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What's it look like?Originally posted by Manowar
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Ey man.. i think this was a joke when i start speaking about it, later i contact with someone inside epass and is completely true, i think is not professional what they do... If the girl was a model or a hooker in the past.. dont give a shit... was in the past.. right now is working for Epass... and nobody will do a relation with her just looking a website.. i think in the promotion they dont put nothing about now is working in epassporte.
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I'm not sure I even know what the fuck it is that you just said.Originally posted by FallenAngel
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LOL too funnyComment
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so is she gonna be on the next epassporte ad??Comment
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what if this girl was told the shoot was a calendar, an ad, something other than a porn site? what if she in fact did do a mainstream shoot but some one rotten decided to resell the pics to a bikini porn site???
i get the drift there is more to this story. i'd suggest just take down the god damn pictures make your affiliates happy and be able to pay them by epass and everyone in the end is smiling
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that's rediculous... this makes epassporte look REALLY bad and unprofessionalComment
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A shoot is a shoot, if the photos were shot without something to that extent written into the release, then why should he have to take them down? If it's even the same girl that is.Originally posted by punker barbiewhat if this girl was told the shoot was a calendar, an ad, something other than a porn site? what if she in fact did do a mainstream shoot but some one rotten decided to resell the pics to a bikini porn site???
i get the drift there is more to this story. i'd suggest just take down the god damn pictures make your affiliates happy and be able to pay them by epass and everyone in the end is smilingComment
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cus she threw a bitch fitOriginally posted by stev0
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Get ahold of Keyser Soze! He seems to be the only person at ePassport who has a fucking clue what's going on there. Look at how much time and effort he spends cleaning up all the shit that all those other dumbass customer service people make. If anybody can take care of this...Keyser can
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Originally posted by stev0
point is this person wants something from epassporte ... sometimes you gotta give a little and take a little ;)Chaturbate Affiliate Support: [email protected]Comment
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PB point is he built a site around bikini girls. I am pretty sure its non nude site she shouldn't have posed for them. If they have a problem with it pay him to take it down. I know he had been working on it for a while. I think it is bullshit that epassport is doing this. Don't hire ex models they may have skeletons in there closetswhat if this girl was told the shoot was a calendar, an ad, something other than a porn site? what if she in fact did do a mainstream shoot but some one rotten decided to resell the pics to a bikini porn site???
i get the drift there is more to this story. i'd suggest just take down the god damn pictures make your affiliates happy and be able to pay them by epass and everyone in the end is smiling
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just read this whats crazy is she is an ex girlfriend of mine and still a great friend and Know for a fact she would not do anyhting for this industry in front of the camera especially nude she is one of the top bikinni models in the world...Comment
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Every day ePassporte just looks more and more like a joke run by idiots. A year ago I was going to get an account but then I started seeing all the crap going on with them... I'll never get an account there... I can wait for my cheques/wires and until a real company comes on the scene.Comment
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who sold you that content I would love to see the model release for it.
infact I will buy it just to check it out...
I think Epass is doing the right thing but thats because I know Leslie so until you know both sides dont be so quick to judge..
who's selling it I want to buy it just to see the Model release etc. Post the ProofComment
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I just checked it out and I know about 50% of the girls PersonallyOriginally posted by sexy-babes.tv
I see it doesnt hint porn and is a bikinni site and looks very nice.
I think it just freaks the girls out when its associated with the porn sites kinda.
Like I said I know Lesley well and I'm sure she freaked out like I said she is one of the top Bikinni models in the world and a very sweet girl.
I bet the photographer gets blacked balled soon as the girls start talking. they are all reef and sufer mag girlsComment
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I don't think nobody is quick to judge. If Leslie has a problem with a website using her material without a legal model release then she should hire an attorney and go after them just like most people do under this circumstance. Having ePassport do all your dirty work is pathetic and makes ePass look like the clowns that they are. I think ePass is going about this the wrong way and as you can see from the majority of the posts in this thread....everybody agrees.Originally posted by RogerVComment
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How are they doing the right thing? Are they going to cancel all the accounts of all the other programs that have that content? If you one day get some content that they don't like are they going to cancel your account? They're sticking their nose in someplace it doesn't belong and it's just another example of them being run by idiots.Originally posted by RogerV
This is an issue between the girl and the photographer and not anyone elses business. Hot babes in bikinis get promoted alongside porn all the time and there's not much one can do about it.Comment
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I had alot of problems with them too. You should contact Chris or Faye about this. Fayes email is [email protected].
