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jjjay 01-29-2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex
But you realize that they are getting paid to steal from other webmasters, use bandwidth, and steal content and use it without permission (without the context of the website, such as what google images does)?

google gives context as it links to your site

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They don't thumb it and link, they link the big pictures... if you get in the wrong place in fusker, they can totally wipe a 10 mps connection... effectively a DDos attack of sorts.
learn htaccess for anti hotlinking

jjjay 01-29-2006 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fris
if webmasters werent stupid and setup hotlinking protection, then they wouldnt cry like a baby.

that's what I meant to say

kernelpanic 01-29-2006 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
Code:

RewriteEngine on
RewriteOptions inherit
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*fusker.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*anotherdomain.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*moredomains.*$
RewriteRule /* http://www.url-to-send-these-visitors-to.com/pissoff.html [R,L]

see if that helps

Sending an image request to an HTML document is pointless, when you can just 403 it instead. If that page happens to be script generated, the fusker can easily overload your server. :winkwink:


I remember an ICQ message I got a few months ago from someone who had their server repeatedly crashing. I SSHed in, and dumped the logs (which took forever), and finally found out what the problem was. He had created a page in his CMS with goatse/*******/etc, and was trying to redirect the hotlinkers to that via htaccess. Each of the image views was causing a hit on a dynamically generated page :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Juicy D. Links 01-29-2006 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThumbLord
same here my friend Juicy, I am so glad I actually have met persons ( male/female ) from the USA that are not like you.
It was a relief to be honest.

a dime a dozen on gfy a dime a ozen low intelletucuals........shame

nico-t 01-29-2006 06:28 PM

hotlink protection in htaccess
yes its that simple

RawAlex 01-30-2006 01:51 PM

yes... htaccess, that simple... but it doesn't take away from the fact that certain programs are buying traffic and accepting to do business with sites that steal.

I wish you people would read the thread - I am protected with htaccess, and yes, it works... but you now what? You get enough requests to your server that you have to handle with htaccess, your box still slows down.

Get back to the point: Fusker sites steal from other people, and some companies are content to profit from theft.

Juicy, can you please answer the question DIRECTLY?

thanks

Alex

RawAlex 01-30-2006 02:17 PM

Let me add this. Let's say you run a hotdog stand. Guy rolls another stand up next to you, sells for half the price, and when someone asks for a dog, he reaches into your cart to get the dog.... and doesn't pay you.

Truly an unfair advantage.

Alex

Juicy D. Links 01-30-2006 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
yes... htaccess, that simple... but it doesn't take away from the fact that certain programs are buying traffic and accepting to do business with sites that steal.

I wish you people would read the thread - I am protected with htaccess, and yes, it works... but you now what? You get enough requests to your server that you have to handle with htaccess, your box still slows down.

Get back to the point: Fusker sites steal from other people, and some companies are content to profit from theft.

Juicy, can you please answer the question DIRECTLY?

thanks

Alex

Why did you single out Fleshlight and not the other 2 sponsors?

Juicy D. Links 01-30-2006 02:22 PM

Did someone say Fleshlight?

PROMOTE FLESHLIGHTS


SIGN UP and email me [email protected] to APPROVE IT

Juicy D. Links 01-30-2006 02:22 PM

http://www.nymalegigolos.com/fl/juicyglow.gif


http://www.gl4l.com/fl/juicy2.jpg

http://www.nymalegigolos.com/teaser/fleshjuicy.jpg

Juicy D. Links 01-30-2006 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
Juicy, can you please answer the question DIRECTLY?

What you want answered?

vvq 01-30-2006 02:24 PM

htaccess

Juicy D. Links 01-30-2006 02:26 PM

Alex,

Read my earlier post btw.........you post this stuff on weekend when we are off and enjoying the weekend......today is monday

Now a simple email would have been the professional thing to do and so on...

Looking into it.

milambur 01-30-2006 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
Let me add this. Let's say you run a hotdog stand. Guy rolls another stand up next to you, sells for half the price, and when someone asks for a dog, he reaches into your cart to get the dog.... and doesn't pay you.

Truly an unfair advantage.

Alex

Not that I like these guys, but they aren't doing anything illegal, the stuff is still on your server all they do is link. If you put an url on the hotlink protection image you might even get some traffic from it. Should everybody use hotlinking protection there would be no fusker sites.

