for all of you pushing True teen babes - GoFuckYourself.com

Tanker · 04-08-2002, 07:16 PM

you might not want to be.

http://linqstream.alinq.net/pub/9new...ard-105326.asx

found this on maxcash

this has to be a scary video

http://linqstream.alinq.net/pub/9new...4-7-104731.asx

Police suspect James Steven Grady, 42, used his two businesses, "Lifestyles Photo Co." and "Denver Digital Photo Imaging," both in Sheridan, as fronts to lure underage girls with dreams of launching modeling careers.

a Centennial man was jailed on $1 million bail in the case.

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,...?search=filter

http://www.9news.com/storyfull.asp?id=1870

Tanker

Tanker · 04-08-2002, 07:18 PM

I used to run this guys site LPzip.com

after we went our seperate ways he moved into the non nude teen world

here is your answer on the non nude teens

^R3K^ · 04-08-2002, 07:27 PM

Damn.. No doubt that was a scary ass video..

klik · 04-08-2002, 07:52 PM

The girl was 15? He knew it was coming... sooner or later.
Doesn't have to be nude to be perverted. damn chilly mo's

Techie Media · 04-08-2002, 08:00 PM

Good find Tanker. Damm I bet he pissed in his pants while the raid happened. If theirs 12 thing you don't want to get locked up for is Child Porn....

This should teach a lesson to stay WAY clear anycontent even close to being controversial.

Tanker · 04-08-2002, 08:03 PM

according to that first video they raided it live on the sites webcam

boneprone · 04-08-2002, 08:06 PM

shit i own some of that content

FATPad · 04-08-2002, 08:11 PM

Good. I hope he gets ass raped in prison.

And I hope the parents that did know get time, too. Jackasses.

BruceM · 04-08-2002, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
shit i own some of that content

Yeah me too. How does this affects the licensed content that we have bought in the past?

Tanker · 04-08-2002, 08:39 PM

noone owns the content that was on true teen babes

that site doesnt sell content

BruceM · 04-08-2002, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tanker
noone owns the content that was on true teen babes

that site doesnt sell content

I, and boneprone as well I'm sure, was referring to LPZip.

spacedog · 04-08-2002, 08:49 PM

I wonder what was going on in the surfers minds as they watched the raid via webcam

Shit.. I can see all the chargebacks coming..lol

wired1 · 04-08-2002, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
shit i own some of that content

Shit!!! So do I!

jimmy3way · 04-08-2002, 10:14 PM

Shit that's funny. I talked to that guy on the phone a few years back and he told me almosty exactly what he was doing and as soon as I hung up the phone I said to myself, this guy is going to jail....

titmowse · 04-08-2002, 10:18 PM

bastard.

jimmy3way · 04-08-2002, 10:21 PM

...however I didn't actually think he was doing anything seriously illegal at the time. Geez. Fucking scary. I hope my name isn't in his Rolodex.

wired1 · 04-08-2002, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by titmowse
bastard.

I agree, quite a scumbag.

I just want to hear more about these LPzip content sets I bought...

Lensman · 04-08-2002, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tanker
I used to run this guys site LPzip.com

after we went our seperate ways he moved into the non nude teen world

here is your answer on the non nude teens

Damn Tanker, that's the SECOND bullet you dodged, the first being the whole 29 palms gay porn bust. Remember that one?

Now your buddy Jimbo.

titmowse · 04-08-2002, 10:27 PM

i would get rid of them as soon as possible. well, except maybe the liscenses. he sold you liscenses didn't he?

bhutocracy · 04-08-2002, 10:33 PM

he look EXACTLY like a guy i know....heh.. this one's doing the rounds...lol..

but seriously serves him right....
and that would have been an amazing live feed.. heheh totally unique content..

Tanker · 04-08-2002, 10:33 PM

well I have not worked with them in a year and a half

the content he shot for LPzip is good and a lot of it was brokered

so I wouldnt worry there

he started TTB this past november from what I gathered
a lot of people are pushing that program with the content that was provided to the affiliates

that is the content I would worry about if you were an affiliate of his TTB program I would remove all the content he gave you

as for the LPZIP stuff that was long befor and mostly brokered

Just my thoughts
also I think his lawyers number is on the liscenses if you are wondering about it

wired1 · 04-08-2002, 10:41 PM

Yeah, I have the liscenses, in several sets that I bought there, there is 18 U.S.C. 2257 Statements from other Photo Comapanies he must have worked with, but on the one set I have thru "Lifestyles Photo Company" I dont see any 18 U.S.C. 2257 info, address, or anything on the liscense itself, unless it was seperate and I misplaced the info...

