Yes I use icq sometimes. Can never remember my # so best if I give you a beep. Ok?

Have to agree with Broda here i've tried the others and nothing really comes close to gallerysubmitter.com don't knock it till you try it. Trust me after about a year of What The Fucks you'll always come back to gallerysubmitter.com.

i will be waiting!

Well, like i said. I can never change your mind. I could show you 10k a month stats using Chameleon or maybe 20 or 30...it wouldnt matter. You will find someone who does 40k using DS and say its because of DS.

But ok, different approach: Give me a reason why i could never make the same using CS.

Funny, we bumped at exactly the same time.

I'm second. AdvancedSubmitter :)

And as others already mentioned in this thread, the only thing that matters is how good your Databases are and how many Partner Accounts you have (free & bought). So it's a pretty much useless discussion which Submitter is the best, there are a few pretty good ones out there, and they all got already mentioned in this thread.

And if someone is looking for good Databases to start with take a look at http://updates.advancedsubmitter.com, they're not going to make you $10k per month right away, but they are the fastes way to get there within the next 12 months.

And if someone is looking for more free partner accounts take a look at http://www.partnerrequester.com. That's also not gonna make you $10k per month, but it's going to save you a lot of time on your way to get there :)

European-GFY-Vampires unite! :batman

I would be interested in feedback on these services for requesting partner accounts. From a price point of view, partnerrequester.com seems pretty reasonable. Chameleon has one, but that is $299. Question is do any of the TGP owners have a problem with these.. and do they work?
Feedback from those who use them would be appreciated.

I used to submit a lot in 2002-2004. Took the year off in 2005. Now things have changed and it looks like lots or partner accounts are a necessity for decent traffic thanks to the cheaters.

I was going to go through the Chameleon database and manually apply to all the sites requiring partners, but if one of these services will save me a lot of time, it seems well worth it.

kudos to you guys who get 10k a month using a particular submitter. I really do not think generating high $$ is a test for a good submitter. What counts is how stable the cash with the same number of partner accounts. :winkwink:

-rich

:bigears

'zactly! :pimp

Every time that there is a submitter's thread, Chameleon gets most mentions than any other.

not really I think both DS & CS get mentioned alot ;)

I would like to know this as well. What does chameleon do/not do that is hindering me to make more than what I would with DS?

If you want to get the most number of submissions done, with the highest degree of accuracy in the least amount of time, then you'll want to use Dreamsubmitter.

If you don't think efficiency and accuracy are all that important, use whatever you like.

As for spelling out the exact differences, you know what: don't use dreamsubmitter. Submit by hand, or use CS or whatever you like. Less competition for me anyway.

Ignorance is bliss.

if you and i bioth had the same partner accounts and the same sites in our database, i would make more because i can maximize my profits by using console linkcodes for smaller sites (which give higher payouts) and no console link codes for bigger sites that dont allow sponsor consoles. I can also save money on bandwidth by submitting 3 movies to the sites that want 3, 4 to the ones that require 4, and 5 to the sites that require me to half 5 movies, all in a single submission.

So yes, i would make more money and maximize my profits and bandwidth with dreamsubmitter over chameleon. This is true :)

Hey dude, i never said you couldnt do 10k a month with chameleon, i have always said it just would be and is easier to do using dreamsubmitter. Dreamsubmitter just has more functionality period. And i don't think warchild is saying you cant be succesful with chameleon, i think what hes trying to say is you could be MORE succesful with dreamsubmitter.

i beg to differ, its clear that dreamsubmitter is the best submitter out there just checkout this poll:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...9&page=1&pp=50

whats the best submitter for Mac users? it seems Chameleon Submitter works only with windows. anyone?

I stated above just one of the reasons you can make more money with DS... i don't like to create lists of why ds is better than chameleon because in the past when i have done this chameleon and advanced have just gone and copied our ideas and functions.

Dreamsubmitter is built by submitters for submitters, and that alone is why dreamsubmitter will ALWAYS be cutting edge and everyone else will ALWAYS be playing catchup.

If you want the best go with dreamsubmitter and be done with it already.

Pretty lame haha.

I bet half of them didnt even use Chameleon.

Once again i feel bad being negative towards you since you were always really helpful but youre starting to look a bit pathetic man with your yelling and screaming how your software is the best while it simply isnt. It isnt the worst either. Its just a tool to make money and it will be the best if the person using the tool has the best lists and partner accounts. I simply cant understand how you dont understand this. It isnt exactly rocket science. Now pull your head out of your ass and think about it for a minute.

Man, ONE extra partner account at a big site will make up for all the really nice extra tools you have that make a 0.1 difference money wise. Give it up dude.

yelling and screaming? lol actually i replied to you civilly above explaining to you why it would make you more money, and this is the thanks i get? Dude I've been nothing but nice and accomodating towards you, and you have YET to take me up on a 1 on 1 walkthrough of DS, so i am baffled at how you can sit there and condemn me when to be quite honest you haven't even given DS a chance. It seems you are the only one that is CLOSED minded about this whole debate, lets turn the tables shall we? Why do you believe so strongly that chameleon is a better program than DS?

And try to keep the insults out of this, I come here to do business not toss insults back and forth like its highschool. If you want to do that you can bring it up with me in person at the next show.

:2 cents:

so you agree, dreamsubmitter is in your mind 0.1% better than chameleon?

You really dont have a clue what im saying in this thread right?

Better? no More options sure. Utilizing all those options and wasting time and energy to possibly get an extra sale while an extra partner account will get you that extra sale as well that is.

