50 pornographers going to jail because of a right wing conspiracy

Its way past the time for parents to turn off thier kids computers, get them off the net and back to book learning and playing outside.
Wait until they are older to give them access to the net for learning.
I say the net should be for Adults Only

I am just appalled at how media exagerrates their reports which aggravates the current finger-pointing against the adult biz.

Please, get a clue!

I agree.

Just the amount of " free porn " or the use of SE with typo errors or Keywords ...
Porn ( explicit sexual conduct ) should only be available to members. That would weed out a lot of the kids looking at the galleries that kids here make.

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Made up figures in an attempt to use them against the adult industry!

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please enlighten me.

btw people who say that kids should be allowed on the internet etc are fucking idiots...you shouldn't be allowed to speak because you are so stupid and closed minded....

by the time I turned 18 I was living on my own, with my own car that was paid for in cash and nice steady paycheck, all because of the internet.... now you say "kids" under 18 should be allowed? kill yourself please.

this is where responsible parenting comes in :thumbsup

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if we know she is wrong instead of bitching on gfy why dont we all write letter to the editors of our local newspapers talking about that this is a made up fact.The reason they can make shit up is they know we have no voice we have to create one. Tom from FSC cant do it all by himself.

We as an industry can not really sit back and look at these hearings and blame the politicians nor what they say and think. They get stats and figures from their aids who get them via assorted organizations and case study results. They then form their opinion based on these "facts" they have received mixed in with personal experiences.

Our industry has no real organization, we do not do any case studies and we have the near no PR presence anywhere.

The industry allows anyone into its arms on the webmaster side as long as you can fill out a form and sign a check; opps epassporte and sponsor provided atm cards took care of that, so you can be in it if you can fill out a form. The bar for entry is just way to damn low.

Due to that fact and that many put the money ahead of everything else, we have made our own beds and now the Government is telling us to sleep in it. We really should not be all that surprised, shocked, or even critical over what they were saying in regards to pornography (minus the CP correlations of course).

[QUOTE=bringer]please enlighten me.[/QUOT... loaded gun ???? :warning :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Kids start very young now to use the Internet... Old folks don't.

Students get their schedule, enlist in courses, get their results, download test they have to do, do research for papers, and so on...
When I was a teen, I used to talk for hours on the phone with my g/f's... Today, they chat with or without webcam..

You want to remove this tool , just to protect the " rights " of porn peddlers to flood my email boxes with bigger penises, 4 hours erection, sluts sucking horse dicks and so on...

Parents have an obligation, but so do we ...

[QUOTE=directfiesta]That I have to agree with you on , sending porn spam is sticking it in their faces.

Kids go to the library, they also go to friends houses that don't regulate. Parents can only do so much to keep their kids from seeing some of the sick shit out there short of locking them in a cage till they are 18. It does bother me that my boy probably sees the garbage that some of the folks that do the extreme and hardcore put out there without having over 18 credit card access...via trailers, mpg's, tgp's ect..ect.
I keep my shit locked up tight and their computer where I can see it. But I cant be home 24/7 and I cant monitor my kids at others houses.

We as webmasters have to be more responsible..not just keep looking at the $$ signs and expect everyone to understand you want to get rich no matter what the expense.
Webmasters can only point the finger at parents so much. It pains me to think these young boys now a days expect that every girl is going to take it in the ass while being puked on and believe it is OK..why, it's on the net. It pains me to see even one girl at 16 aspiring to be a internet ho or pornstar Overall our actions have a greater impact on society more than we will ever know.

im not talking about removing it to protect the rights of porn peddlers. im talking about being responsible and not giving a CHILD a pc to go in their room or letting them use one without supervision that has no filtering software what so ever. kids with pcs in their room and no supervision are the same kids we read about in the news getting murdered by someone they met on myspace. if you want your child to have a pc for school work thats great! install net nanny or something else that'll limit their access so they're doing school work instead of downloading porn on kazaa or meeting "13 year olds" at tacobell they happen to meet on myspace.

While I agree such things as promoting adult material via spam and typos etc are bad for the Internet I'd have to argue with your point that the Internet should foremost be a place of education. Education should be conducted by responsible parents and professional educators.