Fuck it! I am getting rid of all of it, I just feel icky thinken I coulda had that some of that shit on my hard drive...

Lensman · 04-08-2002, 10:41 PM

Tanker, tell us about the 69 Palms thing...

kush · 04-08-2002, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by titmowse
i would get rid of them as soon as possible. well, except maybe the liscenses. he sold you liscenses didn't he?

When I enterted the biz about a year ago he was the first guy I bought content from - and if I remember correctly you just downloaded the content - I can't remember if there was a license. And, me being a newbie back then - I'm not sure I would've kept it anyways. I dont' specifically remember one though.

[Labret] · 04-08-2002, 10:51 PM

Who was doing their processing?

Was it in house or one of the big 3?

Steve · 04-08-2002, 10:52 PM

it's LPZip content, not Fresh Photos or Joker's X

I think it is safe to safe you made your money off of it, so if you have ANY doubts delete the shit.

I have had APIC tell me in the past my broker bought content is illegal, and the license is not even good for toilet paper. Win some lose some.

Oliver Klozov · 04-08-2002, 10:55 PM

That dude is so guilty its not even funny

Anything underage is a HUGE risk!

Underage is underage, period!
Parent permission does not matter.

At the very least he is guilty of being a total bonehead for thinking he could get away with it.

18 is the law for a reason, we all need to support that fully and stop guys like this that are trying to push the envelope.

This industry does not need any more bad press than we already get.

This dude knew what he was doing, he was trying to push "teen" to the very limit.

What the hell does a 15 year old girl know about anything anyways.
Tell her she's pretty and she will do most anything but that does not make it right in fact its just fucking wrong and illegal!

We all need to report guys like this and get them shut down.

I'm glad to see this happened.

titmowse · 04-08-2002, 10:59 PM

"it's LPZip content, not Fresh Photos or Joker's X "

it's also NOT ZIPCONTENT....completely different company

Fletch XXX · 04-08-2002, 11:02 PM

Wow. Those guys needed to be arrested.

One sick side thought is, I put my life savings on her becoming a stripper when she hits 18 though.

bhutocracy · 04-08-2002, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver Klozov

At the very least he is guilty of being a total bonehead for thinking he could get away with it.

iti don't see how any human with ANY sense of decency could produce a product, that while perhaps technically not illegal.. would KNOW BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that it catered to pedophiles..

Mr.Fiction · 04-08-2002, 11:12 PM

This is the guy who used to give away content to all the Max Cash webmasters, right? I think that's him.

If it is, then it's fucked up that everyone who used that free Max Cash content, and sent in the licenses, has now had those licenses, with all company info, confiscated by the police as part of an underage porn investigation.

What a fucker. Guilty or innocent, he should not have mixed adult pics and underage pics. He put himself, and a lot of Max Cash webmasters in a bad situation.

I like Max Cash, and have been using them for years, and they were probably as fucked over as the webmasters, but it sucks when you can't trust content providers that are vouched for by one of the biggest affiliate programs on the web.

Again, I'm sure Max Cash has nothing to do with this guy's actions, but it still sucks the way it went down.

If I'm wrong about this being the Max Cash webmaster free content guy, someone correct me.

jimmy3way · 04-08-2002, 11:22 PM

The way he explained it to me was that he shot fully clothed glamour shots from the one biz and then the nude stuff from aanother biz, it seemed shady to me at the time, which is why I never did any biz with the guy. But not illegal...however it's not something I would have gotten into without Johnny Cockran's home phone number, that's fa' sho.

Fletch XXX · 04-08-2002, 11:28 PM

Well since the ball is rolling - check this out - it's my favorite...

These girls are as young as 14 and CC Bill processes for them... sometimes youd think people wouldnt allow this?

http://up2-17fashion.net/portfolios2.shtml

They hide behind fashion, but 14 yeor old girls in bikinis isnt fashion in my eyes.

Gabby 14 y/o http://up2-17fashion.net/gabby2.shtml

Sorry to bring this up, hopefully some people will read this thread and maybe put a stop to this.... you should see the promo content they have... I no longer have it on my computer because it really is questionable, and they even put the age of the girl on the pics!

Shit the name of the site is "up to 17" as if that doesnt give it away.

