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After Shock Media 01-19-2006 01:31 PM

BTW you foreners they are keeping you in mind as well and talking about you all.

Joan 01-19-2006 01:32 PM

Regpay
 
don?t now if you show the story about CP in the WSJ yesterday ? http://online.wsj.com/article_email/...zQxNjc2Wj.html



ASACP provided info on these billing companies since 2002 and AVN reported on it over two years:

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=69702

The Truth Hurts 01-19-2006 01:32 PM

cambria...

bringer 01-19-2006 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2
I'm just listening to the audio while working, but peeking over once in awhile and have noticed this too...but really, we don't have any "friends" in congress on either side...

absolutely. they'd all shut us down in a second but i found it odd that the party many here think to be on our side and often praise as an alterntive to the evil republicans are actually the same.

FightThisPatent 01-19-2006 01:36 PM

Listening to CPAN now on the hearing...

Good thing cambria is on the panel...



Fight the bump!

After Shock Media 01-19-2006 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent
Listening to CPAN now on the hearing...

Good thing cambria is on the panel...



Fight the bump!

I am reserving judgement on Cambria being on the panel until I hear him speak and address this Pornographer = Pedophile/CP connection.

cool1g 01-19-2006 01:40 PM

sounds like the guy on now has been surfing TGPs and free sites!

Damian_Maxcash 01-19-2006 01:40 PM

$2.5 Bln!!! WFT? - I knew you guys where shaving!!

and that bitch can stop "training" my goverment right now :(

SykkBoy 01-19-2006 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer
absolutely. they'd all shut us down in a second but i found it odd that the party many here think to be on our side and often praise as an alterntive to the evil republicans are actually the same.

we are definitely in agreement there

I just feel better with the democrats because they'll lock things up in gridlock a little better ;-)

mikeyddddd 01-19-2006 01:46 PM

"There is no substitute for parental involvement." - Tatiana Platt

No shit :thumbsup

FightThisPatent 01-19-2006 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
I am reserving judgement on Cambria being on the panel until I hear him speak and address this Pornographer = Pedophile/CP connection.


exactly... the federal prosecutors and Oprah have equated porn to CP.. which is completely insane, FBI field agents who bust pedofiles, rarely find porn with the CP images... CP is a mental sickness and they don't look at porn.

you don't all of a sudden become a pedo... it usually occurs in the developing years, usually through personal trauma, continues through growth, or surfaces later in adulthood....

you don't become a pedo because you see pics of underage kids.. there is more brain synapses that have to get fired off that taps into the mental illness.



Fight the Pedros!

bringer 01-19-2006 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2
we are definitely in agreement there

I just feel better with the democrats because they'll lock things up in gridlock a little better ;-)

thats very true. thank god for the democrats ineffectiveness with pushing threw bills

mikeyddddd 01-19-2006 01:51 PM

Cambria's up.

FightThisPatent 01-19-2006 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd
"There is no substitute for parental involvement." - Tatiana Platt

for those not watching Tatiana is the Chief Trust Officer and Senior VP at AOL.


Fight the 411!

Tom_PM 01-19-2006 01:57 PM

Yes! He's mentioning .kids domain. Very good.

After Shock Media 01-19-2006 01:58 PM

Yes finally a .kids talk.

FightThisPatent 01-19-2006 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom
Yes! He's mentioning .kids domain. Very good.


.XXX = bad
.KIDS = good



Fight the .$$$!

Tom_PM 01-19-2006 02:00 PM

All of my sites are labeled "Adults Only" with a warning page. Does the chairman suggest "adults only" labels on nekkid pictures?

FlexxAeon 01-19-2006 02:00 PM

lol...why old dude chewing out cambria?

After Shock Media 01-19-2006 02:01 PM

That was a pretty harsh threat.

Umm people go register your sites with ICRA if you have not yet.

luv$ 01-19-2006 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon
lol...why old dude chewing out cambria?

I know man - overkill.

he doesn't even know what he's talking about (old dude)

- Jesus Christ - 01-19-2006 02:01 PM

Freedom is so quaint.

Our jail cells await, See you there! :thumbsup


p.s. the "old dude" is ted stevens... bridge to nowhere ring a bell?

Tom_PM 01-19-2006 02:01 PM

I think that was the opprtunity to mentioned warning pages, and icra labels.

FlexxAeon 01-19-2006 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom
All of my sites are labeled "Adults Only" with a warning page. Does the chairman suggest "adults only" labels on nekkid pictures?

exactly....we've been labeling sites with ratings/warnings for years....

SykkBoy 01-19-2006 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringer
thats very true. thank god for the democrats ineffectiveness with pushing threw bills

exactly

a congress in gridlock is a good thing when we can be beneficiaries of that gridlock

mikeyddddd 01-19-2006 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media
Umm people go register your sites with ICRA if you have not yet.

Already do. :pimp

After Shock Media 01-19-2006 02:18 PM

I am really becoming to like the Hawaiian senator.

Tom_PM 01-19-2006 02:18 PM

This is why I suggest IE blocks everything but .kids by DEFAULT preinstalled. Adults will quickly learn how to unblock the .com's etc....

After Shock Media 01-19-2006 02:30 PM

umm fuck mark pryor.

FlexxAeon 01-19-2006 02:30 PM

:mad: :mad why do they have such a boner for .xxx???

anyone with half a brain can see that it WON'T WORK!!

