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bu((aneer

01-15-2006 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

If you want full story feel free to ICQ me and Ill supply neccessary prooof.. I am sick of people telling me stories about what happened to them that it also happened to me. When I was unaware and brand new in this buisness of dvd retail..Arnold Stein from Arizona, approached me and gave me this great speech about distributing my dvds. Well to make a long story short, He had us ship 600 dvds out to his

This guy is a piece of human shit and thrives on new people in this end of the biz who do not know any better. So stay clear of his bullshit. More to come im sure.

Many of the retailers I deal with now say they refuse to deal with him. So

why is it that you always have issues with somebody????

Sebastian Sands

01-15-2006 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lukemason

Funny anyone at AMA Should call anyone ells Shysters
Liars and Crooks Those in Glass Houses Should Not
Throw Stones .

OO And

PS: The Reason That AMA Booth was not at AEE this year
is Arnold Stein of Old Pueblo Distribution had a restraining order placed agents JOE .

Ok, let me say this, I do not know Joe personally nor do we have a business relationship. I only know him from the boards and from his company (websites DVD's I have seen).

I know that Arnold has restraining orders against several people , funny how they are all people who he had business with. Also all people he owes money too. Arnold is a chicken when it comes to following through on his promises. For him it is an easy way out to not be bothered by someone calling him or visiting him demanding money. That is all it is. I do not know Joe but I do know most of the people in the list I made in my previous post and cases are all similar. Just my :2 cents:

amacontent

01-15-2006 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lukemason

LOL um no the reason we didnt do our booth is we signed with EXQUISTE and they asked if we could represent ourselves along with our contract girl Nautica there. Theres no restraining order. Ive never recieved one. Funny how he uses this restaining order thing to try and keep people away. You see this is how he works..he fucks you over , then puts out restarining order so you dont kick his ass for fucking him over.

Learn what your talking about DUMB FUCK before you open that cum hole of yours.

valentine

01-16-2006 05:19 AM

First thanks joe for putting my email on GYI. and the Bareback dont know who you are but the only people who dont like us are th eone that ripped us off. Not sure who you are real names help. But on the bigger not me and joe both have the fake restaining order aginst us from OP. Arnold dont even own the co. some guy named gilbert. But this guy is still getting new producers he has even bounced a ton of checks to AVN and they doa story on him for AEE. Me and Joe may not liek each other but we would both rather have the money we got ripped off for

Sebastian Sands

01-16-2006 10:59 AM

It won't be long before there is a follow up. Gene Ross wrote about this thread here http://www.********.com/read.aspx?ID=14005 Stein is an advertiser with them so we will see how "sided" Stein's responds will be.

Ditto

01-16-2006 11:24 AM

Wow you guys are making ******** with this thread, being from AZ I heard alot of bad stuff about Arnold, but had no clue he screwed over this many people, be funny to see what he has to say :winkwink:

amacontent

01-16-2006 11:38 AM

To tell you thr truth, i dont care what Arnold Stien has to say. I will never see my money from him but all I want to do is stop 1 person from dealing with him and ill be happy.

valentine

01-16-2006 11:59 AM

Hell stop one person from dealing with him nevr happen. People will goto him hey we all got scamed. But he has his new people paying the bills Rebecca Hilton to name a few. Arnie aka Jack the raper. One day i will find out how much he stole. Hell he even listed our videos on Hotmovies and said they were his several times. Like i said never done biz with Joe dont like him but no reason to steal his , mine or your movies. Arnie is good for pulling the strings from far away.

And like i say if you dont like me dont by my movies. And sebastian Summer says thanks for your support she will be out of action for another 2 weeks for Kemo treatment.

Ditto

01-16-2006 05:18 PM

Well seems like the list against Arnold gets longer and longer, guess some people get so greedy its sad.

Hope Summer does ok on her treatments too!!

valentine

01-16-2006 08:27 PM

Yip it does. But Gene Ross is being accused of arnold of hurting his biz by posting the thread. Now GENE IS a hardass especialy on me but he does report whats said. What am i suposed to do with these bounced checks from Old Pueblo ???

thanks for Summer she will be on her new radio show with Ron Jeremy in 2 weeks.

