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Old 04-15-2002, 10:08 PM   #1
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:mad worthless affiliate for a fucking newbie

I might be a little new to the profession of smut peddling but I'm fucking pissed. When I decided to start up about a month ago I had a horrible time finding a good affiliate that would pay per email. FEbucks seemed to have the best conversions and payouts so I made galleries, bought content, and submitted manually like fucking crazy. All was great until today when all of my statistics were reset to zero. No message, no mail, and i most certainly wasn't spamming or doing other gay shit so what the fuck? Am I just like my name say a Stupid fucking newbie who sent them loads of traffic all for nothing? I know I generate no where near as much as some of the old heads in this game but what the fuck, a dollar is a hell of a lot more important to me then a thousand is to you guys. What should I do now that they reset my stats and signups just go to a regular job and try to pay off some server bills, the content, and what ever else I put into it? Fuck them, Fuck FEBucks, and fuck me for not consulting someone important. just another flame from a ignorant newbie who's anxiously awaiting some advice.
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:12 PM   #2
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forgot to mention im still ranked, though it might be very very low how the fuck could i be ranked if they are saying I sent zero visitors to them.

Based on Yesterdays Totals #666

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Old 04-15-2002, 10:14 PM   #4
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LoL, it's April 16 in some time zones, I was just assuming we were starting a new pay period. Stats being per pay period, it would make sense for stuff to be all zeros again....
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:21 PM   #5
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LoL, it's April 16 in some time zones, I was just assuming we were starting a new pay period. Stats being per pay period, it would make sense for stuff to be all zeros again....
Just what I was thinking, and a typical newbie mistake as well. At any rate, temper tantrums will get him nowhere. Also, it leaves a bad taste in people's mouths when someone's first assumption is that the reason they are having a problem is that the other party is cheating, when there are lots of other possible explanations.
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:23 PM   #6
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NO shit dude, welcome to the second pay period of the month.

The hawg bros. are solid and great guys, no way the y would fuck you over.
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:26 PM   #7
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:30 PM   #8
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:34 PM   #9
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:36 PM   #10
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new pay period. hrm. well doesnt that make me look like a StupidFuckingNewbie perhaps i'll register again under that name. please excuse the tantrum .. god i don't even want to talk anymore i'm so embarrased. thanks for the kick in the ass though all who posted, i've got a hell of a long way to go.
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:46 PM   #11
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almost seems phony...still hilarious tho
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:50 PM   #12
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hey man, at least you had the balls to show your face again
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:51 PM   #13
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wow...someone change his fuckin diaper...or maybe another webmaster trying to test FEbucks undercover??
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:55 PM   #14
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no, unfortunatly it isnt phony. in fact i don't even think i can ask a serious question here without being laughed at. i have nill experience with this or business in general but im going to keep posting until i get ignored or banned which ever comes first.
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:56 PM   #15
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you where all newbies at one time. lol This is free entertainment!
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:58 PM   #16
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:08 PM   #17
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i don't even think i can ask a serious question here without being laughed at.
welcome to gfy, or should i say "GO FUCK YOURSELF"

nothing is taken seriously here, you'll get used to it,
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:21 PM   #18
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just a tip though,, why promote Freeenzine on a tgp gallery? i find that in order to make $35 which normal per sign up,,, then you will have to convert say a good ratio of 1:9,, then send like 315 unique hits to freeenzine,, when you could do better with a per sign up with a good conversion of 1:150,,,,

blah blah,, sorry its late i am going to bed
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:22 PM   #19
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Yeah, the hawg bros. are like fucking gods in my opinion
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:23 PM   #20
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You should take this as a sign and get ourt of the porno biz.
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:27 PM   #21
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i have nill experience with this or business in general ...
Despite your lack of experience, with your ability to calmly and cooly manage a crisis, you're destined for success.
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when you could do better with a per sign up with a good conversion of 1:150
I been working at this for a coupla months now and I've had no luck finding a sponsor with thosse ratios. Best I've found so far is about 1:500 on a consistent basis.

