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Old 01-08-2006, 09:39 PM   #51
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What I can't understand is, how did all these Philipino people all of a sudden learn IT, design, etc in a 3rd world country with no technological advances.
You're more noob than the people you scrutinized and discriminated.
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Old 01-08-2006, 09:39 PM   #52
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Had good experiences and bad with Filipino designers. The current designer we are working with is excellant and creates great galleries we are very happy.

I guess you have also found a good freelancer to work with. It can work well. I'm not the biggest fan of outsource companies the designers you get there just aren't upto a good quality level a lot of the time.
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:33 PM   #53
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I need some good frelance outsource workers. They are really hard to find though. Really hard.
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:52 PM   #54
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Uhhh yeah we're Filipino!

you kidding aren't you?
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:54 PM   #55
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unfounded statement.you should have done your research before posting a reply.

he doesnt know how to spel filipino right. maybe this guy live in a cage. LOL
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:58 PM   #56
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......becuase all the most updated software is sold in the mall for around $1 !



sometimes 2$-5$
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:12 AM   #57
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Some 3rd world countries are actually more advanced than you think. Mobile phone technology in Asia is well beyond America. I've been in shopping malls far nicer than ones in USA.
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:48 AM   #58
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I think creative talent is something individual and has absolutely nothing to do with heritage at all. I guess education would be the only key to bring out this talent. Filipinos are great people and I admire those of them who become good professionals despite the fact that the education there really sucks and is available for the rich and priviledged, only.
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Old 01-09-2006, 01:05 AM   #59
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Every dealing with outsourced employes I had was a bunch of trouble. I have yet to see one designer as skilled as a good american designer
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Old 01-09-2006, 04:50 AM   #60
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theyre not the best in the world, but they provide amazing quality for a great price, for FHG etc its a cool deal
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Old 01-09-2006, 08:43 AM   #62
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Most of the time, Filipinos will give you respect if you're professional and don't fuck around (ie., fire at the earliest sign of bullshit). The ones who stick with you will be priceless.

I suggest you start them off low ($300 is a good place to start then ramp it up) then pay them more as they hit skills/quality milestones
I strongly agree.. It's so nice to hear.. I hope u can influence some of those who do not treat genuine filipino designers same way u do and vise versa.. In freelancing or even in outsourcing companies..

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Old 01-09-2006, 08:54 AM   #63
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What I can't understand is, how did all these Philipino people all of a sudden learn IT, design, etc in a 3rd world country with no technological advances.
techonological advances wise, i dont think so, lots of people here got a PC and a notebook in their house.

and damn, almost every person here got 2 or more mobile phones..

try to go here and see for yourself..

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Old 01-09-2006, 08:57 AM   #64
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......becuase all the most updated software is sold in the mall for around $1 !

ahehehehe.. yeah!
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Old 01-09-2006, 09:45 AM   #65
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to petition him.. is a major headache, you will have to prove to dhs wages are on pare with a american, pay his healthcare, and housing, your better off to pay him well so he will have a standard if living in the pi
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Old 01-09-2006, 09:52 AM   #66
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What I can't understand is, how did all these Philipino people all of a sudden learn IT, design, etc in a 3rd world country with no technological advances.
"Barter exchange" i guess..
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Old 01-09-2006, 09:02 PM   #67
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I think creative talent is something individual and has absolutely nothing to do with heritage at all. I guess education would be the only key to bring out this talent. Filipinos are great people and I admire those of them who become good professionals despite the fact that the education there really sucks and is available for the rich and priviledged, only.
I disagree...I'm poor but I got better education that you can think of...well, I'm filipino and I'm very proud of that!
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Old 01-09-2006, 10:06 PM   #68
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just like everything, your milage will vary greatly.
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Old 01-10-2006, 04:10 AM   #69
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Old 01-10-2006, 09:48 AM   #70
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I allways heard that germans designers and all countries arround (belgium, netherland, etc..) are the best designers.

Btw, to those who think education in all poor countries are shit, they really dont know what the talk. Some poor countries have really good education systems.
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Old 01-10-2006, 10:19 AM   #71
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What I can't understand is, how did all these Philipino people all of a sudden learn IT, design, etc in a 3rd world country with no technological advances.

Dude remember the virus who scare's us all. a virus that can destroy all computer systems.. A FILIPINO who made that virus.. US gov't keep him now.

Filipinos are good workers
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Old 01-11-2006, 01:36 AM   #72
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Filipinos will soon conquer the world.... we're everywhere!
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Old 01-11-2006, 03:04 AM   #73
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I suggest you start them off low ($300 is a good place to start then ramp it up) then pay them more as they hit skills/quality milestones
Useful link, thanks

And for those posting derogatory comment about the "Third World", I suggest you know something about a country before passing judgement on it, otherwise you sound like an IGNORANT ("Third World"? ) IDIOT.
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Old 01-12-2006, 07:18 PM   #74
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Filipinos will soon conquer the world.... we're everywhere!
Hahahahahaha. Pretty constructive. Very, very constructive...
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Old 01-17-2006, 04:25 AM   #76
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Old 01-17-2006, 07:26 AM   #77
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hoy pare filipino ako!

well wel well...wasup porn addicks!! so now u already appreciate filipino artist hah!!....ok brief about filipino designers as well as a worker...filipinos are very creative and competent that's why our country didn't progress..coz ther are lot of wise people there who wants to be on top...so they go abroad and try their luck being on top and be recognize.

but then still when filipinos goes abroad ....they are more cunning just like warriors competing to survive...as for ur info again...spaniards 1st steps in our country and introduce their culture we already adopt ther culture with open arms...but then they suck our natural resources not only spaniards..many nations invaded our country even british,japanese and also US back in the 1900's.

so wat about other nations do they know philippine history?... filipinos does know most of other nations history even american history and cultures, the same as old when columbus discovered the land..

most of u guys see the filipinos are lazy...well...we adopt it from spaniards,americans given us a power of conversations, the europeans given us good artistic sense, japanese made us stronger, but only the filipinos can beat the filipinos..
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Old 01-17-2006, 07:36 AM   #78
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Old 01-17-2006, 07:37 AM   #79
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This shouldn't be your concern. Technology is technology and people who can read english can learn that shit. I don't care whether they are in Timbuktu, ulaan bataar, atanarivo, Manila, panama city, or dhaka. Cheap it labor is everywhere.

What you should be concerned about is when these guys start turning into webmasters (ie., actually competing with you for traffic and conversions). Since I own my own programs (both public and private ones) I have no problems with that. Many of these guys will ultimately wake up and realize that the real big money is not in working for someone else but working for yourself. Of course, its not easy working for yourself (those of you who started with jack shit in your pocket know this) so many will remain employees and make money for others. That's okay with me... I pay well anyway.

The guy I outsource all my design/php/traffic shit to makes over $4K USD a month (not including bonuses). That may be shit wages in the US (Hell, I lived in both SF and Manhattan and 4K won't last long there). I started him at less than 300 bucks a month and he's proven himself many times over.

I do need my worker in the US though because its a bitch communicating over differing time zones
That is not a shit wage i bet you got reps that make less then that.
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