JFK	01-16-2006 09:09 PM

Fitty Scam alerts :thumbsup

The Adult Broker

01-16-2006 09:27 PM

noted! thank you.

lisa sparks

01-16-2006 09:43 PM

[QUOTE=Sebastian Sands]We all know that Summer Haze has an attitude and doesn't give a shit what people think about her. Good for her, but when it comes to business I can tell yo uthat she is right. A few years ago I started in the DVD business as well and got bend over nicely by Arnold Stein and fucked in the ass with no lube.

Check out all the press releases he puts out presenting new producers, then when you seen all those check which ones are still releasing titles through them.

Lisa Sparxxx, One movie released then it went silent.

QUOTE]

Please don't group me in this mess. I have not had a problem with Arnold. The reason I have not released more titles is simply because of me. I have not had time to sit down and make any more movies.

I have released two titles with OPD. I get paid once a month and never had a check bounced on me. Ok I wont say never, my first one did. Believe me I was not thrilled and the problem was solved the next day. But other than smooth sailing.

Ditto

01-17-2006 12:21 PM

Bouncing check are not good no matter how you say it :winkwink:

lisa sparks

01-17-2006 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ditto

Bouncing check are not good no matter how you say it :winkwink:

Over two years ago and shit happens. Hell I screw up more than that. Not going to hold a grude over one check. Half the porn production companies would have issues as well.

As most talent know, we have companies such as Metro that we have to go after to collect our fees and bounced checks. Probably why they don't have any more contract girls who knows lol.

Easton

01-17-2006 04:04 PM

very interesting reading from all sides of this debacle... and just as we are looking to get a DVD distribution deal for some of our sites... not sure with who yet

mrxp	01-19-2006 11:07 PM

I should capitize on all this & make a reality show

C H R I S

01-20-2006 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Where and at what quantity? I was talking about DVD-9, since to do a decent 2 hour DVD-5 means compressing the hell out of the data.

If DVD-9 can be done at less than a dollar, e-mail me and get some business.

Even so, why sell your content at $6 a pop, even if you save .75 cents on the replication? Producers need to hold the line...

ADG Webmaster

Hit me up on ICQ or e-mail and I'll hook you up....

Sebastian Sands

01-21-2006 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Easton

very interesting reading from all sides of this debacle... and just as we are looking to get a DVD distribution deal for some of our sites... not sure with who yet

Easton, hit me up on ICQ when you have a few.

RichardMann

02-27-2006 11:44 PM

i can learn something here

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands

The 17k example was in the above situation. Ofcourse it depends on the quality of your product, the niche you are in etc plenty of factors that make your product worth a certain amount of money.

Look at it this way, let's say you have a good title and it cost you 15k like you just stated. then the first 15 k you make is breaking even. I assume you do that on the web now. (I am assuming because I do not know your situation, so don't take it wrong). then there is your DVD distribution deal. A good title could do 5000 pieces US based sales. Let's keep the $6.00 price per pc. That's 30k. Then a good distributor will make foreign deals. Some distributors sell pieces to other distributors in foreign countries but a GOOD distributor will sell a license for a particular country.

Now you start pulling in some serious cash, Holland about $1500 per title, Germany about $5000 per title, Italy about $3500 per title. Well you get the idea, once you are doen whoring your title out that cost you 15 k you can made that back times 10.

The trick is not to get screwed over, how do you know if your distibutor sold a license to some country you never heard about for a few G's? It's a tricky business.

I am not trying to attack you AsianDivaGirlsWebDude, just showing you that when done right there is a ton of money in DVD's. And then we are not even talking about all the other rights a good distributor sells. Pay Per View channels. Hotel chains etc.

I'm sooo glad i got on this fourm, i see i can learn a lot here. im comig out with my first title real soon and looking for ways to get it out there. I have been talent for about 2 years and have done just a lil work but now ready to go further. thanks for posting good info like tis yall

footmonkey

05-31-2006 12:36 AM

Bump!

Any news on the OPD thing?

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