If it weren't for the Romans, there'd be no toga parties.

Not all the Jews were expelled by the Romans. There were many that remained continuesly. Otherwise, how could the Arabs kill them in the riots of the 1920s? Long before there was a state of Israel... Also throughout the 1800s... Read the books from cover to cover, not just the bits that support your theories.

Anyway, you keep forgeting one thing: before there was an "Israel" - there was no other state there! Read the history of the modern Arab states. They were also founded around the same time Israel was.

"Palestine" never existed as a country or a state. It was part of Jorden, after it was a part of the British mandate, after it was a part of the Turk kingdom etc...

The Jews went to "Palestine" because there was no other state there, because this is where Jews came from historically, because they were murdered and victimized anywhere else, including places where they used to live for hundreds of years, and because there was a UN decision (as voted favorably by most of the countries in the world) to divide historical Israel between Jews and Arabs.

Or maybe I am getting this all wrong and you are right... Maybe the Jews are all satan and the Palestinians are a bunch of saints. You would fit well with the German Government of the late 30's early 40's.

Prior to 9-11, Bush said the Palestinians must stop their new wave of terror against Israel and return to the negotiating table (with then PM Ehud Barak). The Palestinians called this "one sided support of the Israeli view". They also repeated that soon after 9-11... Read all about it:

http://www.nationalpost.com/features...101arafat.html

A little off the topic, but WHY does McDonald's sell breakfast bagels with HAM?

lol, you stupid fukkkers, fuck em all, more air for me!:Graucho

Being the child of euro immigrants I have ancestors who were affected by the holocaust..... I will say perhaps this is not the best place for this "light a candle" post, but all of us AMERICAN's should remember that pretty much NONE of us are native to this country unless you're 100% native american indian. Sure, who gives a fuck about other countries and *their* problems....... but have you gone back a few generations in your family tree lately???

I myself have french, spanish, irish, dutch, italian, and lots more ethnicities in my blood. My grandmother was born in algeria, africa (ha ha I'm african american too), and fled to this country from france in 1959 post war after living in hell for years and witnessing the horrible things the nazi's did such as witnessing them cut open and rip a fetus out of her best friend.

I just think of how lucky I am to be American, and to live in this country. Being American is just that. This is a free country and especially with all the shit you see on the news you should at least have a little respect for other countries and ethnicities, and just be glad your ancestors came to this country otherwise you could be living in the same fucked up shit you see on tv.

PPL
What have you against Israel?
>> ?Israel is an occupier? ? Israel offered a FREE country to the Palestinians. WHATEVER they could want. Seri-Nuseiba said that (Palestinian representative ? one with brains), US-President Bush said so, Frmr-Pres Bill Clinton, Madelyn Albright, Colin Powell, Shimon Peres. Its signed , documented ? EVERYBODY knows (or should now know) it. ALSO - Israel has already withdrawn from all the cities and villages of Palestinians up until 5 months ago. That?s why they call it reoccupation and incursions. Israel has no desire staying there.

>>?Israel is fighting the Palestinians? ? No! Israel is fighting terror. Terror comes from where? Well guess! ? Ye ? yu?r right ? The Palestinian territories. Israel has to defend itself.

>> ?Israel said ?fuck-you? to Pres-Bush!?. No! Israel said ?Well Mr. President. Who is gonna be responsible for 15deads/day in Israel after we withdraw? You don?t really mean us to? right? You don?t wanna encourage terror by giving it what it wants- are you?. But we don?t want to refuse your request so we already withdrawn from 3 cities and will keep doing so from other places right after we finish cleaning the bad-roots there. We will expedite the operation?

>> ?Israel is responsible for the death and destruction of the Palestinians? ? Partially yes and partially no. Israel is responsible for the death of the majority of people ? they are FUCKEN TERRORISTS and should all be put down. They have a leader who should also be put down because HE is the one responsible for his innocent people?s suffer. HE is their leader and HE chose the war for them actively refusing peace and financing and coordinating the terror. Innocent people should not get hurt but they should not allow their leader to lead them to ruins. They should be the ones to kill him. But they are so brainwashed and afraid that they can?t do anything.

