NATS vs. CCBill

**Stallion** · 01-28-2006, 10:32 AM

damn thats a huge difference..

**Morgan** · 01-28-2006, 10:34 AM

ya, but how much traffic did you actually send to get those numbers??? some days can be way off from others.

**fuzebox** · 01-28-2006, 10:36 AM

That's fucked up...

Are the CCBill stats from the same period of time? The site is relatively new, and when it first came out you'd experience better stats than now.

FWIW I do great with Hodough w/ NATS

**BlingDaddy** · 01-28-2006, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by fuzebox

That's fucked up...

Are the CCBill stats from the same period of time? The site is relatively new, and when it first came out you'd experience better stats than now.

FWIW I do great with Hodough w/ NATS

No Fuze... the CCBill stats were from before the NATS implementation. The site been around less than 6 months or so I'd guess. I'm thinking it's still pretty fresh because I get gally submissions for it all the time.

**cyberpunk** · 01-28-2006, 10:39 AM

NATS is a billing system not a CC processor.

**BlingDaddy** · 01-28-2006, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by cyberpunk

NATS is a billing system not a CC processor.

Most of us understand that. So you add a billing system and shit tanks? Go back to CCBill direct! LMAO

**BlingDaddy** · 01-28-2006, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by Morgan

ya, but how much traffic did you actually send to get those numbers??? some days can be way off from others.

Sure... we all have up days and down days.

Like I said I'm not bashing... I just find it interesting. I have another program approching 0:14,000 now that's fucked up... LMAO

**Mutt** · 01-28-2006, 10:45 AM

do you still have access to the stats from that program via the CCBILL Affiliate Admin or once a program switched to NATS you can't do that?

**BlingDaddy** · 01-28-2006, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

do you still have access to the stats from that program via the CCBILL Affiliate Admin or once a program switched to NATS you can't do that?

I don't think so, I think once it's NATS the CC Bill Aff Admin show zilch.

**Baker Rd** · 01-28-2006, 11:37 AM

create a local copy of the tour and send your traffic directly to ccbill / paycom join forms.

**Ray@TastyDollars** · 01-28-2006, 11:38 AM

Can you please post your paysite link code?

**Baker Rd** · 01-28-2006, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by BlingDaddy

I don't think so, I think once it's NATS the CC Bill Aff Admin show zilch.

Your ccbill ID isn't deleted once they implemented NATS, it's still there, and you can still use it. You just won't see any stats via the NATS admin.

**Baker Rd** · 01-28-2006, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Baker Rd

Your ccbill ID isn't deleted once they implemented NATS, it's still there, and you can still use it. You just won't see any stats via the NATS admin.

Actually you might not get paid if you bypass NATS

NATS should seriously consider replacing smarty with smarty-lite and removing pear completely.

**BlingDaddy** · 01-28-2006, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by Baker Rd

Actually you might not get paid if you bypass NATS

NATS should seriously consider replacing smarty with smarty-lite and removing pear completely.

That was my thought too... you can use an old CCBill link code but on entry to the tour it converts it to NATS anyway.

**BlingDaddy** · 01-28-2006, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Ray

Can you please post your paysite link code?

Here ya go Ray - http://join.mydaughtersfuckingablack...rack/NTE6Mzox/

**andrej_NDC** · 01-28-2006, 11:54 AM

I asked them to let me sign-up for a "ccbill only" program. Im slowly starting to send traffic only to such programs.

**Ray@TastyDollars** · 01-28-2006, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by BlingDaddy

Here ya go Ray - http://join.mydaughtersfuckingablack...rack/NTE6Mzox/

Im no expert

However, if I were to ad my "2 cents" id say the join page template needs a shit load of work. This could be causing the ratio differnce.

Ray

**andrej_NDC** · 01-28-2006, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Ray

Im no expert

However, if I were to ad my "2 cents" id say the join page template needs a shit load of work. This could be causing the ratio differnce.

Ray

yup, its this
http://www.mydaughtersfuckingablackd...bill/index.htm
vs. this
http://join.mydaughtersfuckingablack...TE6Mzox&step=2
big big difference

**Ray@TastyDollars** · 01-28-2006, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by andrej_NDC

yup, its this
http://www.mydaughtersfuckingablackd...bill/index.htm
vs. this
http://join.mydaughtersfuckingablack...TE6Mzox&step=2
big big difference

Something tells me they are not fully ready with NATS and maybe BlingDaddy signed up and used nats before the offical launch. *shurgs*

Ray

**aico** · 01-28-2006, 12:32 PM

Here's what I don't get. Obviously, some affiliates don't like NATS, I have heard it in threads, and from ICQ conversations. Some affilaite love NATS. So, why wouldn't the program owner make different tours? One tour (each) for CCBill/Paycom/Other only (Keeping affiliate paid by CCBill), & One tour for NATS.

It can't be that hard, just make a subdomain, copy all the files, and change the join pages.

Makes sense to me, unless I am missing something.

**Doctor Dre** · 01-28-2006, 12:37 PM

Tons of people are bashing NATS, and tons of people are bashing CCbill sponsors. In the end, there are so many more factors then that.

**BlingDaddy** · 01-28-2006, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by Ray

Something tells me they are not fully ready with NATS and maybe BlingDaddy signed up and used nats before the offical launch. *shurgs*

Ray

Ray... I wouldn't think so.. I've been using HD all the way through the transition. I've even tried using the latest coding.

**BlingDaddy** · 01-28-2006, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by aico

Here's what I don't get. Obviously, some affiliates don't like NATS, I have heard it in threads, and from ICQ conversations. Some affilaite love NATS. So, why wouldn't the program owner make different tours? One tour (each) for CCBill/Paycom/Other only (Keeping affiliate paid by CCBill), & One tour for NATS.

It can't be that hard, just make a subdomain, copy all the files, and change the join pages.

Makes sense to me, unless I am missing something.

I've had good and bad experiences with both for sure.

**Gawdy** · 01-28-2006, 12:50 PM

This isnt news, when any program starts with CCBill and goes over to cascading its always the same storey in my experiance. Maybe its not the same for everyone, but its always the same for me

NATS vs. CCBill

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