I already picked CS, you may close the thread :)

OH NO, now you will never make as much money as a DS user!

no not really... im not sure what you are argueing as it seems to me you are just disagreeing to be difficult with no basis.

wasting time and energy? you only set customizations up once, then its no more time than doing a regular submit lol

and so basicly now your saying using dreamsubmitter is like using chameleon but having extra partner accounts? :1orglaugh

So by your own logic then, having the one extra partner accounts AND using dream submitter will make you even more.

There's only a finite number of partner accounts available. Optimization and effeciency are king.

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the BEST and really EFFECTIVE is CHAMELEON SUBMITTER - you can try FULL ONE-MONTH VERSION

and you can try chameleon email confirmer and chameleon partner account requester

and here is CHAMELEON TUTORIAL - you can see,
how simple, easy and effective you can submit
your galleries to more than 2 300 TGP/MGP
in a few minutes

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Before you go this route again there is still a question open for you. A very important question since it would solve all the questions in this thread. Please answer it before making more smart ass comments. I wont take you seriously till you do, sorry. The best this and that but without giving a reason is getting real old real fast.

I knew you would ignore it though. No surprise there.

Oh and i know youre gonna keep on going on about that 0.1% i was talking about. Dont get me wrong. Im still saying that 2 times the same list, same partner accounts it is still no difference using DS or CS, each submitter can make more money than the other. DS can have 1000 extra options and i still could make more money using CS. So you can stop talking about that 0.1 now.

I've replied to your email, I've applied for my Partner Accounts pretty much the same way as you did, I've just activated the "OnlyPartner" submission types in my AdvancedSubmitters DBs, and went through the list, took ~2-3 Days for 500 Sites. Then I had the idea for PartnerRequester.com ~6 months ago, which speeds up the entire requesting task a lot, it now only takes ~6 hours for ~1200 TGPs and MGPs.

BTW my Beta testers are almost finished with testing the site, we'd only need to do a few final tests for the Signup Scripts and the Affiliate Area, so it'll be ready within the next few days.

We use and recommend http://www.tgpwizards.com :

It's free for the basic version.

Concentrates on quality TGP's and not quantity in it's database.

Multiple profiles to allow for different niche/genre submissions.

Auto creation but manual handling of partner and high traffic TGP's.

Downloadable desktop submitter for greater control over submissions.

Automatic resubmission and automatic submission limiting to ensure that rules of TGP's are not broken.

Auto-FTP of created pages.

Excellent support.

As free to try can you afford not to check it out?

There is still a question open for you too....

Lets try to get Warchild to answer his question first since its more topic related.

It's been asked and answered over and over as to why Dream Submitter is better. What features it has that are better and why. I'm not going to type another big message to save you the few minutes of reading the existing posts.

I've tried to tell you which tool is best based on 5 years experience as a full time gallery submitter, having used all the tools, and having made well in to a 6 figure income with my refined method of gallery submission for most of my time in the business.

You, on the other hand, with your no years experience, having never made in a month what I make evey month on galleries seem to have a different opinion as to how to do it. That's fine. If you value what you think you know based on what you think you can produce, but are not now and never have, more than actual experience that's your call.

Frankly, given the choice, I'd rather every single one of you fail as a gallery submitter. So by all means, do it your way. I'm not going to try and sell you any submitter, especially since it doesn't make me a dime. Submit by hand, have a monkey do it, knock yourself out.

I've given my opinion and backed it up with my credentials. You keep talking about what you are _going_ to do or _can_ do, but we don't hear much about what you have done. That speaks volumes.

See sig for the best "submitters".

;)

Ok, a simple "no, i cant give you a reason why you cant make as much using Chameleon" wouldve been enough. You just said the same thing just using more words.

I know enough, thanks.

Im checking out the new ds now.

Look, if we were to start both at 8AM in the morning and submit full time, no breaks until 8PM at night, you using CS and me using DS, both with the exact same list of sites to submit to, at the end of the day I'd have submitted more galleries. That's because Dreamsubmitter is more effecient, and has some features you simply can't do in CS. If you can't see a clear advantage in that, I'm sorry, you're just stupid and I can't help.

Just wondering...you submit 6 galleries a day, how long does this take you? Assuming you have the templates ready. So from adding the content/screenshots to confirming the emails.

And also please give me 1 thing that a submit form / mgp needs that CS can't do. Where am i missing out. What am i missing that my gallery won't make it to the mgp's mainpage.

I submit 8 galleries a day and it takes under 4 hours. My submission database is more or less 500 sites.

Ok, our working methods are different i bet so it doesnt really compare but i do 5 galleries a day (at least i try to, i get easily bored) and it takes me max 1.5 hours. I think my list is about as big as yours. Most time goes to uploading all the index pages. 8 galleries would take me 2.5 hours i guess.

Alright i'll give you two things if it will shut you up, finally.

1) At least two large, paid partner accounts that are very profitable, and multiple smaller free partner account sites require now that your reciprical link on your gallery be specific and match the category you are submitting that particular gallery to. Dreamsumitter handles this automatically, and creates the right gallery with the right recip link for that day's specific submission.

If you are not submitting to these partner accounts your are throwing away more than $1000 a month in profit. If you are submitting to them with CS, you are managing these recips by hand each day. That's taking up time and time is money. Either way, you're losing money here.

2) At least one very large very profitable partner account REQUIRES 4 or more movies per gallery. Many if not most of the smaller sites do not. Dreamsubmitter automatically handles using the correct template and number of movies for these large sites. This allows you to submit a smaller number of movies to sites that accept it, and a large number to sites that require it. This saves bandwidth and/or gets you listed.