Presumably much of this is my lack of skill in selling with my galleries, but still there it is.
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:42 PM   #23
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You know if you guys would stop telling all these newbies the shit most of us learned the hard way there'd be more nuts for the rest of us squirrells.
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:46 PM   #24
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Hahaha this is so funny

I knew it right away when I read his first 5 lines
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Old 04-16-2002, 12:09 AM   #25
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Based on Yesterdays Totals #666

my favorite number

hey, at least you weren't spamming ;)))
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Old 04-16-2002, 12:17 AM   #26
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Damn, it amazes me how most of you guys are being dickheads with newbies....
where is the good ol' time when newbies were taken by the hand and helped and not laughed about?
it seems that the the "new" webmasters generation, those who started like 2 years ago are really being arrogant with newbies do they think they are so clever?...

it sucks to see that the average webmaster mentality has changed so much in the past two years...

the last two years i've seen hundreds of new names comming in the biz from nowhere, some are still humble but some others are just being playing the big guys and turning down other newbies.

guys, you should go into a deep introspection and try to look at yourselves from outside !
stop thinking that you know better just because you started in the biz one week before the other guy

this is just my rant of the day....
may the dollars flow upon you
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Old 04-16-2002, 12:42 AM   #27
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Well said Sabai, I would try to add something to that....but you covered it all very well
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Old 04-16-2002, 01:04 AM   #28
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SABAI well done, everyone starts out as a newbie. Why do we bash people who are just in the painful learning process. I am sure allot of us at one time have been cheated by sponsors. (It really sucks) I still remember cyberthrill and how many were cheated and how many were hurt.

He made a simple mistake. I see allot of people cry here when they find think they are cheated. It's not that bad, it helps warn all of use of potential scams.

He made a mistake, leave the poor guy alone.
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Forgot to mention Xpics =) I am sure the oldschool people remember them ^-^
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SABAI well done, everyone starts out as a newbie. Why do we bash people who are just in the painful learning process.
It's called F..E..A..R... Newbies represent a threat to these stale old fuckers income, so they want to discourage 'em from getting into the biz...

Just natural selection working its magic...
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Welcome StupidNewbie, and don't forget to take puctures while you Go Fuck Yourself

As everyone said, we were all newbies at one stage (hell, in some areas I'm still a newbie), and your mistake isn't as bad as the mistakes some others have made. I made some massive booboos when I was just getting started as well, it's all part of the process, don't let it get you down.
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Old 04-16-2002, 02:23 AM   #32
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My ? would be why does everyone come here and start bitching about stats... Don't they contact the sponsor first! Sly_RJ nailed it! But the funny shit is he was so fucking heated! I bet his stomach was up in his throat when he saw all those ZEROS after all that hard word and money spent !

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Damn, it amazes me how most of you guys are being dickheads with newbies....
where is the good ol' time when newbies were taken by the hand and helped and not laughed about?
it seems that the the "new" webmasters generation, those who started like 2 years ago are really being arrogant with newbies do they think they are so clever?...

it sucks to see that the average webmaster mentality has changed so much in the past two years...

the last two years i've seen hundreds of new names comming in the biz from nowhere, some are still humble but some others are just being playing the big guys and turning down other newbies.

guys, you should go into a deep introspection and try to look at yourselves from outside !
stop thinking that you know better just because you started in the biz one week before the other guy

this is just my rant of the day....
may the dollars flow upon you
I for one didn't give this guy shit, but i can understand why other people did. And quite frankly, he deserved it. Rather than making a sensible post quering his problem, he mouths off about one of the most respectable sponsors on the web! Hawg's cash kick ass. I'm sure if he hadda made a post saying.. "i can't see my stats, what's going on?"

The responses would have been a shitload more friendly, and he'd have gotten some good responses. Mouthing off ain't gonna get you shit.

But hey.. to StupidNewbie, mistakes happen. I ain't gonna hold it against you. Just so long as you learn something from this. Don't mouth off! Best advice.. contact the sponsor with a calm and mature email, enquiring about the situation. If you get no reply, or the reply is way off tangent and doesn't deal with the problem at all.. then, i dare say, nobody would mind if you had a big ol' bitch about the sponsor.
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Damn, it amazes me how most of you guys are being dickheads with newbies....
where is the good ol' time when newbies were taken by the hand and helped and not laughed about?

spoon-fed-newbies.com

there's the answer

ltrz ya bastards
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You know if you guys would stop telling all these newbies the shit most of us learned the hard way there'd be more nuts for the rest of us squirrells.
a-men dewd, we dont need to be cutting our own throats here.
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you really are a fucking stupid newbie!
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Funny as hell, welcome to the board newbie your start is good
although you might think different about it. We all make mistakes
that´s cool so move on, keep working and posting...you´ll get there!

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You know if you guys would stop telling all these newbies the shit most of us learned the hard way there'd be more nuts for the rest of us squirrells.

