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Buying vs. Leasing a car...
What are the pros and cons?
I mean I can't understand why people wh can afford to buy, lease. I mean even if you can't afford to buy a brand new one, why not buy one that is 2-3 years older? my friend is in the process of leasing a brand new 330CiCm and a X5 4.8Li I mean after 3 years, he has no cars left, and has spent some 70 000$ on the leases. I, on the other hand, bought a 2 year older M3, and in 3 years I still have a car and get get alot of my money back! can someone please explain to me the benefits of leasing a car instead of buying it? thanks! |
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exotic = lease
and with other rides it's just whatever you prefer. i prefer buying everything at once so i know it's my ride and am not one of those wannabee's hehe. |
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and I mean, on a lease, you are on a contract! they have you by the balls, you can't really sell the car at a decent price, once your lease ends they will find anything to make the cars value depreciate, they collect intrest on the payments... I simply don't get it
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You should talk to your accountant and see what he/she says. Leasing is a great option in the right situations.
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for business you can deduct your whole lease payment
if you buy you have to depreciate a percentage each year for a personal vehicle the only advantage to leasing is if you know you are going to get a new one in 2 or 3 years, so then you lease for 2 or 3 years, this way you only commit to pay for the depreciation. So on a new $30K car after 2 years is worth $20K (residual) your committing and paying for 10K over 2 years. so in short it's usually always better to lease if it's for a business or you get a new ride frequently |
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if ur a biz, u should lease. deduct cost and shit
ur accountant can give u some good tips... all the big playa's got the biz plates on their kars
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Leasing is retarded, yes you can deduct the full lease payment but when you buy you OWN THE FUCKING CAR! The only time you want to lease vs buy is when you plan on swapping cars every 3 years for as long as you live.
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It comes down to the same thing.
The cost of a three year lease is usually the difference between the cars original price and its value in three years. EX: CAR A costs $45k to buy brand new. After three years it's value is 20K. So it dropped $15k in three years. That means your lease payment over those three years will add up to $15k ~$416/month. So if you were to lease, you would spend $15k for three years and at the end give it back. The pros are that you only spent $15k on it because you dont ahve to look for a buyer to buy it off you . And during those three years, almost any repairs done are covered by the dealership. If you were to buy. You would spend $45k initially. After three years you have a car only worth $20k, and that is if you can find a buyer. And and repairs done are paid by you.
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What's a lease on a $30k vehicle? Like $300-400 monthly? Ok, that's roughly $10k after 2 years. You buy the $30k vehicle and after 2 years its probably worth anywhere between $18-22k, right? So by both buying and leasing you're paying $5k a year just for "control" of the car. If you're going to want a new car in 2 years anyway, why not lease? Who cares if you actually "own" the car? Will it make you sound cooler to your buddies?
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Oh, and Alex pointed out the other thing I forgot to mention. Who really wants to sit around and sell their car? It costs money to advertise, costs money for any last repairs you may want to do, and it eats up your time. All of that after you already spent the lease amount into the vehicle.
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CON= I paid 11k for mileage
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I now lease a Tahoe for 36 months for one of my businesses. Sticker was $46K, not exactly sure what I paid but the monthly pmt is roughly $740. Had a another lease before that, I turned it in almost 1 year early and they waived the remaining years worth of pmts because when GM needs to move vehicles they come up with special programs like that to do so. Think it was called pay it forward or something. When they offer special deals for leasing they also usually offer specials for buying. Like when I bought my 50th Anniversary ZO6 Vette, 0% interest no money down for 5 years. Can't beat that. That's free money. |
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I've always leased cars. Bought my last 3. One I did OK on because it didn't lose a ton of appreciation. One was totaled after a year and depreciated so much gap insurance had to kick in about $5K. The third one is 3+ years old and has depreciated so much I can't sell it for what I owe on it even though it's a 0% loan.
Leasing has always worked out better for me because I want a new car every 3 years. |
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I think also with a leased car you are more likely to drive it safely because you know you have to return it.
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is it possible to get unlimited mileage with a leased car?
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![]() After 4 years of payments you spent $30k on your $20k ride that's now worth $10k if you're lucky. Very few people pay for the car in full when they drive it off the lot. Probably less than 2%. I worked in car sales during the summer while in collage. In the two years I did this, I didn't deal with a single person who paid in full. |
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Disclaimer: Ask your accountant. If you have a corporation, I'd suggest you LEASE. You only pay for the % of the car you use and you don't get stuck with a depreciating asset. Plus you get to swap out cars every three years.
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![]() ![]() You deserved it. Any mechanic can turn back the milege for a few hundred. Would have saved you 11k.
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Dont try to tell me you wouldnt.
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I wouldn't rack up $11k in overages either. You can buy a new car with $11k. No offense pornguy, but what the fuck were you doing to rack up $11k in overages? That is just plain stupid.
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I understand that there are people like you out there that would cut out my eyes for $.10, but that's not me and I'm not going to worry about it.
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anyone who needs real advice on this hit me up
I spent 10 years running 20 dealerships finance depts...... now i do this shit .......... |
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Fact remains -- you're a cheat that would scam someone by rolling back an odometer, if it meant $10K in your pocket. I'm not. Put that in your pipe and smoke it... SCAMMER.
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Two words....write off
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[QUOTE=Sly $10k is enough money to sell your soul.[/QUOTE]
![]() Rolling back some miles on the odometer. Not killing my dealship owner to avoid the fee.
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Is Alex affiliated with a program in any way???
"No -- we won't scam you while rolling back our odometers." picassocash just got crossed of the list.
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Another advantage re LEASING is you can WRITE OFF the expense on your taxes.
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Here's a little information about Odometer Fraud for any of you interested:
http://www.laag.org/publications/odometerfraud.htm I haven't found the exact punishments yet but it is a felony.
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always lease, trust me .
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40 replies and so far none mentioned why actually leasing is popular in the business field and it's not the tax write off. Let's see lol
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Like I said quote: "For one of my businesses I lease a Tahoe" It's not a website business. ASSume too much and you make an ass out of yourself. As far as you thinking me buying a vette is throwing away money, ask me if I care what the fuck you think. cocksmoker. |
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keep in mind, mileage. You can get hit prety hard when you go to bring the car back.
Example. Friend of mine thought it would be cheaper to lease her civic. big fucking mistake. She's at 130k already and has a half year left on the lease. They willc harge her 12c a kilometer over the 12k per year in the contract. That's $12,000 in excess mileage she has to pay. So she's forced to purchase teh car outright for $10,000. At $320 with tax per month she would have paid $11,520 into it with lease payments then another $10,000 to keep the car. So that's almost 22k for a 16k car that would have only costs her 18k with financing and taxes on the financing. Moral of the story is, if you can keep the mileage within the contract and are using the vehicle for business, sure go ahead and lease. If it's for personal and/or you do a lot of mileage, buy it and save yourself a ton. Justs ll it when you want a new one and walk away less ripped off. |
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If you're a real businessman and not a hobbyist, leasing is the only way to go. So many benefits compared to buying. Not even close.
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I'm waiting for the day bdjuf posts that he bought something without asking GFY's advice. Something major that is and not some homo shoes!
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I got one question.
For example if somebody scratched your car on parking lot and when you return it to the dealership after leasing is done, do you have to pay for the damages? |
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if you idiots think you can turn back mileage on new cars, your lost in space. The PCM's have been recording mileage for years now. Never fly. Shit when I worked at Ford years ago, we always downloaded pcm specs on lease trade-ins.
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