You got me there Sleazy, I need a party comprised of other people in the business to make myself feel like a man.

Hell, I outta start the whole elite tgp party idea, I'd REALLY be a man.

damn, i lave you guys alone for 2 hours and there's *still* people jealous of Sleazy? damn, it just doesnt quit...


don't hate tha playa, hate the GAME

I'll go ahead and add, I apologize to those who may have been offended by the "fat fuck" statement towards Sleazy.

And, I'll note, after this post I must admit he is intelligent in some ways, and... I can imagine he's cool at times.

But, he's still a dick towards alot of people, and he needs to let go of his ego, at first it looked like a joke, now I can tell he's serious. =)

Drewkole, give it up. there are many people that totally agree with you about SleazyDream and his arrogance. But your just wasting your time with him and hes wasting his with you....hell I'm wasting mine and everyone reading this thread is wasting their time. You made your point and Sleazy made his, this thread is useless now......we can all go back to working on what it is we all work on.....:winkwink:

I am not offended by anything you have said. I was simply pointing out that you are guilty of what you are bitching about.

Who needs a role model? Fuck that.....Be your own damn man!

For the record... Sleazy and I have not done any business together and I have no reason to suck up to him or anybody else.....I think it is funny as hell that some of you people take him so seriously.....His tactics are pure marketing genius.

The Elite know who they are and for the most part, you will not see them attacking Sleazy about these things. Now those who do not understand...well... they never will.


BP4L

I know yas dun suck up Aaron. =)

I'm a BP4L sukupper 4 life.

This post is addicting.

Maybe me and him should have a deathmatch.

I'm starting to think Drew and Sleazy have a crush on each other.

Maybe it is time to declare:

THREAD CLOSED TO & BY BP4L

Now.... let the non-ELITE continue their crusade alone.

My crush is on you. =)

Nah, this thread will stay open... atleast until the aussie poll goes down. =)

BP4L. =)

Aaron, most of what you say is true, but Bro, please don't say their is some "Elite" people in this biz. Thats pure utter bullshit. There are a zillion different businesses going on in the biz ie. Content providere, (you hehe) Hosting, gallery makers, sponsors, designers, tgp's etc..... all are necessary components to make the Adult Industry a viable working and profitable business. But PLEASE don't say anyone in this biz is "Elite" thats just pure garbage. If you do say their are elitest in this biz then what exactly are your qualifications for being elite?? Is it the amount of traffic you get??..Nope traffic is to easy to get. Is it how many pictures you take daily?? no thats not it, is it the money someones earns??? no can't be, because nobody would ever really show their true earnings to the world?...so just what is it that you think makes someone "Elite"???

SleazyDream, please don't reply with that crap about being made...LOL thats been overused... I'am looking for a REAL answer to the question.

There isn't an elite, its pure and simple.

No matter what, there's always someone bigger and better than you, and theres always someone below you.

Thus, if you say you're elite, you're saying you're the guy on the top rung.

Any of these so-called, "Elite" truthfully think there is noone bigger than them in this business?

Another point, who the fuck would care if you were elite anyways? Doesn't make you a better person, and as soon as you step out your front door, you won't mean jack shit to a stranger on the street.

You two are goofy.

The only thing Elite is is a way to piss everyone off easily and it works 100% of the time.

Sleazy's a lab rat. He presses buttons until he gets what he wants. And everyone who gets pissed at his "elite" talk has a big red button that's just begging to be pushed on a daily basis.

:thumbsup

believe what you will.

because business is business dont matter who the fucker is as long as he does his part..

bunky

I asked a question, I didn't make any statements, so theres nothing to "believe what you will"

I was looking for something with just a tad bit more thought behind it. :winkwink:

ok. here's reality. there is a hierarchy in almost EVERY business in the world. It's based on ability and experience. Just like in kindergarten a grade 9er didn't want want to talk to you about his homework, it happens on the net too. just reality, face it. If you make ANY amount of money on the net you already know that too. I've only made statements about the TGP elite, and there are dozens if not hundreds of other niches out there.

some people attain status within that heierachary faster than others - just as some people do some things faster than others in all walks of life. just how it is.