CC Bill and IBill process for them.

http://up2-17fashion.net/join.shtml

Amazing.

SixNine · 04-08-2002, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Tanker, tell us about the 69 Palms thing...

Yea fruit loop... tell us about the 69 Palms marine porn ring...

SixNine

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playa · 04-08-2002, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
Who was doing their processing?

Was it in house or one of the big 3?

CCBILL processed them,,,,,, i knew that site was going down when it first came out,,, webmasters you all better stay away from "NON NUDE" teen sites,, WTF you think high school boys visiting them sites,,, nothing but pure CP in disguise

i hope CCBILL takes a stance on these "NON NUDE TEEN" sites
cuz now i see their account is deactivated
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ul...=1&t=008692&p=

Lensman · 04-08-2002, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixNine

Yea fruit loop... tell us about the 69 Palms marine porn ring...

SixNine

I think sixnine has got your number!

jimmy3way · 04-08-2002, 11:36 PM

You know at the Phoenix Forum the law dude gave a pretty good talk on the test for CP. He stated very clearly that of the 14 considerations for illegal content, nudity was only one of them.

Here's his link:

http://www.lawrencewalters.com/

SixNine · 04-09-2002, 12:44 AM

I was so busy fucking with Tanker I forgot to say...

I've done a fair amount of business with Jim in the past and we talked on the phone quite frequently (I considered him a friend).

He even talked about TTB before he did it, and showed it to me after it was done. Now I wish I would've told him he was being a dumb-ass instead of just thinking it and saying nothing. Maybe it would have made a difference... probably not.

Oh well... he fucked the dog, and the FBI is getting ready to crawl all the way up his ass. Next time I won't hold back.

SixNine

UnseenWorld · 04-09-2002, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wired1
Yeah, I have the liscenses, in several sets that I bought there, there is 18 U.S.C. 2257 Statements from other Photo Comapanies he must have worked with, but on the one set I have thru "Lifestyles Photo Company" I dont see any 18 U.S.C. 2257 info, address, or anything on the liscense itself, unless it was seperate and I misplaced the info...

Fuck it! I am getting rid of all of it, I just feel icky thinken I coulda had that some of that shit on my hard drive...

Destroying evidence is a felony.

Sticks · 04-09-2002, 02:49 AM

Destroying evidence may be a felony, but if that if that material is illegal and publishing it is illegal ( i.e. having it on a website )- destroying it ( i.e. ceasing to publish it ) is the right thing to do.

To that teen fashion site's credit, they say they won't accept traffic from nude sites. I wonder though, who would want to buy pix of adolecent teens posing seductively? They are selling access to dubious pix, not a fashion label or promoting the models themselves to prospective legitimate fashion agencies. CCBILL would know if the traffic is indeed coming from non-nude sites - I wonder what their policy is on this?

DarkJedi · 04-09-2002, 03:52 AM

nothing out of the ordinary - another child pornographer got busted (and he very well deserves it)

Tanker · 04-09-2002, 09:25 AM

here is another article that came out today someone just emailed it to me

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,...515216,00.html

Tanker

beemk · 04-09-2002, 10:07 AM

Quote:

A 15-year-old girl and her mother attended Grady's initial appearance Monday at the courthouse and defended him.

"In our hearts he's done nothing wrong," the girl said. "It's crazy. Jimmy is the most caring guy I ever met."

talk about shitty parents.....

E-van · 04-09-2002, 12:24 PM

Does anyone have the video of the raid in any other formats? mpeg? my puter refuses to play it...

cherrylula · 04-09-2002, 01:10 PM

What a sleazebag. Having done some LEGIT modeling as a kid (pre-paysites, years ago) I can somewhat relate and understand how the kids and parents must have perceived this guy and his operation (meaning they did not grasp what he was doing). Had I been in the same situation myself when I was say 14, and been in front of his camera, I would have definitely not had a clue about what a suggestive pose would be and oblivious to what was really going on ("spread your knees just a little wider!"). Although I will say my parents would have investigated the publishing for this venture which it seems some of them parents in this situation must have failed to do.

There is SO much money to be made in this industry, LEGALLY, that anyone who would even consider taking a risk like that is really fucking stupid. Kind of like that guy who just went to prison for picking up the 14 year old hooker and fucking her in webcam shows.... STUPID!! These people deserve to be punished and should never be allowed to work anywhere near the adult industry should they be released from jail. It makes me question why guys like that get into this industry in the first place....