Those sites that let users host images is a bigger problem.

RawAlex 01-30-2006 03:22 PM

milambur, umm, you cannot redirect an image request to a page - and serving a banner with your URL on it might get you a few hits, but nothing compared to the bandwidth the serve the sucker. I could get much better return on investment buying hits from adwords.

Juicy, the answer is simple: You are posting on here all the time, you have profile, and your promotion machine is turned up to 11 all the time. Asking the question here is the shortest route to get the best answer possible. It also helps to remind other scammers that your program won't pay for this type of traffic. Use of the content on their web pages without 2257 documents or a license is breaking the rules (the content is presented as integral to their site. There is no easy way to know that it is coming from a different server. They control their web page, they are responsible for what is on it - if this was not the case, they could load up on CP and display it with impunity, which we all know won't fly)

You are not the first. I did exactly the same to AVN and adbrite in the past. Even got that nice guy Pud to post on an adult board (he is involved in adbrite).

I am not treating you special. I picked the biggest banner on the page and it happened to be yours.

So, what is the status of fusker based accounts?

Alex

dunefield 01-30-2006 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
Why did you single out Fleshlight and not the other 2 sponsors?

does it matter if he didn't point out the 2 other sponsors... is it that hard to give out a straight answer?

milambur 01-30-2006 03:36 PM

Put a gif with black text on white background, you can get the size down to like 2k. The cost for displaying your URL a million times would be like $0.20 , if you don't want that traffic I can give you an image you can redirect to.

RawAlex 01-30-2006 07:53 PM

milambur, you need to work on your calculations... you left a couple of zeros out.

******* gets the call in my world.

Alex

georgeyw 01-30-2006 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
Why did you single out Fleshlight and not the other 2 sponsors?

Perhaps he thought he'd get a quick reply here - since you are whoring out fleshlight every single day.

Or perhaps he was giving you a heads up?

Either way does it really make a difference? A straight answer is not asking for much.

milambur 01-31-2006 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
milambur, you need to work on your calculations... you left a couple of zeros out.

******* gets the call in my world.

Alex

2 000 x 1 000 0000 = 2 000 000 000 = 2GB, I pay about 10 cent per GB so that would be 20 cent or $0.20
What zeros did I get wrong?

milambur 01-31-2006 06:25 AM

100 :)

*_*
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RawAlex 01-31-2006 08:36 AM

Your mistake is assuming that everyone in the world is paying 10 cents per gig. I just checked, example, blue gravity. $1.00 per gig (off their semi-dedicated page).

Your second mistake is assuming that serving 1 million images per day didn't somehow going to take away resources from other things. You are also forgetting server overhead, network overhead, etc.

In the meantime, Juicy, how are you doing on those guys? Do you feel bad because you have to review and approve each account and now you are on fusker?

Alex

jayeff 01-31-2006 09:10 AM

This kind of crap isn't anything new and if only one or two affiliates are going to see threads like this as more than just another chance to spam their sigs, where's the incentive for sponsors to deal with it?

Almost a week and three of this board's best-known sponsors are still up on that page and not a definitive comment from any of them. Pretty sad...

Brujah 01-31-2006 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
In the meantime, Juicy, how are you doing on those guys? Do you feel bad because you have to review and approve each account and now you are on fusker?

Interesting point. That kind of defeats the purpose of reviewing and approving ?

swedguy 01-31-2006 11:41 AM

Isn't it Tuesday today?

ilbb 01-31-2006 12:26 PM

they are piece of cakes in ass

Roald 01-31-2006 12:54 PM

http://static.flickr.com/10/15426586_4f7d78e2af_o.jpg

simple as that ;)))

Brujah 01-31-2006 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff
This kind of crap isn't anything new and if only one or two affiliates are going to see threads like this as more than just another chance to spam their sigs, where's the incentive for sponsors to deal with it?

Almost a week and three of this board's best-known sponsors are still up on that page and not a definitive comment from any of them. Pretty sad...

This brings up a good question. If you were getting paid pretty well by one of the sponsors on the page, would you stop using them because of their assumed continuous support of these kind of sites (passwords, warez, torrent, fusker, etc) ?