>>?Israel has no right fighting the Palestinians? ? Really? Why ? because arab says Israel is the aggressor and it?s the occupier? Fuckem all ? they tried to fight against Israel and lost! Israel wants to give the Palestinian their country. BUT when terror rages in the street, it amazes me that we didn?t see Israel?s real rage yet. I say? if someone wants to hurt you just because of hate ? nail his ass to the ground. And you know what? By your logic US has no right attacking Afghanistan? Bin-Laden attacked the WTC because of US presence on Arab lands. And now? US & EU occupies Afghanistan. Would you be quiet when you get 5000 dead a week (the equivalent in US or EU for what Israel has had for the last few months)? Will you say its no terror? That it?s just uprising of miserable Arabs? If so ? fuck you, I hope you are the next to hit a plane.

>>?Israel has settlements ? they are the source of all evil? ? So you say settlements justify killing innocent civilians? You need to check your own morale then.
You don?t think its terror? Well fuck you. Hope you get nailed next.

>>?Israel is isolating Arafat ? that pure soul? ? Arafat should be put down like the sick dog he is. What do you think US will do to Bin-Laden if/when they catch him? Isolate him? Ye?sure. ?But Arafat is not Bin-Laden ? he is a hummingbird? ? fuck you ? learn the facts. He led a terror organization for so long under EU/UN approval and US/Israel irresponsibility that you are all blinded and think he is OK. He is a terrorist. He ruins everything he touches. He ruined Lebanon when he got there (Lebanon was a once rich place before he came there). And he is responsible for the death of his people.

>>?Israel is attacking a church full of people? ? No! its surrounding it while terrorists from within put bombs in it and fire from within. Amazing ? I don?t understand how can someone be so blind. 120 terrorists has taken hostage the priests and nuns as victims and human shield and you complain about Israel position? God ? you have one hell of commonsense

>>?Israel has stolen Palestine? ? Well ? 1) UN gave Israel to the Jews after the holocaust. 2) I suggest Israel gives back the land and pack their bags right after US will give the land back to the Indians. I don?t really suggest that but? 3) For all three big religions ? Israel was given to Jews by god. Jerusalem is mentioned in the bible 546 times. Not at all in the Korean. For the atheists of us (me included) - Israel is a free country on an occupied land like the entire rest of the world. Fuck whoever dislikes it. The neighbors of Israel are Muslim-radical-militant-nondemocratic stupid countries. I?d choose Israel over them any day.

>>?We don?t like Sharon. He killed people in Sabra&Shatila? ? NO! he didn?t he allegedly let Arab Christians in to kill Arab-Muslims. Bad enough! I don?t like the man either. But Arafat is responsible for bombing American and UN troops in Lebanon and around the world in the airplane abduction era. And the Sabra&Shatila affair? Arabs killing Arabs ? and is that OK? Fuck ? the Arab responsible for that was later on part of Lebanon government who filed the complaint against Sharon. Amazing! When Arabs execute Israelis and drag them behind their cars or kill their own people for so-called ?assisting? Israel with no evidence the world is quiet.

>>?Israel should go back to negotiation table? ? With whom? Arafat? ? ?Ye he is the legitimate leader of the Palestinians ? He was elected? ? Ye? Who was his opponent in the election? Someone knows his name? He is a fucking terrorist. Why didn?t the US government offer to sit over the negotiation table with Bin-Laden to try achieve peace? Because they are all terrorists.

>>?We just don?t like Jews. They are a problem? ? Well ? Go fuck yourself! You should be put down with Arafat.

For all that matters you all should be realizing one thing. No matter how horrible you think Israel ? Terrors is a nono!. And what happens there IS TERROR! Who ever say its not should be the next to die. Arab leaders who say its not are the free world enemies. The fact that they are in the ?coalition? against terror is funny at best. (its actually a strategic choice of US ? and I understand it http://www.debka.com).

Capribex ? well at least someone here has a brain and not all are porn braid-dead merchant ;) That?s what happens when you jerk off too much. Hehe.

People ? you all DO watch too much CNN. By what I saw there ? there are 43% Americans , 32% UN/EU, 21% Palestinians and 1% Israelis. I saw on the CNN that their smart analysis was that Israel acts only made things worse because it didn?t stop the terror ? only made it worse (so called facts). Now after the operation ? no terror in Israel for 8 days. Surprised? Well ? CNN is not ? they forgot they said that. So maybe it does work? Israel is obliged my vote and by morale to protect itself against terror even if the whole world is shouting NO. Fuck the world ? you will say so when it will come to your own backyard too. Think about it. And YES ? the whole world can be wrong. It was wrong in WW2 when they did nothing against the Nazis. Until when? Ye ? until it got to their own back yard ? then it was suddenly ?morale? to react.
So people ? light a candle ? at least to remind the world of its stupidity.

