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AdPatron 01-16-2006 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett
Do you have a extra $250k or more that you don't mind pissing away? Cases like this cost a hell of a lot of money. In a case like this, you have to spend all that money just to prove you are innocent and the best part is... Even if you win, you don't get shit back.. Freedom of speech and Justice for all is only for the rich in America. If you don't have big bucks like I'm betting he doesn't, it's un likely you could stand up and fight a case like this with out financially ruining yourself for a very long time. That being said, there are other ways to fight this kind of thing, and I for one would have never agreed to give up the domain name.


I have been in court before, sued and been sued. This wouldn't have cost $250K. If Chris is paying $250k for a lawyer, he has bigger problems than polk county.

directfiesta 01-16-2006 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Stallion
which host is that?

2.95 will get you domains.

The DNS option shows up aftere about 24 hours or so.

https://secure.ipower.com/cgi-bin/hosting/domain.cgi

Manowar 01-16-2006 10:42 AM

he should sell it

AdultX 01-16-2006 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404
Are you sure from what I read he can keep the site with the wars pics but no adult, it said that in article I read.

No, i read one that states, he is able to keep running the site for 90 days then he has to turn the domain over to them.

:2 cents:

Veterans Day 01-16-2006 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic
I have been in court before, sued and been sued. This wouldn't have cost $250K. If Chris is paying $250k for a lawyer, he has bigger problems than polk county.

you been sued by the government? wow

tony286 01-16-2006 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett
Do you have a extra $250k or more that you don't mind pissing away? Cases like this cost a hell of a lot of money. In a case like this, you have to spend all that money just to prove you are innocent and the best part is... Even if you win, you don't get shit back..

Freedom of speech and Justice for all is only for the rich in America. If you don't have big bucks like I'm betting he doesn't, it's un likely you could stand up and fight a case like this with out financially ruining yourself for a very long time.

That being said, there are other ways to fight this kind of thing, and I for one would have never agreed to give up the domain name.

First you are right about being for the rich they had videos of rkelly fucking 14 yr old girls and he is making albums going on tour.
Joe franics girls gone wild shooting underage girls they knew were underage nothing so far.
For either things most of us would be sitting in jail for so long.
Once again I dont think he had to give up the domain.

AdultX 01-16-2006 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404
Are you sure from what I read he can keep the site with the wars pics but no adult, it said that in article I read.

here you go, was trying to find it -

"Christopher Wilson, 28, agreed to turn over the Web domain name to the Polk County Sheriff's Office and plead no contest to five counts of possession of obscene materials, the Orlando Sentinel reported."

http://www.local6.com/news/6071698/detail.html

:winkwink:

tony286 01-16-2006 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultX
here you go, was trying to find it -

"Christopher Wilson, 28, agreed to turn over the Web domain name to the Polk County Sheriff's Office and plead no contest to five counts of possession of obscene materials, the Orlando Sentinel reported."

http://www.local6.com/news/6071698/detail.html

:winkwink:

oh ok I read on xbiz it didnt talk about that.Oh that sucks that name would of made a great news site.

fr0gman 01-16-2006 11:00 AM

This is a calssic example of "I don't have enough money to BUY my right to a legal defence". this really sucks.

Splum 01-16-2006 11:06 AM

Didnt the Free Speech Coalition represent him at some point?

AdPatron 01-16-2006 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day
you been sued by the government? wow


You're a dumbass.

Veterans Day 01-16-2006 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic
You're a dumbass.

if you ever got pinned by the Gov they would break your shit talking ass in a heartbeat, baller :1orglaugh

AdPatron 01-16-2006 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day
if you ever got pinned by the Gov they would break your shit talking ass in a heartbeat, baller :1orglaugh



You know nothing. Do some research before you open your mouth.

Veterans Day 01-16-2006 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic
You know nothing. Do some research before you open your mouth.

nothing to research, if the Gov wants to break you, they can and will. NOONE has more time and money than them. I thought this was common knowledge.

AdPatron 01-16-2006 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day
nothing to research, if the Gov wants to break you, they can and will. NOONE has more time and money than them. I thought this was common knowledge.


Prove it.

AdPatron 01-16-2006 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day
nothing to research, if the Gov wants to break you, they can and will. NOONE has more time and money than them. I thought this was common knowledge.



BTW, this is Polk County. Many cities and counties have been broken by lawsuits.

fuzebox 01-16-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HomoErectus
U know.. Canada would be a nice place to move..... you pay yer taxes up there and you actually get something in return.

You mean you pay your taxes and the lazy ass dregs of society get something in return.

AdPatron 01-16-2006 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox
You mean you pay your taxes and the lazy ass dregs of society get something in return.


