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Old 01-16-2006, 07:28 AM   #1
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Chris Wilson throws in the towel

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It is with some sadness, but much relief, that I can finally announce a resolution of the criminal charges arising out of the NTFU website. The serious felony charge has been dropped, and all but 5 of the misdemeanor charges were dismissed. I?ve entered a no-contest plea to these remaining misdemeanor charges, and agreed to pay certain costs and accept a term of probation in connection with the settlement. One of those terms will require me to close down this site after about 3 months, once existing subscriptions expire. Until then, we will continue to offer the best in amateur erotic content and uncensored news. I will then be moving on to other things in life, after the close out period.

I cannot begin to thank my supporters enough. They have helped me get through a difficult time, and put up an aggressive defense against this prosecution. As a result, we were able to reach a favorable resolution of this matter, which avoids any jail time or any felony conviction. It is often said that a sign of a good settlement is where neither party is particularly happy with the result. That is a good description of what happened with my case. While I?m not exactly ?happy? about all the elements of the settlement, I am extremely relieved that the case is over.Thanks again for your help and support during the prosecution, and enjoy the next 3 months.
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I wonder if he will sell the site?
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He should just move and run the site from somewhere else.
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He should just move and run the site from somewhere else.

There is nowhere to hide from big brother......
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He should just move and run the site from somewhere else.

If it was making good bank, I would in a second.
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I'm sure he's glad that it's over, but they won if he takes the site completely down. Uncensored news should be just that. Allowing them to force him into closing the entire site down do to pressure is giving up his freedom of speech.

I know it's easy to talk the talk when you're not walking the walk.. I think I'm hard headed enough that I would leave that page up with out the adult material as he agreed upon.. But rather turn it into a political statement for freedom of speech.
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I'm sure he's glad that it's over, but they won if he takes the site completely down. Uncensored news should be just that. Allowing them to force him into closing the entire site down do to pressure is giving up his freedom of speech.

I know it's easy to talk the talk when you're not walking the walk.. I think I'm hard headed enough that I would leave that page up with out the adult material as he agreed upon.. But rather turn it into a political statement for freedom of speech.

But he would could have won, that's what pisses me off.
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Boy there are sure a lot of brave big boys here!! Having that much jail time over your head the big ass money that it takes and taken to get him somewhat out of trouble I can assure that 95% of the folks here would of caved in way before him!

He did good imo and don't blame him at all!! *shrugs*

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But he would could have won, that's what pisses me off.
Well it was his fight and as I said it's easy to talk the talk if you don't have to walk the walk. Not everyone in this biz has the ability to fight off govt attacks like say Larry Flynt did. Sometimes you just have to know when it's best for yourself to back down.

Sometimes the only choice is to give in so you don't ruin the rest of your life. However you can always hit them back from behind once they stop beating on you.

That's why if it were me I'd turn the page into exactly what they don't want it to be.. A anti war statement and pro freedom of speech website.
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Boy there are sure a lot of brave big boys here!! Having that much jail time over your head the big ass money that it takes and taken to get him somewhat out of trouble I can assure that 95% of the folks here would of caved in way before him! He did good imo and don't blame him at all!! *shrugs*

As someone mentioned, move out. If it was my site, I would move. I make too much from my site to quit and work some 9 to 5 job. Way too much.

BTW, Here is another news story...

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/techn...logy-headlines
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Well it was his fight and as I said it's easy to talk the talk if you don't have to walk the walk. Not everyone in this biz has the ability to fight off govt attacks like say Larry Flynt did. Sometimes you just have to know when it's best for yourself to back down. Sometimes the only choice is to give in so you don't ruin the rest of your life. However you can always hit them back from behind once they stop beating on you. That's why if it were me I'd turn the page into exactly what they don't want it to be.. A anti war statement and pro freedom of speech website.

You know, I hate that reply ... "walk the walk". There is always more than one way to fight. I would move out if it was my site ... I make too much off my ONE site to work some 9 to 5.
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Fuck, he can't sell it... "Authorities wanted control of the Web address so that no one else could use it to distribute adult material."
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As someone mentioned, move out. If it was my site, I would move. I make too much from my site to quit and work some 9 to 5 job. Way too much.