jimmy3way ? These are not facts that you point out. As no one knows details yet on the dead because IDF has closed the areas and no news teams are inside? your number are bogus and is just bullshit. It?s not your numbers ? so no need to be offended. Your antisematic remarks (?Ill light a fuse?) put you in no position to argue in the name of facts and common sense. Jimmy ? your arguments are so valid and detached from reality. Don?t be stupid ? Genocide is the elimination of people - a clear and followed-by plan. Jews will never do that - Never did never will. The fact that you think so suggests something about your views and wisdom. The only 3way you deserve is :321GFY .wake up - get rid of that hate it will consume you :feels-hot .

Nedder ? Ye ? WTC was a disaster not only because people died. It?s also because they died from Terror. What happened there was a waking call for the sleeping world that time to kill the enemy is now!. Some of Europe didn?t wake up yet. The day when they will have their WTC is not far and that?s sad (http://www.debka.com).

Kmanrox ? Israel had light so many candles for the WTC terror victims (including their own people and Jew friends that died there). Nobody in the world knows what it is to face terror like Israelis. WTC was one isolated case. Israel has it on a daily basis.

Wierd1 ? You are right ? Hate is bad. But Israel is surrounded by hate. Hate should be put aside. The arab world needs to reach had back to the offered one of Israel. It was offered once and will be offered again when the operation is over and achieved.

Joe Blow ? Israelis and Jews are IN their country. If you don?t realize Israel is a legitimate country then ? You have the problem. Israel is there to stay. Settlements are bad thing. I agree. They should be evacuated. But it was also offered ? at least in their majority. They should be evacuated ? no need to argue about that. The people over there (like capribex suggested) are strange fanatics and will be evacuated. But that was and will be part of the peace deal. Israel will not take actions because its attacked by Terror ? and I advice your country to act in the same manner once terror reaches you. At all ? you too don?t sound too smart (with the your Roman historic view)

LiveDose ? The candle issue is Jewish (and also world-related)- not Israeli. You probably have Jews in your country ? do you blame them for Israel actions? If so you too :321GFY !

As a final note ? I light two candles for the memory of the 6 million Jews. One for me and one on behalf of the sorry-ass fuckers in this board that don?t agree to do so. If only you will one day understand how sticking your head in the sand will one day kill you too?.

:321GFY XXXManager


lalalalalalala lalalala lalalala

Yes, I too wonder about the Mcdonalds bagel and ham thing... We should start focusing on more important matters.:winkwink:

We build this site to all the deads men in both sides and all over the world.
Anybody welcome to light a candle in memorial of him dear menhttp://www.bambili.com/images_new/sa...nimation17.gif
http://www.bambili.com/right_asp/view_candle-en.asp

Jesus, bambili, that's not a candle!
I think it's really bad taste to post a pic of a funeral pyre.

Brilliant, just fucking BRILLIANT,,,

This is a perfect example of why the world we live in today is so FUCKED UP!

Really? I think you are quite mistaken.

Humor Me... If you can:winkwink:

I think you are missing the point. I am simply detached as the Bhudda preached. I personally don't hurt people, don't kill people, don't try and get revenge for shit your ancestors did to my ancestors. I just try and make the little bits of the world I come into contact with a little happier.

May I ask, How do you do this?

Well...it depends. There are a lot of things I do, but I don't feel the need to brag about my charitable actions. The Talmud tells us that the true charitable man is the one who gives in secret without need for reward or recognition.

Oh fuck that shit,, ok, it is time to put the bong down and move slowly away,, oh and do you paint little daisies on your face and have love ins, and drive a beetle bus with big peace signs on it?
I am hanging up on this crazy thread,,,,shit i can see the herb smoke pillowing out of the windows here.
one last word:
REHAB :thumbsup

Jimmy, I agree with you that if every one of us was just making sure he himself and the people around him are a wee bit happier - the world would have been a happier place by definition.

but what do you do, how do you respond, how do you react, when someone shit all over your face? with kindness is one option. with wroth is another.

all i am saying is, the peace process at large, with moderate and sensible leaders like Anuar Saddat and King Hussein - resulted in a peace treety between the parties, in which land was given back. a peace negotiations just like that started between Arafat and Rabin, and ended due to Palestinian suicide attacks. it was restarted several times thereafter. there was almost an agreement when Ehud Barak was the Israeli PM. it was a strategic decision of the Palestinian LEADER (not the Palestinian PEOPLE) to shy away from the political process and re-engage terror. with hundreds of dead women and children it was the responsibility of the government to react.

