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  • EroticySteve
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    • Mar 2005
    • 4365

    #1

    With all of the options for cars why...

    With all of the options for cars why would someone buy a piece of poo like a Pontiac Sunfire or a Chevy Cavalier or a Dodge Neon?

    I'm not knocking small or inexpensive cars, just the particularly crappy, uninteresting ones that have no record of reliabilty, safety, style or good resale value.

    I have a friend. She could have bought herself a nice Honda Accord but with the money she buys some crappy Pontiac Sunfire.

    Makes me wonder.
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  • Screaming
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    • Feb 2004
    • 18972

    #2
    People can afford those cars.

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    • Manowar
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      • Dec 2003
      • 71528

      #3
      buying american helps the economy

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      • JFK
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        • Jan 2002
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        #4
        not everyone spends large on cars, they do have other priorities

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        • Sosa
          In Tushy Land
          • Oct 2002
          • 40149

          #5
          Those cars work well for high school and college students who don't have a ton of money.

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          • Peaches
            Old broad
            • Oct 2002
            • 13933

            #6
            I have a hard time believing an equally equiped Sunfire was the same price as an Accord......

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            • 26MLR
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2005
              • 401

              #7
              American cars suck period. No matter what class you're looking at the cars from Germany and Japan are better.

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              • EroticySteve
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2005
                • 4365

                #8
                I think nearly everyone missed my point, perhaps that's part of the problem.

                Addressing misconceptions as I saw them.

                1) Buying American helps the economy- I am not 100% sure the Sunfire is built in the US. I am sure that the Accord IS built in the US.

                2) Not everyone wants to spend on large cars- Hey I'm not knocking small cars. A Honda Civic, A Toyota Corrolla and similar are excellent small cars. Far better in every aspect than something crappy like a GM Sunfire.

                3)I should have pointed out that she was buying used. However, with her budget she should have had a comparably equpipped, similar year Honda Accord for her budget.

                4) People can afford these cars. - For $10k you can afford a lot of different cars used.
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                • EroticySteve
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                  • Mar 2005
                  • 4365

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 26MLR
                  American cars suck period. No matter what class you're looking at the cars from Germany and Japan are better.
                  I drive a German car that is made in America with primarily German parts.

                  I consider it to be more American than a Chrysler PT Cruiser that's built in Toluca Mexico.
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                  • SilentKnight
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 24818

                    #10
                    My wife had a Pontiac Sunfire GTX - she smashed it up and we got rid of it in favour of two Pontiac Pursuits.

                    The Pursuit is basically a remodel of the Sunfire (same drivetrain, chassis).

                    She liked her Sunfire cuz it was:

                    1) affordable
                    2) sporty
                    3) good on gas
                    4) had a ballsy 2.2litre
                    5) good for haulin' the kids around town

                    Everyone has different personal reasons for buying whatever vehicle. People have different priorities. Family-oriented folks have different practicalities than single folks.

                    Putting someone down for their choice of cars they drive is superficial, shallow and based on ignorance of that person's requirements.

                    edit - and I forgot to add she got a sweet employee discount on both the Sunfire and Pursuits through the company she works for.
                    Last edited by SilentKnight; 01-30-2006, 11:59 AM.

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                    • EroticySteve
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 4365

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SilentKnight
                      My wife had a Pontiac Sunfire GTX - she smashed it up and we got rid of it in favour of two Pontiac Pursuits.

                      The Pursuit is basically a remodel of the Sunfire (same drivetrain, chassis).

                      She liked her Sunfire cuz it was:

                      1) affordable
                      2) sporty
                      3) good on gas
                      4) had a ballsy 2.2litre
                      5) good for haulin' the kids around town

                      Everyone has different personal reasons for buying whatever vehicle. People have different priorities. Family-oriented folks have different practicalities than single folks.

                      Putting someone down for their choice of cars they drive is superficial, shallow and based on ignorance of that person's requirements.

                      edit - and I forgot to add she got a sweet employee discount on both the Sunfire and Pursuits through the company she works for.
                      More power to you, If you're comfortable with your purchase then that's great.

                      I wasn't putting anyone down per ser, but when it comes down to it, price, safety, reliability, warranty, there are a lot better options for the money.

                      A Honda Civic for example is a great little car, affordable, reliable, safe, efficient and it hold a great resale value.

                      You can't really make a comparison between the sunfire and a civic. Classwise yes, but the Civic seems to do everything better.

                      Again, this may just be my opinion, but it's also part of the sad reason why GM is in such bad shape.
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                      • Grapesoda
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 46238

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EroticySteve
                        I drive a German car that is made in America with primarily German parts.

                        I consider it to be more American than a Chrysler PT Cruiser that's built in Toluca Mexico.

                        the car I drive was bult in bowling green kentucky

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                        • EroticySteve
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 4365

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bmb
                          the car I drive was bult in bowling green kentucky
                          Many Japanese cars are American built and of a good portion of American components. Still much better than GM cars and Fords.

                          Mercedes Builds the R, ML and soon the GL vehicles here.