The bitches or the money???????

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $

It really sickens me to see guys who get into this business just for the pussy. Kind of like bartending just to support your drinking habit. Those are the kind of people that will eternally fail, and make way for the serious business people in this industry.

(for the record- naked chicks ARE cool, but money is the priority here)

kmanrox · 04-09-2002, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tanker
I used to run this guys site LPzip.com

after we went our seperate ways he moved into the non nude teen world

here is your answer on the non nude teens

good info, thx

kimmykim, heed this...

daisy diaz · 04-09-2002, 05:46 PM

Shouldnt someone ask the girls (or the parents where the money was coming from i am sure mcdonalds doesnt paythat much)
I lost my virginity at 16...and the folks didnt know . I think there is more at fault here then one person...who really took advantage of the situation...the sick fucks who like "young girls" and funny they are still sittin fat with there wife and kids?
just me sticken my neck out again!

Tanker · 04-09-2002, 05:51 PM

the site was turned back on today

wonder why its back up and running

Juge · 04-09-2002, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightning
Good find Tanker. Damm I bet he pissed in his pants while the raid happened. If theirs 12 thing you don't want to get locked up for is Child Porn....

This should teach a lesson to stay WAY clear anycontent even close to being controversial.

You got that right.

Can you imagine being one of the subscribers watching the thing when it happened? Damn!

04-08-2002, 07:16 PM	#1
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	for all of you pushing True teen babes you might not want to be. http://linqstream.alinq.net/pub/9new...ard-105326.asx found this on maxcash this has to be a scary video http://linqstream.alinq.net/pub/9new...4-7-104731.asx Police suspect James Steven Grady, 42, used his two businesses, "Lifestyles Photo Co." and "Denver Digital Photo Imaging," both in Sheridan, as fronts to lure underage girls with dreams of launching modeling careers. a Centennial man was jailed on $1 million bail in the case. http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,...?search=filter http://www.9news.com/storyfull.asp?id=1870 Tanker

04-08-2002, 08:00 PM	#5
Techie Media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,092	Good find Tanker. Damm I bet he pissed in his pants while the raid happened. If theirs 12 thing you don't want to get locked up for is Child Porn.... This should teach a lesson to stay WAY clear anycontent even close to being controversial. __________________ sales [AT] techiemedia.com

04-08-2002, 08:03 PM	#6
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	according to that first video they raided it live on the sites webcam __________________ Tanker ICQ 3427575 CCBTools Now featured in the CCBill.com APP STORE

04-08-2002, 08:06 PM	#7
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	shit i own some of that content __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

04-08-2002, 08:11 PM	#8
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	Good. I hope he gets ass raped in prison. And I hope the parents that did know get time, too. Jackasses. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

04-08-2002, 07:18 PM	#2
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	I used to run this guys site LPzip.com after we went our seperate ways he moved into the non nude teen world here is your answer on the non nude teens

04-08-2002, 07:27 PM	#3
^R3K^ Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,815	Damn.. No doubt that was a scary ass video..

04-08-2002, 07:52 PM	#4
klik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: san diego Posts: 5,092	The girl was 15? He knew it was coming... sooner or later. Doesn't have to be nude to be perverted. damn chilly mo's

04-08-2002, 08:39 PM	#10
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	noone owns the content that was on true teen babes that site doesnt sell content

04-08-2002, 08:49 PM	#12
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	I wonder what was going on in the surfers minds as they watched the raid via webcam Shit.. I can see all the chargebacks coming..lol

04-08-2002, 10:14 PM	#14
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	Shit that's funny. I talked to that guy on the phone a few years back and he told me almosty exactly what he was doing and as soon as I hung up the phone I said to myself, this guy is going to jail.... __________________ One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.

04-08-2002, 10:18 PM	#15
titmowse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: TEXAS Posts: 5,320	bastard. __________________ I still love everybody

04-08-2002, 10:21 PM	#16
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	...however I didn't actually think he was doing anything seriously illegal at the time. Geez. Fucking scary. I hope my name isn't in his Rolodex. __________________ One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.

04-08-2002, 10:27 PM	#19
titmowse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: TEXAS Posts: 5,320	i would get rid of them as soon as possible. well, except maybe the liscenses. he sold you liscenses didn't he? __________________ I still love everybody

04-08-2002, 10:33 PM	#20
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	he look EXACTLY like a guy i know....heh.. this one's doing the rounds...lol.. but seriously serves him right.... and that would have been an amazing live feed.. heheh totally unique content..