look what hapenned when israel left the two west bank cities of Qalkilye and Tul-Karem. less than 24 later and there is another suiciide bomb, and another 8 civilians killed. how would America respond to that? how would the other countries that criticise Israel? one way would be to let the UN security counsil protect Israeli citizens. alas, when Israel left lebanon due to a security counsil resolution, and when the entire world accepted the borders to which it withdrawen to as the legitimate international border lines - now that Hizbullah is firing rockets from south lebanon into the northern cities of Israel - who is coming to help us? who is stopping it? fuck - who even condemn it? not you, not the UN and not anybody.

is the current situation shit? yes! are innocent people being killed daily? yes! is there a solution? yes, but only when the leader of the Palestinian authority take a strategic decision to return to the political negotiating table. it's that easy. for the most part, they could have already have their independance and state back in the Rabin days if it wasn't for the same terror campaign.

Jimmy, maybe if you will lead the Palestinians, and when you will attempt to make people lives better around you, things will take a turn for the better.

whoa I'm loaded right now actually and for a second there I could swear you were describing *my* life...... ::::paranoid:::: hahahahaha but replace the peace signs with pentagrams as I tend to lean towards the dark side.

pot smokers are way cooooool

Fuck UN (and CNN/BBC/FOX/...)
They call in in the news - border of dispute in the north of Israel.
The only dispute I see is between their (UN/CNN/...) and reality. What happens there is an act of war between Lebanon&Syria and Israel.
I am waiting for the condemnation of Israel when it fires back and am predicting a war soon.
Time to unleash the dogs. Israel should wake up.
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Please, no blasphemy here. Don't EVER tell a stoner to do that again!

How about if Powel will bring Sharon-Arafat in their meeting tomorrow some free high quality Pott???

Do you think it will make a difference???

Of course it would man. If we got Arafat and Sharon to have a big bong smoking session we would have a cease fire tomorrow.... and the convenience stores would see an increase in business!

IT'S ALL GOOD! Yeah, man!

So this may be the formula. Give them free Pott and free Porn. That'll do it

That's it, they'll be too busy smoking and wanking to wage war. I know I am.

P.S. Pot only has one 't'

Not if it comes in BIG quantities. :1orglaugh

That's so funny, I don't even smoke weed. But my g/f does drive a GTI...freaky, huh?

jimmy3way


your a real dumb shit dude you think only jewish people were affected in WW2 ? you must be a fuckin retart if you think that.....many people from my country australia died fighting those nazi fucks and on ANZAC day i will be getting up at 4am to drive an hour to once again thank those people for what they did for me.....people like you who say they dont care really fuck me off....how dare you disrepect this people they died for you and me and you dont care.....some fuckin 16year old kid died protecting you...he never had the chance to marry and have a family and why ????? because he was protecting the people then now and for years to come.....


maybe if we have world war 3 and you have to die young for your country you'll fuckin care i'm sure!!!!


fuckin punks nowadays really shit me if it wasnt for people like my grandad risky there ass back then we'd all be speaking german and we'd be a one race world.....sounds like a lot of fuckin fun ay...NOT!


you can light a candle for who every the fuck you want just dont be a complete fuckwit and say you dont care....

Dude you're holding on to way much shit. Let it go, they're dead...besdies I didn't know any of them and if the Nazis had won WW2 I would have gotten a better public school education, and we'd all speak German.

you hit the nail right on the head in proving how dumb you are....

they didnt even know you hell you werent even born yet they still died for you.....when someone does something for me weather there a mate or a complete stranger i thank em its the least i can do.....but sadly many of these people who went to war for us are dead from WW2 or from old age so if the least i can do is goto a parade once a year and say my thanks i am happy to do it


if you had broken down in the middle of no where and someone pulled over and took you to the next gas station or let you use there mobile would you thank em or say hey mate i dont know you so fuck you i dont care to say thanks....????


honestly you sound like a brat and its a free world so you can be as careless and stupid as you want but mate remember you get what you give

p.s. just for a sec imagine i told you you had to die right now so some brat like you 50 years from now can live a good life but didnt give two shits about what you did for him you'd be kinda pissed ay ? so just for a sec think about someone else other then yourself....you might learn something.....i'm sure you wont tho people like you never change

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You people are absurd.