BTW, Here is another news story...

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As part of his plea agreement, Wilson cannot have dealings with Internet businesses that relate to "adult" or nude content while on probation. With about 20 credit hours of college behind him, he said Friday that he is considering some other opportunities in the media but would not elaborate


Now that is scary, and I feel for him,
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He does and it has always been overseas.
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You know, I hate that reply ... "walk the walk". There is always more than one way to fight. I would move out if it was my site ... I make too much off my ONE site to work some 9 to 5.
The only thing I agree is the 9-5! I could never go back to a 9-5 job I could NEVER make enough to pay a baby sitter and I would lose way too much time with my kids. If it was me, I could not move, having custody of two kids, family that depends on me, my mom is disabled and I have to help take care of her, and my grandparents so moving could never be a choice for me!

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The only thing I agree is the 9-5! I could never go back to a 9-5 job I could NEVER make enough to pay a baby sitter and I would lose way too much time with my kids. If it was me, I could not move, having custody of two kids, family that depends on me, my mom is disabled and I have to help take care of her, and my grandparents so moving could never be a choice for me!

If family is more important, then you would have to leave it.
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The goverment won. They got what they wanted and I think this is just the beginning. Probably pretty shortly we are going to hear about there next target. I understand why he settled. His family was probably going through hell, his life consisted of sitting in jail, probably looking at financial debt for years to come. The goverment is going to start targeting the little guy because they know that they will lose against people like Larry Flynt who have the money to fight them.
Fuck, if they did that to me I'd be bankrupt in a couple months trying to pay the legal bills and would have to settle. With a wife to take care off and kids to feed I wouldnt be able to afford the battle.
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Boy there are sure a lot of brave big boys here!! Having that much jail time over your head the big ass money that it takes and taken to get him somewhat out of trouble I can assure that 95% of the folks here would of caved in way before him!

He did good imo and don't blame him at all!! *shrugs*

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So I'm part of the 5 % ...

And if that " part " didn't exist and fight back, you wouldn't be here today on this board ... you would be selling shoes
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To bad he has to give up the domain. Hard to start anything if you don't have any thing to start from.
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He had that ... it kept the site up ... but didn't protect him..

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last I checked, they are still selling domains for like 8 bucks I think, someone confirmed that for me please. Every single person starts with nothing.
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He had that ... it kept the site up ... but didn't protect him.. He would have to leave the USA to continue .

That isn't known yet.
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last I checked, they are still selling domains for like 8 bucks I think, someone confirmed that for me please.

Not my point. BTW, my host sells domains for $3.
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Boy there are sure a lot of brave big boys here!! Having that much jail time over your head the big ass money that it takes and taken to get him somewhat out of trouble I can assure that 95% of the folks here would of caved in way before him!

He did good imo and don't blame him at all!! *shrugs*

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Me too. If he stuck it out to the end, I would have.
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It's pretty unbelievable that people suggest move out instead of standing up
against the goverment that is taking away your freedoms step by step. The
freedoms you're own ancestors have fought so hard for.

No offense but it puzzles me
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No offense but it puzzles me

Fighting would always be my first option, but we're talking about he quiting and what he should do or what else he could have done.
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U know.. Canada would be a nice place to move..... you pay yer taxes up there and you actually get something in return. Instead u pay a shit load of taxes here and people are allowed to try to throw u in jail because of thier religious views.. depending on which county yer in (which is just unfuckingbelievable), we are CONSTANTLY having to lobby and fight for basic common sense rights and everyone wants to put thier nose and thier beliefs in your face and force you to follow them. Its just rediculous... Chris, take yer site, and take yerself up to Canada or some other REAL CIVILIZED country and start your website back up and give ole PORK County Florida the finger.
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I do not have children so IF the site was making good money, I would of left. Piss on the country that didn't want me.
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I dont blame him but all the attention the site has gotten I would turn it into a drudge report type site. The name is perfect for it and sell advertising, do google ad words .He would probably make more and doesnt have to deal with porn bullshit laws again. Thats what I would do.
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I dont blame him but all the attention the site has gotten I would turn it into a drudge report type site. The name is perfect for it and sell advertising, do google ad words .He would probably make more and doesnt have to deal with porn bullshit laws again. Thats what I would do.