04-08-2002, 10:41 PM	#22
wired1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Posts: 279	Yeah, I have the liscenses, in several sets that I bought there, there is 18 U.S.C. 2257 Statements from other Photo Comapanies he must have worked with, but on the one set I have thru "Lifestyles Photo Company" I dont see any 18 U.S.C. 2257 info, address, or anything on the liscense itself, unless it was seperate and I misplaced the info... Fuck it! I am getting rid of all of it, I just feel icky thinken I coulda had that some of that shit on my hard drive...

04-08-2002, 10:41 PM	#23
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Tanker, tell us about the 69 Palms thing...

04-08-2002, 10:51 PM	#25
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	Who was doing their processing? Was it in house or one of the big 3?

04-08-2002, 10:52 PM	#26
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	it's LPZip content, not Fresh Photos or Joker's X I think it is safe to safe you made your money off of it, so if you have ANY doubts delete the shit. I have had APIC tell me in the past my broker bought content is illegal, and the license is not even good for toilet paper. Win some lose some.

04-08-2002, 10:55 PM	#27
Oliver Klozov Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: San Diego, Ca. USA Posts: 629	That dude is so guilty its not even funny Anything underage is a HUGE risk! Underage is underage, period! Parent permission does not matter. At the very least he is guilty of being a total bonehead for thinking he could get away with it. 18 is the law for a reason, we all need to support that fully and stop guys like this that are trying to push the envelope. This industry does not need any more bad press than we already get. This dude knew what he was doing, he was trying to push "teen" to the very limit. What the hell does a 15 year old girl know about anything anyways. Tell her she's pretty and she will do most anything but that does not make it right in fact its just fucking wrong and illegal! We all need to report guys like this and get them shut down. I'm glad to see this happened. __________________ Babe-Bucks.com ICQ 895-80-702 oliversgirls at gmail.com

04-08-2002, 10:59 PM	#28
titmowse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: TEXAS Posts: 5,320	"it's LPZip content, not Fresh Photos or Joker's X " it's also NOT ZIPCONTENT....completely different company __________________ I still love everybody

04-08-2002, 11:02 PM	#29
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Wow. Those guys needed to be arrested. One sick side thought is, I put my life savings on her becoming a stripper when she hits 18 though. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-08-2002, 11:12 PM	#31
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	This is the guy who used to give away content to all the Max Cash webmasters, right? I think that's him. If it is, then it's fucked up that everyone who used that free Max Cash content, and sent in the licenses, has now had those licenses, with all company info, confiscated by the police as part of an underage porn investigation. What a fucker. Guilty or innocent, he should not have mixed adult pics and underage pics. He put himself, and a lot of Max Cash webmasters in a bad situation. I like Max Cash, and have been using them for years, and they were probably as fucked over as the webmasters, but it sucks when you can't trust content providers that are vouched for by one of the biggest affiliate programs on the web. Again, I'm sure Max Cash has nothing to do with this guy's actions, but it still sucks the way it went down. If I'm wrong about this being the Max Cash webmaster free content guy, someone correct me.

04-08-2002, 11:22 PM	#32
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	The way he explained it to me was that he shot fully clothed glamour shots from the one biz and then the nude stuff from aanother biz, it seemed shady to me at the time, which is why I never did any biz with the guy. But not illegal...however it's not something I would have gotten into without Johnny Cockran's home phone number, that's fa' sho. __________________ One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.

