Wordpress Blog with 80K aboard overloads P4 2.8 server - GoFuckYourself.com

rednet · 03-18-2006, 04:02 PM

Hi all,

i have a server:

CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz,
1 GB ram,
SCSI HDD

my site has about 100K uniques daily aboard...
script - wordpress blog, no other scripts used

my server is overloaded, almost down... is it normal for such amounts of traffic and my config described above?

thank you

tenderobject · 03-18-2006, 04:04 PM

whats your bandiwdth?

KingK7 · 03-18-2006, 04:04 PM

I think I read something about wordpress causing some sort of memory leak, might wanna search on that, not sure...

JD · 03-18-2006, 04:07 PM

holy shit. what kind of site is it? is it an actual blog or are you using wordpress as something else?

mrkris · 03-18-2006, 04:08 PM

rednet, hit me up on ICQ and I'll give you a hand

rednet · 03-18-2006, 04:08 PM

bandwidth is about 10-11 Megabits (2-2.5 terabytes monthly)

baddog · 03-18-2006, 04:09 PM

something is wrong, no way should you be having trouble

patmccrotch · 03-18-2006, 04:13 PM

http://mnm.uib.es/gallir/wp-cache-2/

slap that on there and you should see not only a speed up in the page loading, but also a lightened load on the server.

JD · 03-18-2006, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

something is wrong, no way should you be having trouble

i'm thinking the same thing.

rednet · 03-18-2006, 04:21 PM

does anybody have blogs with over 100K aboard on wordpress script?

and what server configs do you use?

crockett · 03-18-2006, 04:22 PM

I think you can run into problems with scripts like wordpress on high traffic sites, if you use permalinks.

fris · 03-18-2006, 04:24 PM

you probably want to tweak /etc/my.cnf for mysql, increase max connections, the amount of memory.

tweak your httpd.conf and change the startservrs min and max, and a few other options.

also you should edit php.ini to increase the memory size, its defaulted by 8M which is way too low, you should have a minimum of 64M.

hope that helps

mrkris · 03-18-2006, 04:28 PM

fris: he has 75mb of ram free. start servers are at 60, spare at 90. He needs more ram otherwise he will swap out.

Violetta · 03-18-2006, 04:32 PM

that's a lot of traffic, but shouldt fuck it up!

mrkris · 03-18-2006, 04:33 PM

Wordpress has poorly written queries which results in many bottlenecks. If your apache processes sit there waiting for MySQL to finish, you will be getting hit with more requests than you have apache processes, which is why many people get the timeouts to sites.

fris · 03-18-2006, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris

fris: he has 75mb of ram free. start servers are at 60, spare at 90. He needs more ram otherwise he will swap out.

here is what i have for apache.

Timeout 300
KeepAlive On
MaxKeepAliveRequests 500
KeepAliveTimeout 5
MinSpareServers 5
MaxSpareServers 20
StartServers 8
MaxClients 450
MaxRequestsPerChild 1000

also if he is running freebsd, the defult maxusers is pretty low, which only allows 64 procs running, you may want to recompile kernel to allow many more

kern.maxfiles grows comparing the current value of maxusers

maxusers =1 means you can have 36 procs running at once including the 18 at bootup.

setting to 64 will allow 1044 procs, remember each time the web server spawns another server, it grows, so its gonna be heavy down if your apache isnt tweaked.

might wanna tweak kern.ipc.somaxconn also.

the variable for the amount to listen for tcp connections, this should be set to 1024

also wanna look at NMBCLUSTERS if you have that set low, it will definatly have an impact.

NMBCLUSTERS variable tells how many mbufs available.

that should be all.

this is for freebsd, as all my boxes are freebsd.

64 maxusers =

JD · 03-18-2006, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris

Wordpress has poorly written queries which results in many bottlenecks. If your apache processes sit there waiting for MySQL to finish, you will be getting hit with more requests than you have apache processes, which is why many people get the timeouts to sites.

YOU'RE POORLY WRITTEN!

jrap · 03-18-2006, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patmccrotch

http://mnm.uib.es/gallir/wp-cache-2/

slap that on there and you should see not only a speed up in the page loading, but also a lightened load on the server.

Thanks for the link

Very easy to install, awsome

Murderous · 03-18-2006, 05:20 PM

Turn that 80k into 160k with a Theme from Bangman, SEE SIG.

Also....

You wouldn't be interested in trading hard links would ya? ;)

JD · 03-18-2006, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murderous

Turn that 80k into 160k with a Theme from Bangman, SEE SIG.

Thanks for the laugh

tokugawa · 03-18-2006, 05:45 PM

You should also consider indexing some tables in your mySql database.

Doctor Dre · 03-18-2006, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murderous

Turn that 80k into 160k with a Theme from Bangman, SEE SIG.

Also....