LOL. I think it's that way every where except countries where no one pays taxes.

tony286 01-16-2006 11:28 AM

I got figure with the lawyer who was representing him , who always came off to me as very money hungry. Probably threw frighteningly large numbers at Chris at what this would cost and the large chunk he would want up front. So I can see taking the deal. The big talk I would fight to the end works if your very rich or your lawyer is a crusader who is in it mainly for the fight not the money because he wants to make history and social change.There aren't many of that type lol

pornguy 01-16-2006 11:36 AM

I think that this was a major mistake. However what is the information that we DO NOT KNOW, that his attorney advised him to take the plea.

AdPatron 01-16-2006 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404
I got figure with the lawyer who was representing him , who always came off to me as very money hungry. Probably threw frighteningly large numbers at Chris at what this would cost and the large chunk he would want up front. So I can see taking the deal. The big talk I would fight to the end works if your very rich or your lawyer is a crusader who is in it mainly for the fight not the money because he wants to make history and social change.There aren't many of that type lol


My last lawyer I fired because he wouldn't find an end. The following week I went to see their lawyer, we drew up the contract, and it was over.

You have to be tough with some lawyers. They are YOUR employee. Be the boss or fire them.

directfiesta 01-16-2006 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day
you been sued by the government? wow

I have been sued by " The Majesty the Queen Elisabeth 2 " .... in 1983.

and WOW you ...

Veterans Day 01-16-2006 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
I have been sued by " The Majesty the Queen Elisabeth 2 " .... in 1983.

and WOW you ...

another baller, wow :1orglaugh

AdPatron 01-16-2006 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day
another baller, wow :1orglaugh


What a come back. So original.

directfiesta 01-16-2006 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day
another baller, wow :1orglaugh

You weren't even borned ....

For Montrealers, it involved the bar " Les Amazones" , ownership of Sergiakis and my company ( distributing cassettes in topless bars and hotels ).

So go suck a cock, uselless hole.

eroswebmaster 01-16-2006 11:55 AM

You guys are seeing what I have been talking about on this board for quite some time.

I said it during my first year on this board that they will start bringing RICO charges against people. The responses were always the same..*buried heads* or "RICO investigations take years."

Well, the government was willing to move rather quickly ont his one.

And I guarantee you this will not be the last RICO charge we'll see.

Another thing I have been mentioning for years now, is that a lot of people here don't recall what it was like during the Reagan era.

For one most were still in elementary school or diapers, but when the Meese report came out about porn the Reagan administration made some moves which had a trickle down effect across the country.

City governments started to go after adult related businesses using zoning ordinances, it killed most of the adult business in Dallas, there are still a few standing but not nearly as much as there were before this.

There to this day is still no "porn" being sold in Fort Worth, someone opened up one store in Kennedale which is just on the outskirts, but no where directly in the city.

I still remember to this day, going into the adult shop in downtown Fort Worth I had rented a video the previous week, and came back for another. When I arrived home it was censored.

I went back to the video store and the owner sat there and denied ever having any uncensored videos in his store ever. It was like the twilight zone. And the look on his face was of fear, I didn't realise what happened until later and he must have thought I was working Vice under cover or something.

Government has not necessarily unlimited resources, but they can put the hurt on a business by shutting you down for days, or keep you constantly in court paying your attorney and it can get quite expensive.

They won't get you on obscenity necessarily, or you may win, but at what cost?
Your business gets shut down in the process either way if you are not able to adequately cover the cost of the defense.

So while I would have loved to see this guy fight the battle for us, I can understand why he would have given up.

He could have stuck it out for the next couple of years going in and out of jail, and be broke in the end, or get out now and take the money and try to develop a real life for himself instead of being a martyr for us.

Gottis 01-16-2006 11:58 AM

Now that's fucked up

Splum 01-16-2006 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gottis
Now that's fucked up

hahahaha well said

Matt 26z 01-16-2006 12:19 PM

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...on=6.0.12.1040
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He's not the only one raising this question. When news of the photos first broke, Arsalan Iftikhar of the Council on American-Islamic Relations sent a letter to Donald Rumsfeld demanding an investigation. Iftikhar now believes Wilson's arrest was a "politically motivated" solution. "It wouldn't surprise me," he says, "if the charges were there to deflect from the issue at hand: the violence suffered by the Iraqi people."

