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Theo 01-06-2006 05:47 PM

so,what are the main reasons people didn't attend it this year? I know several people that spent a lot of adv. money on it and they were counting big time.

davidd 01-06-2006 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hue G. Pness
The shows have not been good for a few years. Mostly a bunch of fat drunk slobs stalking the floor for pictures with hired models and begging for free shirts. The show is good outside the show floor though. Smaller parties and invite only events. The show floor itself is just a headache. :2 cents:

No need to slam SleazyDream, that was uncalled for.

RawAlex 01-06-2006 06:03 PM

Well, here goes:

The show ofganizers are always responsible directly or indirectly (depending on circumstance) for the attendance to a show - and specifically attendance on the show floor. Over the years, more and more of the business is done in social settings, bars, private parties, VIP lounges, and what not. They are not done on the show floor because the bigger roller players and company owners go off into the private to do whatever business acts they need to do, and cannot be found. Vegas is big, babeeeeeeee, and it's easy for these guys to go away and never be seen.

Add to the deal that Vegas runs all day all night, party til noon, many many people just never make it to the show floor, just basically doing a 3 or 4 day cycle or party all night, sleep most of the day, and do again.

Miami works because everyone is in one place, and sooner or later, you will see pretty much all of the major players either on the show floor or by the pool or around the hotel.

I think AVN shifted the dates to March because even before the doors opened for this year, they realized and understood that they had made a fairly serious (but unavoidable) error moving the show onto the same dates as the video show. I have attended every IA2000 / Internext show since... hmm... Monte Carlo? Orlando? Anyway... I am not there this year, many of the people I know who attend are not there this year. I could not justify what would have been $4k to come down from Canada stay 5 or 6 days, eat, play, party, and whatnot. I am sure others are int he same boat.

Don't run away from AVN, but vote clearly and loudly with all you got: "this isn't the show we want".

Alex

MichaelP 01-11-2006 09:35 AM

Against all odd, I must say that the show have been good for us finally, I had the chance to meet the ones I wanted to and also I got undivided attention of some big guys for few minutes.

The thing I'm still unsure thought it is about the dates for 2007... Especially at the Bay. I hate this hotel :(

PLUS : Ususally I fly once to Vegas in January and I do 2 events (Intx & Avn). Now I have to choose for wich event I will fly there next year, January for Avn or March for Intx... Tuff choice in my case. Maybe I won't fly at all and some will do the same and will decide to go to Phoenix...

AVN, don't get me wrong I still love you guys, but you should listen better to what webmasters/companies want.... They are your customers after all...

We are also runing a show (smaller of course) QWEBEC Expo, and as we often say to guys who are asking for question or do special recommendation, "This is YOUR show guys! We are just putting the pieces together"....

The best scenario was 3 year ago... 3 days of Intx, then 4 days of Avn, side by side halls with no crossover days... They should have scheduled the Intx show AFTER the AVN this year, so they could have their CES fans at the Avn show and also some Web ppl like me at both Intx and AVN like I do for several years now...

I have the feeling that this year I did 50% of Intx and 50% of Avn


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