Exactly...there are already way to many now, we do not need anymore....
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Damn, it amazes me how most of you guys are being dickheads with newbies....
where is the good ol' time when newbies were taken by the hand and helped and not laughed about?
it seems that the the "new" webmasters generation, those who started like 2 years ago are really being arrogant with newbies do they think they are so clever?...

it sucks to see that the average webmaster mentality has changed so much in the past two years...

the last two years i've seen hundreds of new names comming in the biz from nowhere, some are still humble but some others are just being playing the big guys and turning down other newbies.

guys, you should go into a deep introspection and try to look at yourselves from outside !
stop thinking that you know better just because you started in the biz one week before the other guy

this is just my rant of the day....
may the dollars flow upon you
When was this... I was a newbie about 6 years ago (I think thats all there was then) and there was noone to show me the ropes and the people who could have were too busy making money to spoon-feed me a piece of that pie. You have to learn by trial and error. Get banned a few times... use a few shitty sponsors... learn how to convert shitty TGP traffic... etc... Those are all things you have to go through in order to learn your shit in this biz. I make good money now and I owe that all to the shit I have spent years learning. To me its the most valuable asset I have and aside from letting people know when there is something straight up shady going on I keep my secrets to myself.

On the other hand... if someone is making good honest mistakes and really trying I have no problem at least getting them pointed in the right direction but but they have to be putting a hell of a lot more effort into it than whining on a message board.

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No, no.. by all means keep your hard earned secrets to yourself. I don't want to be spoon-fed any excellent converting sponsers or given anything for free except advice. I can understand why people don't like newbies because we are stupid as shit, we're poor and we're stupid as shit. This is my first attempt at making any kind of bank in this profession and I'm working very hard at learning for myself. The only thing I ask from anyone on the board is to comment and correct me if I'm wrong about something which will happen rather frequently i assume. Every trade secret is meaningless unless I earn it myself honestly. I'd rather be able to manage my own with the knowledge and understanding of how the market works then have to hold hands with someone who has been around for a long time. Thank you for what ever advice you can give.
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dude, I give you credit for speaking out, and being humble
about being a newbie. I've run across too many that think
they already know it all...and they clearly don't.

Keep working and it'll fly for ya...It's the one's that come into
this thinking it's a piece of cake that suffer, die, and fall off the
face of the earth.

I, personally, think you're doing the right thing, coming here and
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I never meant to give out all your marketting secrets to newbies...
i too think there are too many...but on the other hand helping them a little with the dos and don'ts of the biz can make them successfull and will avoid cheaters and people getting banned because of a few bad apples...i think that a good 50% of what we call cheaters are just newbies who don't know that you have to read a TOS entirely... if people help them a little they will then get straight....mind that only the most serious will last more than 3 month in this biz....the first thing that we have to tell them is that there is no such thing as making a quick buck in this biz. we are not in 1994 anymore .when the banknotes where falling from the sky.
this is a full time job to make a descent living out of porn nowadays.
back then you could compile a list of urls where you could find uncensored pics and wo00ot, in one month you'd had a server overflow at your local freehost...

but still the most important:
when a newbie asks a question don't bash on him and put it down... if you don't want to answer, fine, just shut up and if you can be useful to the newbie without giving away your so great (geeez) marketting secrets then do so and you will have a new friend who will be faithfull to you as you helped him at start....

i remember being a newbie at the same time as a guy who now runs one of the most respected free and payhost...
i think that he is still faithfull to the people who showed him the way back then even if he now makes 10 times more money than them by now.....

just be human and stop being selfish....

just my thought of the evening
buddha bless you all

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Old 04-16-2002, 11:33 AM   #45
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buddha bless you all
Buddha's a cock sucking faggot.
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Old 04-16-2002, 11:49 AM   #46
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eroswebmaster,
what is your point and how old are you?

i think these kind of posts won't make you earn the gofuckyourself tshirt...

go back to more intelligent posts or i will have to tell your parents that you hang around porn

good nite and be kind with your kindergarten teacher tomorrow.


buddha bless you all (exept eroswebmaster. nah, bless him too i don't want to be as lowminded as him)
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Old 04-16-2002, 12:27 PM   #47
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You've learned your first lesson.......E-mail the sponsor before going to the boards.
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Old 04-16-2002, 12:49 PM   #48
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Have a beer and you will feel much better Newbie. An email might help also!!!
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