if you have a sig get it in here.
this silly bullshit will go on for days.
you will get mad views, and a few signups too.

nice and simple!


easy to implement too :upsidedow

proof of this is two million marching against the war in london. made no difference.

whining to people doesn't change anything. if you want to change things, get money and power and change things through the system.

people far more powerful than you have it in their interests to keep things as they are.

page = paper

I invented the Federal Reserve.

the first problem u will have with your new system is linking money to paper

What's this I recently heard about them no longer reporting how much money is printed?

I thought money was actually nothing more than paper. But if you want it can also be anything else you want, stick, silver, shell, etc. Just don't use or back it up with gold.

money is an electronic blip on a network, paper just makes it easier for the masses to understand

money has not been backed by gold for quite some time now :thumbsup :2 cents:

50 for the fedsl

Richard M. Nixon took the U.S. off the Gold Standard.

http://www.thecurrencyhouse.com/50.jpg

first conspiracy thread of 2006 :thumbsup

Here's an interesting view on the subject:

I Want The Earth Plus 5%
How The Federal Reserve Board System Works
http://electronicgold.blogspot.com/2...th-plus-5.html

:2 cents:

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CURRCIR/45

EDIT: actually I think this chart is more up to date:
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2...RCIR/342/10yrs

kennedy tried but never got to complete it ... Johnson didn't seem to like the idea and withdrew the bills from circulation

One day there probably be such a form of money, when what the US owes the Federal Reserve become unpayable our government can just outlaw the Fed and the debt is erased... kinda cool if you think about it

Yeah, and say hello to insane taxes on income and everything else. The money the government spends has to come from somewhere.

the govt (treasury department) will then print the bills the govt needs to operate instead of the govt getting bills by printing bonds and selling them to the fed

as long as they dont overdo the printing inflation could be controlled and no need to raise taxes, worked fine in the US for a long time

overdo? So it would be better to have elected politicians who are notorious for overspending to control the money supply?

And you are wrong about it working fine for the US before, look up the Continental Dollar. In six years the bill went to zero value due to over printing. The US is still here, but it was not an easy lesson (and aparently one few learned from.)

-that is true, the best argument for having a central bank is that you have a team of trained economists running the money show rather than politicians

-the continental dollar was a mess, colonial scrip worked much better except it pissed off the bank of england and led to the war

personally I would hope to see economists get together and create a computer algorithm for controlling the money supply and take it totally out of the sphere of political influence

it will always be that way with a fed, they aren't producing anything but are due interest on everything ... increasing prices is how the interest can be paid ... not bad if your income keeps up

I'm not convinced that an algorithm could do an even satisfactory job at something even some of the smartest economists struggle with.

If the bankers can create money from nothing with the fractional system currently in place, why can't the government do likewise or something similar. :1orglaugh