Spudstr 01-31-2006 02:48 PM

pretty sad that people can't learn how to protect themselfs or take advantage of the situation and have to complain to everyone and everything.

jayeff 01-31-2006 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
This brings up a good question. If you were getting paid pretty well by one of the sponsors on the page, would you stop using them because of their assumed continuous support of these kind of sites (passwords, warez, torrent, fusker, etc) ?

I have done it several times. I visit GFY to catch up on the sponsor news that for whatever reason they choose not to mail out and to watch for threads like this. Sponsors' reactions, or lack of them, tell me much more about them than any self-promos.

There are no "golden" sponsors any more, so replacing one doesn't cost a thing. I cannot stop a sponsor who wants to help keep this industry like the wild west, just so he can bank a few more dollars this year. But I don't have to support him.

Brujah 01-31-2006 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff
I have done it several times. I visit GFY to catch up on the sponsor news that for whatever reason they choose not to mail out and to watch for threads like this. Sponsors' reactions, or lack of them, tell me much more about them than any self-promos.

There are no "golden" sponsors any more, so replacing one doesn't cost a thing. I cannot stop a sponsor who wants to help keep this industry like the wild west, just so he can bank a few more dollars this year. But I don't have to support him.

In the case of AFF for example though, you spend a lot of time and money building a good recurring income with them. I know you're very well aware of how attached you can grow to a great recurring sponsor. I was asking myself the same question, as I posted it here. I do use AFF, and have a decent recurring with them. They seem to accept traffic from anyone, ethical (for whatever that seems to mean around here anymore) or not. I don't know the answer yet, whether I would drop them or not because they are continuing to support these Fuskers.

swedguy 01-31-2006 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr
pretty sad that people can't learn how to protect themselfs or take advantage of the situation and have to complain to everyone and everything.

There are a lot webmasters that came into this business because the could sell ice to Eskimos. Some has a more technical background. Not everybody is technical enough to put up a hotlink protection, and it's not a requirement. Copyright theft is illegal, no matter how you look at it.

Supporting illegal sites like Fusker interferes with honest webmasters business.

RawAlex 01-31-2006 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr
pretty sad that people can't learn how to protect themselfs or take advantage of the situation and have to complain to everyone and everything.

Honestly, that sounds like the answer of a man who would take money from anyone for anything.

If you bothered to read the thread, you would know I am already well protected, thanks very much, and that isn't the issue in the slightest.

The question comes to this: Why are the companies from some of the largest posters here comfortable to see their advertising on the pages of people who's sole business model is to steal from others?

I understand that "make money" theory, but affiliates should know that they are competing for those sales with people who have much lower costs than they do to do business, and steal to make sure it happens.

Sponsors should wake up. I am surprised that nobody has DMCA'ed a sponsor for aiding theft of copyright materials.

Alex

milambur 01-31-2006 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
Your mistake is assuming that everyone in the world is paying 10 cents per gig. I just checked, example, blue gravity. $1.00 per gig (off their semi-dedicated page).

Your second mistake is assuming that serving 1 million images per day didn't somehow going to take away resources from other things. You are also forgetting server overhead, network overhead, etc.

Whatever, like I said, if you don't want the traffic, I can take it.

jayeff 01-31-2006 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah
I was asking myself the same question, as I posted it here.

This business is very slowly maturing and eventually support of the kind of sites you mentioned will no longer be acceptable. But no-one can do more than guess at the timescale nor as to which sponsors will clean up their acts soon enough to remain successful. On the other hand you might switch to a a sponsor with higher professional standards but proves not to have what it will take to be around 10 years from now.

In the end I figure only time will tell if I made the right financial choice, so I might just as well do what I believe is right.

Brujah 02-02-2006 12:12 PM

Lars replied in another thread, jayeff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars
Thats fine however when youa re the 21st most visited english site on the interenet and the largest affialite program by a factor of 10 over the next biggest affialite program, you get everyone piling on inclusigna lot of shitty thieves, we do our very best to address all complaints, And out of all companies we are actually one of the most conservative sites you will find we turn down traffic every day from sites, so you may not see it but I do and I know we go to great leangths to take care of this kind of thing. My in house Councel has informed me that a better email to send complaints to is

legal (at) friendfinderinc.com

so go ahead fire away any sites you feel are infringing and we will take the appropraite action.



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