He has to give them the domain.
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Are you sure from what I read he can keep the site with the wars pics but no adult, it said that in article I read.
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Fighting would always be my first option, but we're talking about he quiting and what he should do or what else he could have done.
Do you have a extra $250k or more that you don't mind pissing away? Cases like this cost a hell of a lot of money. In a case like this, you have to spend all that money just to prove you are innocent and the best part is... Even if you win, you don't get shit back..

Freedom of speech and Justice for all is only for the rich in America. If you don't have big bucks like I'm betting he doesn't, it's un likely you could stand up and fight a case like this with out financially ruining yourself for a very long time.

That being said, there are other ways to fight this kind of thing, and I for one would have never agreed to give up the domain name.
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Do you have a extra $250k or more that you don't mind pissing away? Cases like this cost a hell of a lot of money. In a case like this, you have to spend all that money just to prove you are innocent and the best part is... Even if you win, you don't get shit back.. Freedom of speech and Justice for all is only for the rich in America. If you don't have big bucks like I'm betting he doesn't, it's un likely you could stand up and fight a case like this with out financially ruining yourself for a very long time. That being said, there are other ways to fight this kind of thing, and I for one would have never agreed to give up the domain name.

I have been in court before, sued and been sued. This wouldn't have cost $250K. If Chris is paying $250k for a lawyer, he has bigger problems than polk county.
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The DNS option shows up aftere about 24 hours or so.

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Are you sure from what I read he can keep the site with the wars pics but no adult, it said that in article I read.
No, i read one that states, he is able to keep running the site for 90 days then he has to turn the domain over to them.

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Old 01-16-2006, 10:44 AM   #45
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I have been in court before, sued and been sued. This wouldn't have cost $250K. If Chris is paying $250k for a lawyer, he has bigger problems than polk county.
you been sued by the government? wow
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Old 01-16-2006, 10:45 AM   #46
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Do you have a extra $250k or more that you don't mind pissing away? Cases like this cost a hell of a lot of money. In a case like this, you have to spend all that money just to prove you are innocent and the best part is... Even if you win, you don't get shit back..

Freedom of speech and Justice for all is only for the rich in America. If you don't have big bucks like I'm betting he doesn't, it's un likely you could stand up and fight a case like this with out financially ruining yourself for a very long time.

That being said, there are other ways to fight this kind of thing, and I for one would have never agreed to give up the domain name.
First you are right about being for the rich they had videos of rkelly fucking 14 yr old girls and he is making albums going on tour.
Joe franics girls gone wild shooting underage girls they knew were underage nothing so far.
For either things most of us would be sitting in jail for so long.
Once again I dont think he had to give up the domain.
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Old 01-16-2006, 10:47 AM   #47
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Are you sure from what I read he can keep the site with the wars pics but no adult, it said that in article I read.
here you go, was trying to find it -

"Christopher Wilson, 28, agreed to turn over the Web domain name to the Polk County Sheriff's Office and plead no contest to five counts of possession of obscene materials, the Orlando Sentinel reported."

http://www.local6.com/news/6071698/detail.html

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Old 01-16-2006, 10:49 AM   #48
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here you go, was trying to find it -

"Christopher Wilson, 28, agreed to turn over the Web domain name to the Polk County Sheriff's Office and plead no contest to five counts of possession of obscene materials, the Orlando Sentinel reported."

http://www.local6.com/news/6071698/detail.html

oh ok I read on xbiz it didnt talk about that.Oh that sucks that name would of made a great news site.
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Old 01-16-2006, 11:00 AM   #49
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This is a calssic example of "I don't have enough money to BUY my right to a legal defence". this really sucks.
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Didnt the Free Speech Coalition represent him at some point?
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