You wouldn't be interested in trading hard links would ya? ;)

Isn't he selling the same theme in diff versions over and over ?

tedwinters · 03-18-2006, 06:25 PM

yeah, it's probably your mod-rewrites that are overloading it.. the .htaccess

Love Sex · 03-18-2006, 06:34 PM

bookmark

pr0 · 03-18-2006, 06:36 PM

hit up brian at vintagehost, ([email protected]) or on aim "vintage support"

he will figure out the problem & tweak your server for a nominal fee

Probono · 03-18-2006, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patmccrotch

http://mnm.uib.es/gallir/wp-cache-2/

slap that on there and you should see not only a speed up in the page loading, but also a lightened load on the server.

Thanks for the plugin!!!

Nasty · 03-18-2006, 08:16 PM

That doesnt seem normal, that machine should be able to handle a couple of sites like that, something is wrong somewhere

Cyberhuss · 03-18-2006, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

holy shit. what kind of site is it? is it an actual blog or are you using wordpress as something else?

SPeRMiNaToR, I'm working on a new site and need some help with wordpress, could you help me out?

uni9 · 03-18-2006, 08:48 PM

Thats alot of traffic. I personally use wordpress ALOT but I've never had any troubles although my numbers have never reached that high.

4Pics · 03-18-2006, 10:45 PM

pretty sure it's normal for wp with high traffic to have problems, you need to cache the front page and you will eliminate a buncha the headaches and also do some of the mysql/apache tweaks suggested.

I don't think it was designed for adult traffic.

JD · 03-18-2006, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberhuss

SPeRMiNaToR, I'm working on a new site and need some help with wordpress, could you help me out?

possibly. hit me on icq

IceMaster · 03-19-2006, 12:11 AM

Add more Ram.

Rictor · 03-19-2006, 12:14 AM

I put 3 or 4 Wordpress blogs on one server...small blogs...and it overloaded the server...the script has issues.

Antonio · 03-19-2006, 03:59 AM

next time use a flat database blogging script .......

patmccrotch · 03-19-2006, 08:52 AM

so, rednet, did any of the suggestions help?

nico-t · 03-19-2006, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patmccrotch

http://mnm.uib.es/gallir/wp-cache-2/

slap that on there and you should see not only a speed up in the page loading, but also a lightened load on the server.

thats a nice plugin, thanks for the link

tranza · 03-19-2006, 12:24 PM

What's your blog dude?

Marty_McFly · 03-19-2006, 12:28 PM

The Wordpress problems are fixed by version 5.0, hang on till then and you'll be good.

iwantchixx · 03-19-2006, 12:32 PM

if you have a lot of "pages" built with the script it will bog your shit down.

sfera · 03-19-2006, 12:41 PM

great problem to have, too much traffic lol

Gungadin · 03-19-2006, 12:45 PM

I have that problem with a wiki site that I run... after MUCH tinkering with config files, I just ended up putting a cron job in that restarts httpd every 2 hours... it means about 2 minutes of "scheduled" downtime every day but it was better than an unexpected hard crash a few times a day... and certainly better than having to put up more hardware.

03-18-2006, 04:02 PM	#1
rednet Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 82	Wordpress Blog with 80K aboard overloads P4 2.8 server Hi all, i have a server: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz, 1 GB ram, SCSI HDD my site has about 100K uniques daily aboard... script - wordpress blog, no other scripts used my server is overloaded, almost down... is it normal for such amounts of traffic and my config described above? thank you

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fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,359	you probably want to tweak /etc/my.cnf for mysql, increase max connections, the amount of memory. tweak your httpd.conf and change the startservrs min and max, and a few other options. also you should edit php.ini to increase the memory size, its defaulted by 8M which is way too low, you should have a minimum of 64M. hope that helps __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

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KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	I think I read something about wordpress causing some sort of memory leak, might wanna search on that, not sure...

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JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	holy shit. what kind of site is it? is it an actual blog or are you using wordpress as something else?

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	something is wrong, no way should you be having trouble

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patmccrotch Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: edinburgh Posts: 655	http://mnm.uib.es/gallir/wp-cache-2/ slap that on there and you should see not only a speed up in the page loading, but also a lightened load on the server.

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rednet Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 82	does anybody have blogs with over 100K aboard on wordpress script? and what server configs do you use?

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mrkris Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,737	Wordpress has poorly written queries which results in many bottlenecks. If your apache processes sit there waiting for MySQL to finish, you will be getting hit with more requests than you have apache processes, which is why many people get the timeouts to sites. __________________ PHP-MySQL-Rails \| ICQ: 342500546

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4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	pretty sure it's normal for wp with high traffic to have problems, you need to cache the front page and you will eliminate a buncha the headaches and also do some of the mysql/apache tweaks suggested. I don't think it was designed for adult traffic.

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IceMaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,920	Add more Ram.

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Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	I put 3 or 4 Wordpress blogs on one server...small blogs...and it overloaded the server...the script has issues.

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