04-08-2002, 11:28 PM	#33
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Well since the ball is rolling - check this out - it's my favorite... These girls are as young as 14 and CC Bill processes for them... sometimes youd think people wouldnt allow this? http://up2-17fashion.net/portfolios2.shtml They hide behind fashion, but 14 yeor old girls in bikinis isnt fashion in my eyes. Gabby 14 y/o http://up2-17fashion.net/gabby2.shtml Sorry to bring this up, hopefully some people will read this thread and maybe put a stop to this.... you should see the promo content they have... I no longer have it on my computer because it really is questionable, and they even put the age of the girl on the pics! Shit the name of the site is "up to 17" as if that doesnt give it away. CC Bill and IBill process for them. http://up2-17fashion.net/join.shtml Amazing. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-08-2002, 11:29 PM	#35
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Registrant: up2-17fashion.net Road Atomic Kabul, 00000 ZW Domain Name: UP2-17FASHION.NET Administrative Contact: ModelManagement, up2-17fashion [email protected] Road Atomic Kabul, 00000 ZW 123-123-1234 Technical Contact: ModelManagement, up2-17fashion [email protected] Road Atomic Kabul, 00000 ZW 123-123-1234 Billing Contact: ModelManagement, up2-17fashion [email protected] Road Atomic Kabul, 00000 ZW 123-123-1234 Registration Service Provider: NEXCESS.NET, [email protected] 1-866-639-2377 Record last updated on 23-Mar-2002. Record expires on 01-Mar-2003. Record Created on 01-Mar-2001. Domain servers in listed order: NS3.NEXCESS.NET 66.197.135.2 NS4.NEXCESS.NET 66.197.165.2 __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-08-2002, 11:36 PM	#38
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	You know at the Phoenix Forum the law dude gave a pretty good talk on the test for CP. He stated very clearly that of the 14 considerations for illegal content, nudity was only one of them. Here's his link: http://www.lawrencewalters.com/ __________________ One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.

04-09-2002, 12:44 AM	#39
SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	I was so busy fucking with Tanker I forgot to say... I've done a fair amount of business with Jim in the past and we talked on the phone quite frequently (I considered him a friend). He even talked about TTB before he did it, and showed it to me after it was done. Now I wish I would've told him he was being a dumb-ass instead of just thinking it and saying nothing. Maybe it would have made a difference... probably not. Oh well... he fucked the dog, and the FBI is getting ready to crawl all the way up his ass. Next time I won't hold back. SixNine

04-09-2002, 02:49 AM	#41
Sticks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sydney, AUSTRALIA Posts: 91	Destroying evidence may be a felony, but if that if that material is illegal and publishing it is illegal ( i.e. having it on a website )- destroying it ( i.e. ceasing to publish it ) is the right thing to do. To that teen fashion site's credit, they say they won't accept traffic from nude sites. I wonder though, who would want to buy pix of adolecent teens posing seductively? They are selling access to dubious pix, not a fashion label or promoting the models themselves to prospective legitimate fashion agencies. CCBILL would know if the traffic is indeed coming from non-nude sites - I wonder what their policy is on this?

04-09-2002, 03:52 AM	#42
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	nothing out of the ordinary - another child pornographer got busted (and he very well deserves it)

04-09-2002, 09:25 AM	#43
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	here is another article that came out today someone just emailed it to me http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,...515216,00.html Tanker

04-09-2002, 12:24 PM	#45
E-van Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mex Posts: 447	Does anyone have the video of the raid in any other formats? mpeg? my puter refuses to play it... __________________ Virtual accounts 39 cents per gig! Dedicated Servers starting at 31 cents per gig

04-09-2002, 01:10 PM	#46
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	What a sleazebag. Having done some LEGIT modeling as a kid (pre-paysites, years ago) I can somewhat relate and understand how the kids and parents must have perceived this guy and his operation (meaning they did not grasp what he was doing). Had I been in the same situation myself when I was say 14, and been in front of his camera, I would have definitely not had a clue about what a suggestive pose would be and oblivious to what was really going on ("spread your knees just a little wider!"). Although I will say my parents would have investigated the publishing for this venture which it seems some of them parents in this situation must have failed to do. There is SO much money to be made in this industry, LEGALLY, that anyone who would even consider taking a risk like that is really fucking stupid. Kind of like that guy who just went to prison for picking up the 14 year old hooker and fucking her in webcam shows.... STUPID!! These people deserve to be punished and should never be allowed to work anywhere near the adult industry should they be released from jail. It makes me question why guys like that get into this industry in the first place.... The bitches or the money??????? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $ It really sickens me to see guys who get into this business just for the pussy. Kind of like bartending just to support your drinking habit. Those are the kind of people that will eternally fail, and make way for the serious business people in this industry. (for the record- naked chicks ARE cool, but money is the priority here)

04-09-2002, 05:46 PM	#48
daisy diaz Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: virginia beach virginia Posts: 288	Shouldnt someone ask the girls (or the parents where the money was coming from i am sure mcdonalds doesnt paythat much) I lost my virginity at 16...and the folks didnt know . I think there is more at fault here then one person...who really took advantage of the situation...the sick fucks who like "young girls" and funny they are still sittin fat with there wife and kids? just me sticken my neck out again!

04-09-2002, 05:51 PM	#49
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	the site was turned back on today wonder why its back up and running