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Originally posted by Tempest
I would have to see the model release to make a judgment.I wont even purchase content without it and the 2257 info. Its just my personally thought that dont mean shit really
Also its in there right to refuse any business. wether its right or wrong its there choice. If I dont like something someones doing I don't do business with them thats life..
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Originally posted by DeanCapture
maybe it was just brought to there attention but I bet They are going to put an end to it now if its not legit.. If it was your daughter I bet you would have another opinion.
If she worked for me I would protect her as well. Maybe you dont care and you steal models from other peoples sources and pawn them off as yours but what do I know
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Maybe I steal models from other peoples sources? And pawn them off as my mine?Originally posted by RogerV...Maybe you dont care and you steal models from other peoples sources and pawn them off as yours but what do I know
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It's not nude. I think the objection here is that the images are possibly being used for adult jerkoff material when they were intended for GQ and Sports Illustrated type things (that is, TEENAGER jerkoff material).Originally posted by KCat
This really sounds like something that could have been settled amicably over the phone. If anyone else wants those pictures pulled, which are apparently in legal use, and no misuse was intended, they should provide replacement content and compensate the webmaster a reasonable amount for the inconvenience.
I respect ePassporte's desire to look out for the interests of its employees but in this case it doesn't seem like they carried it out professionally.---'-,-{@ Sassy Grrrl @}-'-,---
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Just some rummors going around the biz I hear everything.. congrats on your new contract but Like this rummor I dont know the whole story.Originally posted by DeanCaptureMaybe I steal models from other peoples sources? And pawn them off as my mine?
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they asked for the model release he pointed the finger he should have had it on file?Originally posted by FizzgigIt's not nude. I think the objection here is that the images are possibly being used for adult jerkoff material when they were intended for GQ and Sports Illustrated type things (that is, TEENAGER jerkoff material).
This really sounds like something that could have been settled amicably over the phone. If anyone else wants those pictures pulled, which are apparently in legal use, and no misuse was intended, they should provide replacement content and compensate the webmaster a reasonable amount for the inconvenience.
I respect ePassporte's desire to look out for the interests of its employees but in this case it doesn't seem like they carried it out professionally. or maybe I missed the part where they provided it to Epass. I dont know the story just playing devils advocate since I know her and what shes's like.
There are many girls I know and wouldnt even think twice about it but those girls are the biggest in the Bikini world and I know them well and there thoughts on it. Trust me I would have had them naked if I could LOL.
They are cool but not into the porn side of things.
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So you don't know the whole story but you think it's ok to throw comments (rumours) like that around on this board? Interesting.......Originally posted by RogerV
I held you to a higher standard Roger - that was a pretty low move for you bro'!
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I felt the same way about you till I saw this comment by you..Originally posted by DeanCaptureSo you don't know the whole story but you think it's ok to throw comments (rumours) like that around on this board? Interesting.......
I held you to a higher standard Roger - that was a pretty low move for you bro'!
I don't think nobody is quick to judge. If Leslie has a problem with a website using her material without a legal model release then she should hire an attorney and go after them just like most people do under this circumstance. Having ePassport do all your dirty work is pathetic and makes ePass look like the clowns that they are. I think ePass is going about this the wrong way and as you can see from the majority of the posts in this thread....everybody agrees.
What if I had your Girlfriend or someone close to you on my site in the same fashion would you do biz with me if I didnt give you a model release to prove she signed off on it?
I dont have a problem with the site personally actually is real nice if it wasnt lumped in with the porn sites.
and I was just trying to prove a point to you about making a decision on something you dont have the full story to which happens alot on GFYComment
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Roger....Obviously you have no fucking idea what you are talking about so in the future if you want to spread some "rumours" about me...how about contacting me first to confirm them. I'll be more then happy to set you straight on any rumours that you may hear about me.Originally posted by DeanCaptureMaybe I steal models from other peoples sources? And pawn them off as my mine?