Sure the Internet can be a valuable research tool as well. However, before the Internet can be used for responsible and educational research purposes, that takes education as well. If the Internet's primary purpose is to educate our youth we are in a world of trouble. Adult material aside, the Internet is full of false information, biased so called research, and mostly just plain b.s. So following your logic every website of a so called informative nature should be regulated as well and screened for validity to protect the educational value of the internet. That means no more bob's ufo's in Paris website, no more blogs, etc. The last thing I'd do is allow the Internet to educate my kids, adult material or not. Imagine if a student was researching Internet law and ran across, for example, a non-adult version of GFY (keep in mind that the posters at this hypothetical forum were of the same nature as those here). They would be given so much b.s. and false information they would fail their assignment miserably.

The primary responsibility for our youths education falls to responsible parents and qualified educators. Not cyberspace. Plus, some kids would benefit from doing research the good old fashioned way, opening a book. That's a tried and true method that has worked for hundreds and hundreds of years now. :D

Books to are biased, gloss over parts of history, omit others, full of the teacher/authors point of view, have miss-information in them and well same basic bullshit.

The Internet is not a fucking babysitter. If you want your children to have access to material to do their school project then send them to the fucking library. The Internet was created to be a forum for open communication. When John Q. Public jumped on board it evolved to provide the content that was in demand. I would like to see one single example of a parent that while purchasing a computer actually asks the salesman what they should do to protect their children from objectionable content. I've never heard of it. You know why? Because of either laziness or stupidity that's why. Well that and the fact that I'm sure there's more than a few parents that want the content themselves. Why bother taking personal responsibility when you can sit in a coffee shop and talk about why the government isn't taking more steps to censor expression. I'm not just talking about the US either but it does seem to get talked about more down there.

One more thing with regards to the comment that there are webmasters that are intentionally trying to push porno on children under the age of 18 - I believe it. I don't think it's the majority, actually I don't think it's even close to the majority, but there are definitely a few shitheads out there.

Hm, children aren't the largest consumer of internet porn? You reason this because most of your hits are during the school hours? Don't most adults have jobs that are also during the school hours? Your logic makes no sense.

So where would you prefer students research for example, the growth of Internet marketing? Some peer reviewed published literature on the topic or "Space Puppies Mega Web page of Internet marketing".

I agree many books are biased and flawed but for research purposes, they are many times more reliable than Internet sources. After all, for a book of an informative nature to be published the author does fall under critique of others knowledgeable in the same area. Anyone with an Internet connection can slap up a web page. Just look at some of the trolls here for proof of the later.

Who the fuck cares what it WAS created for ... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
I could tell you the US army created it to communicate...
I could tell you the Universities then took it over after being dropped by the army
I could tell you anything and everything...

What is important is what is it TODAY !

Librairies are dinosaurs ... soon to be found in archeoligical museum....

When I was a student ( many many years ago ), I HAD to go to the library... I would have to figure out what book I needed to consult, look at little cards in cardex for the Author, or maybe the Title to find out that it had been checked out ...

I was asked on a gov. panel here in Quebec... They had started to close on to the content of the porn ... Their main claim was that it was so distastefull, the signs on the streets, the doorman handing flyers, and so on .............

I shocked them by saying that I tought that in the establishment ( titty bars ..) everything should be permitted, including fucking; but that on another hand that all exterior advertising should be textual only ( no pics of whores, no awfull sign of a superwomen topless ...) with no inapropriate words ( so basically: Adult Entertainment - come on in ... ).

The panel laughed , and laughed, and laughed.

Today, 20 years later here, we have " contact dances" on the main Montreal street ...

re: Contact dances = fingering, licking, getting a handjob, some bj etc .....


CONCLUSION: don't ban the content ( aside from CP ), but regulate advertising ( read : free fucking porn ).

never tought it would be so long.


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I agree with that 100%. As for your first comment though about what the Internet was 'meant' for is a little retarded. The Information Age has been heralded as the most important in human history for one reason - you no longer have to be worried about being persecuted for legal expression. That obviously doesn't mean a whole lot to you but it does for some of us. I for one don't want content to be dictated by media giants or a government that's proven itself to be susceptable to corporate lobbying.

I don't know what that means.