                          BMW builds the X5's and probably others too that I'm not sure about.
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                          • BlackCrayon
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                            • Jun 2003
                            • 19634

                            #14
                            people who know nothing about cars tend to by them on color, looks or 'cuteness'.
                            you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                            • polish_aristocrat
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 40377

                              #15
                              Originally posted by EroticySteve
                              A Honda Civic, A Toyota Corrolla and similar are excellent small cars.
                              in Europe this is a small car



                              or this




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                              • EroticySteve
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 4365

                                #16
                                Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                in Europe this is a small car



                                or this





                                I could dig either of those.
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                                • WME
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                                  • May 2004
                                  • 1005

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JFK
                                  not everyone spends large on cars, they do have other priorities
                                  Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                  people who know nothing about cars tend to by them on color, looks or 'cuteness'.
                                  somehow I see a relation between these two answer. since some people don't car much about cars, its just that they need one, they just buy whichever they find very convenient may it be according to the prize or the type/look of the car
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                                  • Mr Pheer
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 22083

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bmb
                                    the car I drive was bult in bowling green kentucky
                                    And what year is your corvette?

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                                    • Fresh
                                      • Mar 2005
                                      • 4920

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                      My wife had a Pontiac Sunfire GTX - she smashed it up and we got rid of it in favour of two Pontiac Pursuits.

                                      The Pursuit is basically a remodel of the Sunfire (same drivetrain, chassis).

                                      She liked her Sunfire cuz it was:

                                      1) affordable
                                      2) sporty
                                      3) good on gas
                                      4) had a ballsy 2.2litre
                                      5) good for haulin' the kids around town

                                      Everyone has different personal reasons for buying whatever vehicle. People have different priorities. Family-oriented folks have different practicalities than single folks.

                                      Putting someone down for their choice of cars they drive is superficial, shallow and based on ignorance of that person's requirements.

                                      edit - and I forgot to add she got a sweet employee discount on both the Sunfire and Pursuits through the company she works for.

                                      yea.

                                      I dont think she actually saw the car before she bought it




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                                      • SilentKnight
                                        Megan Fox's fluffer
                                        • Oct 2005
                                        • 24818

                                        #20
                                        If you ask me...the two complimented each other in the driveway.




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                                        • Oracle Porn
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                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 24433

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                          If you ask me...the two complimented each other in the driveway.




                                          typical american


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                                          • SilentKnight
                                            Megan Fox's fluffer
                                            • Oct 2005
                                            • 24818

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                                            typical american
                                            Typical dumbass.

                                            Look at the license plate.

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                                            • CheeseFrog
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                                              • Dec 2003
                                              • 1724

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                              Typical dumbass.

                                              Look at the license plate.

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                                              • reynold
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 51271

                                                #24
                                                It's their choice, otherwise known as free will. No one, not even the President, can contend with that.

                                                Originally posted by EroticySteve
                                                With all of the options for cars why would someone buy a piece of poo like a Pontiac Sunfire or a Chevy Cavalier or a Dodge Neon?

                                                I'm not knocking small or inexpensive cars, just the particularly crappy, uninteresting ones that have no record of reliabilty, safety, style or good resale value.

                                                I have a friend. She could have bought herself a nice Honda Accord but with the money she buys some crappy Pontiac Sunfire.

                                                Makes me wonder.

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                                                • qwe
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 2109

                                                  #25
                                                  ya you have a point... but most people dont know sh!t about cars, thats why they buy those shitty cars.... i would take any 2003 accord/camery then brand new american shit

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                                                  • Spunky
                                                    I need a beer
                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                    • 133986

                                                    #26
                                                    I guess it's all about fuel economy ..they aren't all that bad looking

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                                                    • Veterans Day
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                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 8403

                                                      #27
                                                      we grabbed the wife a 2003 Nissan Altima for her business car, and I must say what a fuckin tin can shitbox it is.
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                                                      • jade_dragon
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                                                        • May 2004
                                                        • 1737

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by 26MLR
                                                        American cars suck period. No matter what class you're looking at the cars from Germany and Japan are better.
                                                        German cars have fallen in reliability below american in many ways says some sources
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                                                        • Nismo
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                                                          • May 2002
                                                          • 4977

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Veterans Day
                                                          we grabbed the wife a 2003 Nissan Altima for her business car, and I must say what a fuckin tin can shitbox it is.
                                                          Was it the 2.5 or the 3.5? The 3.5's are sweet, while the 2.5's are pos's.

                                                          And I have a 1993 nissan altima with just over 200k miles on original eng/trans. and it has never, not even once, broken down. And it actually runs great.
                                                          Last edited by Nismo; 01-30-2006, 09:09 PM.
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                                                          • Veterans Day
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                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                            • 8403

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Nismo
                                                            Was it the 2.5 or the 3.5? The 3.5's are sweet, while the 2.5's are pos's.

                                                            And I have a 1993 nissan altima with just over 200k miles on original eng/trans. and it has never, not even once, broken down. And it actually runs great.
                                                            2.5, and if you like feeling like your sitting on cardboard boxes for seats then more power to ya. Its just a very thin feeling car. Back to lincoln next time
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