An anonymous source, claiming Pentagon access, went further: "Once the deputy chief of staff got word, a call was made to the Florida prosecutor and the governor, who of course is related to the president. A day later, [Wilson was] arrested."
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fris 01-16-2006 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic
What a come back. So original.

can you please hit me up about the ad you took down.

directfiesta 01-16-2006 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...on=6.0.12.1040
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He's not the only one raising this question. When news of the photos first broke, Arsalan Iftikhar of the Council on American-Islamic Relations sent a letter to Donald Rumsfeld demanding an investigation. Iftikhar now believes Wilson's arrest was a "politically motivated" solution. "It wouldn't surprise me," he says, "if the charges were there to deflect from the issue at hand: the violence suffered by the Iraqi people."

An anonymous source, claiming Pentagon access, went further: "Once the deputy chief of staff got word, a call was made to the Florida prosecutor and the governor, who of course is related to the president. A day later, [Wilson was] arrested."
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In all previous threads, a bunch of guys were saying the Feds had nothing to do in that ... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

AdPatron 01-16-2006 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta
In all previous threads, a bunch of guys were saying the Feds had nothing to do in that ... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


I saw the opposite.

Pleasurepays 01-16-2006 12:44 PM

BUT BUT BUT BUT.... I thought Chris was fighting for me. For all of us. Thats what his buddies kept saying while begging for money. Since he plead no contest and worked out a deal, do we get our money back now? HAHAHA!

Hornydog4cooter 01-16-2006 12:45 PM

Are the orginal pictures back up on the site? I just read a article they were. If so what did he plead guilty too?

SilentKnight 01-16-2006 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster
He could have stuck it out for the next couple of years going in and out of jail, and be broke in the end, or get out now and take the money and try to develop a real life for himself instead of being a martyr for us.

Didn't quote it all, but interesting post eros.

You mention about martyrs. After reading that, I couldn't help thinking why anyone would even consider wanting to be a martyr for the industry these days (unless you're genuinely driven by free speech principles yourself).

I would far sooner back down on these charges and then try and do an end-run around the legal system farther down the road once I'd regrouped and thought all the issues through fully (and consulted with a knowledgeable and experienced attorney).

To give Chris's ordeal a war analogy - he may have lost a small battle, but the war is far from over. I don't blame him one bit for accepting the plea agreement at this point in the game. Major kudos to him for sticking it out as long as he did...and at least attempting to stand his ground, if only for a relatively short while.

The main thing I'm still somewhat puzzled and curious about though - is how they could have made it a condition of his agreement that he wasn't to associate himself with adult-based content or activities while 'on probation'. I mean, how can they enforce something like that - a totally legal endeavour. I don't know how much of the adult stuff comprised Chris's livelihood, but it seems as though the gov't and legal system is intent on kneecapping his abilities to earn income for himself that way.

We surely seem to live in some sort of twisted, parallel universe these days where the lunatics and idiots are calling the shots and running the asylum.

12clicks 01-16-2006 01:24 PM

how silly.
he broke the law. he did exactly what all you tough talking morons would do if you were arrested from breaking the law.

eroswebmaster 01-16-2006 01:40 PM

Silent Knight I can't show I'm quoting you directly because for days now GFY has been fucked up...LOL

I can't start new posts, edit others or use the post reply button. I can only do quick replies.

Anyway here's what I'm quoting from you:
Quote:

You mention about martyrs. After reading that, I couldn't help thinking why anyone would even consider wanting to be a martyr for the industry these days (unless you're genuinely driven by free speech principles yourself).
I agree wholeheartedly. When a good part of this industry is made up of individuals like some of the miscreants here on GFY *I'm not talking about the good people mind you* but the shit talkers, the ones who behave like trolls, etc. There really isn't anyone I would take the bullet for.

No one really cared about this guy winning his court case so he could live as a free man, they only cared about this court case so they could continue to make money with a few less worries while he goes through his life savings and loses his business in the process, and quite possibly his freedom.

eroswebmaster 01-16-2006 01:42 PM

since I can't edit let me sort of restate that.

When I said "no one really cared," I'm talking about that large majority of miscreants here on GFY, the shit talkers who are talking about how he let us as an industry down.

I'll be honest. I didn't send any money to his defense fund. I don't have the extra funds to send to him, and I'm sure a good deal of people talking shit about this guy didn't send any money either.

Sure there are some, but I guarantee you the majority of the members of this community did not.

crockett 01-16-2006 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
how silly.
he broke the law. he did exactly what all you tough talking morons would do if you were arrested from breaking the law.

He didn't break any laws.. He was arrested on obscenity charges and it was never proven in a court that he was guilty of obscenity.

eroswebmaster 01-16-2006 01:47 PM

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how silly.
he broke the law. he did exactly what all you tough talking morons would do if you were arrested from breaking the law.
Probably only one of the things I'll ever agree with 12clicks about.

If it came time for me to decide between my freedom, and the continued financial security of my family or running a porn site. I would have chosen my freedom as would have most here.


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