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Damn.
I wanted to register epassportesucks.com
but seems they got it already.
I wonder if they'd sell it
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What has opening an account at ePassporte got to do with model releases??
Have they now become the guardian angels for talent?
I assume you let them know you have no intention of complying with their cease in desist order and your "legal department" with in be in contact with their legal department at a time of your choosing.
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Re-read the first post...Originally posted by RogerVthey asked for the model release he pointed the finger he should have had it on file?Comment
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Its just in the rumour mill one of hundreds I hear weekly and I really dont care since none of them involve me. I rarely sling shit but this time your comment hit me on a very personal level in many ways.Originally posted by DeanCapture
the company and girl you trashed on are good friends of mine just like many in the biz and I would defend anyone I do biz with the same way.
I never talk shit even if I know the facts its not my style so I do appologize if you were affended by my comment but you also just happend to push the wrong button like most of the anons in this thread with me..Comment
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What??? So a porn company can't also run non-nude sites??? Like a bikini site?? Jeez man...Originally posted by RogerVComment
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Well it's nice of you to take up for your friends Roger - I would do the same thing. But you don't have to stoop to spreading rumours about things that you know nothing about in order to defend your friends. That's a new low for you my friend.Originally posted by RogerV
Now, in regards to rumours of me stealing models and pawning them off as my own? I have no idea what you are talking about or referring to. Since you've already started this - go ahead and finish it. Spill it right here - right now and let's see what this is all about.Comment
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Ofcourse but dont package them together. I'm not the Internet police and belive me not someone who can judge people.Originally posted by Tempest
I have mainstream sites similar but I dont add them to 12 pornosites LOL
think about it I do a model gig for GQ in my dreams but if it were real and I ended up on a site with hot models in a program with gay pornsites I would be pissed
But everyone has there own morals and values and I bet they didnt think anyhting of it. It a nice site It just hit home with Epass and they have the right to refuse whoever they want thats the bottom line. just like we all doComment
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Originally posted by DeanCapture
Basically I heard you were shooting for someone full time took there models that they had for exclusive shoots on a site they are getting ready to launch and hit the models up later to shoot them for another client you so happen to be working for now.
thats about it in a nut shell! Girls and contacts you would not have had without the business they hired you for. I can go on If I'm wrong Sorry thats what I heard in the rumour mill its not a fact but if you want to comment on it go ahead to be honest I really dont care it doesnt effect me. and I am in no way trying to tarnish your name its a rummor like most on GFYComment
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That hoss just don't run Roger.Originally posted by RogerVOfcourse but dont package them together. I'm not the Internet police and belive me not someone who can judge people.
I have mainstream sites similar but I dont add them to 12 pornosites LOL
think about it I do a model gig for GQ in my dreams but if it were real and I ended up on a site with hot models in a program with gay pornsites I would be pissed
But everyone has there own morals and values and I bet they didnt think anyhting of it. It a nice site It just hit home with Epass and they have the right to refuse whoever they want thats the bottom line. just like we all do
Unless there was anything more than the standard terms of any model release, there is no reason for objecting to image use. A model is paid a fee and shot on the basis of a model release - no other criteria. It is not a personal issue or that or descretion - it's a legal contract.
Whether or not the employees of ePassporte are or were models, is totally irrelevant to opening accounts. The email content published on this thread is too absurd for comment and further confirmation to avoid any dealings with this company.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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I think this hits the nail on the head. This is NOT an epassporte issue, this is a Leslie issue and should have remained that way. Epassporte should stay professional and 100 miles away from extra drama, they have enough of their own to deal with.Originally posted by DeanCaptureRod Macdonald
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yeah, you missed itOriginally posted by RogerVthey asked for the model release he pointed the finger he should have had it on file? or maybe I missed the part where they provided it to Epass.Comment
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Guess they don't want to share their girls
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I shoot girls every week and pay people to shoot for me. I let them know what the site is about I would not take a teen girl and put her on some tranny or my dirty rotten filthy whores site out of respect since they dont want to be portraid as that.Originally posted by Webby
but I have my own code and ethics and rules everyone has there own. I'm just defending a friend if it was an ex of mine like Juliet or Aria etc, I would say epass is wrong but this time I feel they are doing whats right for there employee that is there right period...wether we like it or not there is alot of shit I dissagree with daily that I have to live with its part of life.
