettingPorn, what is the code we're supposed to put on the HTML page ? I think the board didn't let you add it... you have to use the [code tag (close the tag) to show javascript, php etc..