Tom_PM 01-19-2006 02:32 PM

Yep, .xxx would be stupid. We all know that, he seems to have an interest in it as opposed to other solutions.

- Jesus Christ - 01-19-2006 02:33 PM

Mark Pryor is a stupid hick.

luv$ 01-19-2006 02:35 PM

Mark Pryor OBVIOUSLY has a financial motivation for his questions.

Furthermore he doesn't even listen to the answers after he asks a question.

What a fuck, the cowboy attitude is irritating too.

mikeyddddd 01-19-2006 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd
IFFOR must have gotten into Mark Pryor's pocket.

See above.

Damian_Maxcash 01-19-2006 02:36 PM

At least he got the last word in - I think he did well

TheDoc 01-19-2006 02:37 PM

Paul isn't much all the ball with good answers. These people need to sit down with a few of us and learn how to answer these questions in ways that would crush them.

FightThisPatent 01-19-2006 02:47 PM

One of the congressman asked Cambria about .KIDS that couldn't a porn site operator get a .KIDS domain and therefore gain exposure to kids.

Cambria didn't have a strong answer like he had with the other questions.

What he should have mentioned is that whoever is the registrar for .KIDS would have a review committee that would ensure that the website that owns the .KIDS domain would be screened and validated to be kid friendly.

That this registrar would also monitor the websites to ensure compliance.

This is why a .KIDS domain would cost like $200/year

As a policy, any .KIDS website that snuck in porn, and after a review process, would lose the domain.

.KIDS is the only effective tool that can protect children.

Some will argue that the .KIDS.US extension did some pitiful that there is no support for a .KIDS

.KIDS.US is not a good extension, and it really takes technology companies like Microsoft and AOL to put in a .KIDS filter to make this a reality.

Then ISP will offer proxy services to filter... third party products like zone alarm, norton firewall, etc could put in the white listing filter.

The senator from VA was the most tech savvy, and he said that he would rather see technology solve this problem, not congress.

Self-labelling with ICRA is great, labelling content is great.. but the problem is those that don't take that responsibility causes the problem.

And as a national study found, over 75% of free content porn comes from outside the US.. so any blacklisting filtering like .XXX just won't work...it will be like swiss cheese.

Lobbying MS and AOL is needed!


Fight the .XXX!

Tom_PM 01-19-2006 02:55 PM

Yep, .KIDS would be nowhere better policed than the adult industry itself as well IMHO.

.KIDS trying to host adult content would be like a criminal in prison for child abuse, and we all know what that means.

.XXX would simply double overnight the number of porn sites on the net. Duh.

FightThisPatent 01-19-2006 02:55 PM

The chairman was trying to point fingers at the adult industry as being the problem.

The statistics gather by asacp.org over the last 2 years,has conclusively pointed out that CP is prevalent in the US! but. it is mainstream companies that are inadvertantly hosting, billing,and domain registration for CP.

There will be more talk about the asacp.org data to government to refute the fingering pointing at adult.

Fight the numbers!

erehwon 01-19-2006 02:56 PM

Gotta love the one quote from Sen. Mark Pryor...

"I like that dot XXX"

I'm sure he does...

SykkBoy 01-19-2006 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erehwon
Gotta love the one quote from Sen. Mark Pryor...

"I like that dot XXX"

I'm sure he does...

I wonder if he also favors a .bribe domain ;-)

FightThisPatent 01-19-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2
I wonder if he also favors a .bribe domain ;-)



probably more like .contribution

:)


Fight the semantics!

d00t 01-19-2006 03:35 PM

is there a transcript or recorded cast of this?

tony286 01-19-2006 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FightThisPatent
One of the congressman asked Cambria about .KIDS that couldn't a porn site operator get a .KIDS domain and therefore gain exposure to kids.

Cambria didn't have a strong answer like he had with the other questions.

What he should have mentioned is that whoever is the registrar for .KIDS would have a review committee that would ensure that the website that owns the .KIDS domain would be screened and validated to be kid friendly.

That this registrar would also monitor the websites to ensure compliance.

This is why a .KIDS domain would cost like $200/year

As a policy, any .KIDS website that snuck in porn, and after a review process, would lose the domain.

.KIDS is the only effective tool that can protect children.

Some will argue that the .KIDS.US extension did some pitiful that there is no support for a .KIDS

.KIDS.US is not a good extension, and it really takes technology companies like Microsoft and AOL to put in a .KIDS filter to make this a reality.

Then ISP will offer proxy services to filter... third party products like zone alarm, norton firewall, etc could put in the white listing filter.

The senator from VA was the most tech savvy, and he said that he would rather see technology solve this problem, not congress.

Self-labelling with ICRA is great, labelling content is great.. but the problem is those that don't take that responsibility causes the problem.

And as a national study found, over 75% of free content porn comes from outside the US.. so any blacklisting filtering like .XXX just won't work...it will be like swiss cheese.

Lobbying MS and AOL is needed!


Fight the .XXX!

I cant believe Cambria didnt say porn site operators dont want kids exposed to their sites and only want adults duh.Also the biggest preditors of children online are in mainstream chatrooms not on porn sites. Fuck this pisses me off.

mikeyddddd 01-19-2006 08:02 PM

The program is going to repeat at 10:25 PM ET on C-SPAN.


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