and nobody has seen this legal contract unless I'm missing somethingLast edited by RogerV; 01-26-2006, 12:12 AM.Comment
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SO he did show them a legal model release? all those girls are going to sue the fuck out of that photographerOriginally posted by iv@n I doubt they did it for stock photos I could be wrong though but Like I said i dont know the full story and I'm not going to jump on any bashing bandwagon on a great product in my experience
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Originally posted by RogerV
How about telling her to fight her own fights rather than throwing buisness damaging allegations because you disagree with a comment somebody made on the board?Comment
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Originally posted by sarah_webinc
this is GFY I think she has been trying to stop it but you know how that goes in the biz I know I sure do when everyone stole a 3 min clip of mine of a celeb lets see you fight it and I have money..
whats your point how about I take one of your pic and throw in on one of my sites its a public picture do you think you can sue me? but I bet your boss would do biz with me if I did if I'm wrong let me know right now and I can make it happen
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On the contract, you are correct - nobody has seen it, and since nobody has seen it, there is, at this time, no reason to consider it is anything more than a standard model release. Speculation of some magical terms which exclude this specific model from appearing on X or Y website are pointless.Originally posted by RogerVI shoot girls every week and pay people to shoot for me. I let them know what the site is about I would not take a teen girl and put her on some tranny or my dirty rotten filthy whores site out of respect since they dont want to be portraid as that.
but I have my own code and ethics and rules everyone has there own. I'm just defending a friend if it was an ex of mine like Juliet or Aria etc, I would say epass is wrong but this time I feel they are doing whats right for there employee that is there right period...wether we like it or not there is alot of shit I dissagree with daily that I have to live with its part of life.
and nobody has seen this legal contract unless I'm missing something
Suppose if you happen to be in a position where you can state what a specific shoot is for and tell a model, that's fine, but that is not normally the case. Sets are sold worldwise for all types of media.
It's also not about respect - it's a business of creating content. Models are paid as part of their side of the business they choose to engage in. If there are genuinely extra "terms" attached to shooting a specific model - that's another story, but doubt either you or any other photographer shooting content has the time or money to waste shooting and having their sales market restricted by the whims and wishes of models, which could, in practice, be never ending. We are not exactly talking about celeb content here.
To be honest, in X decades I've never once had one model care where images were eventually published - tho they'd all love a front page of Playboy for their own ego reasons. They know they are being shot to earn money and under the terms of a model release and being paid for this - that's where the deal ends.
The relevance of ePassporte in this scenario is nada. Even worse is the concept that accounts "appear" to be declined on the basis of stuff which has nothing to do with the business of e-commerce, but on who they happen to employ. It's too silly
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Roger - this is a rumour that is spreading about me?Originally posted by RogerV
I'm glad you reserved a little place in your brain to store that bullshit Roger so that you could use it against me at some later date. Tells me a lot about what kind of person you are. You don't like to spread rumours but it sounds like to me your ass deep in the rumour mill. I would be more then happy to comment on that rumour but since you so conveniently neglected to post the name of the company and the models, I still have no idea what your talking about. Did you make this shit up yourself...or are you just responsible for helping to spread it?
Watch out everybody, Dean Capture is gonna steal all your models
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Roger V
We have the full legal documentation for this content which clearly states the full scope of what we can do with it.
This was given to Epassporte.
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If I signed a model release and someone missused those pictures I would go and talk to the photographer and find out what happened. I also wouldn't get my boss involved at all as it isn't his job to fight my personal battles.
I wouldn't go on a buisness board throwing around 'rumours' to get even. That was more the point I was addressing.Comment
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