What pisses me off all the time is that newbies on here often talk like they should INSTANTLY be at an established level that sites that work their ass off for many years have strived to achieve.
I'm accused of kissin ass - well yes, but it's also an admiration of what someone has achieved.

People ICQ me all the time telline me how to run my business. I don't tell you how to run your business? Drewkole for example, has many times told me what I should be doing. I actually LISTEN to him too cause I think that MABYE be might have an idea or two but the Fuckin idiot doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
Yes I talk to newbies, and I've helped a LOT of them, and it disturbs me when all these shitheads on here say I havn't. Thing is, I only help those who I consider worthy. I have little tolerance for stupidity, and maybe that;s just a fault within me cause heavens knows I've done my share of stupid stuff too.

that answer it or did I miss the point entirly?

Just keep telling yourself that Sleazy...

Look at your galleries, look at your site... Like many people have said before, you just think you're elite, because you have traffic.

You promote primarily 1 sponsor, how long have you done that? Your bookmarkers are saturated, your surfers are saturated.

Anyone with your traffic wouldn't need to come on here, making himself out to be elite. The reason you do it, is because you aren't making half the money an intelligent webmaster with the same amount of traffic is, and that makes you upset, so you come here to brag.

People here think they deserve to be considered elite? What exactly do you get for being elite? You have trade partners who enjoy having you as a trade partner, why? Because its the business... If another site comes up with your traffic, and more productivity, you stand a good chance of losing their trade.

Will they think twice about losing your trade if your productivity falls? no. Do you really think that you get listed on a daily basis because your galleries are good? They are shit, they are ugly, the table spacing is off, you make the surfer look on one side, and scroll down 4 pages to see all fo the content, you make the surfer read 20 paragraphs of what you think is good promotional sex talk.

Where are these posts you talk about, the ones that have newbies coming in here expecting to get good trades automatically, and for them to have their galleries listed on top every day? They aren't as frequent as you think they are.

Do I respect TGP owners? Yes, I do... I have a couple small ones, reviewing is a bitch, managing trades is a bitch.

Do I respect TGP submitters? Yes, I do... I submit often, I spend my time buying High Quality content for my galleries, I tone down my advertising, and I obey their rules. I spend 1-2hrs a day submitting content to other people's sites. They appreciate my galleries sometimes, I appreciate their traffic.

The problem with you is, you have the "I don't receive galleries, I list my own, why should I care about other people's galleries?"

You don't respect other TGP submitters, because you have preferential treatement due to your traffic trades. You don't respect other TGP submitters, because you don't have to review for your own site.

Just because someone doesn't have a 400k TGP, doesn't mean that they are worthless, or that they aren't as ELITE as you.

I can think of atleast 3 tgp guys that ONLY submit, that make multiples of what you make.

But then again, you're elite...

And yes, I do respect Sleazy for getting a tgp up to that much traffic, with only his galleries, and manual traffic trades.

Take that for just that though. =)

Like I've said before, this Idiot Drewkole keeps trying to tell me how to run my business and doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

Way to avoid any content in your post.

Sleazy, just face it...

You are not elite, you are not liked, you are a virgin, you need to go in a hole and die.

And unfortunately, noone would miss you.

K, we done here?

Ohhh - I'm sorry. I've never done ANYTIHING even romotly close to right and I should have INSTANTLY terminated EVERYTHING I've been doing to date cause one day you woke up, decided to go into the internet porn business and took one look at my site and knew INSTANTLTY that I was doing EVERYTHING all wrong. Silly me, I should have known a newbie like you knows FAR FAR more than I do about marketing. I feel soooo stupid that I never took any of your INCREDIBLE advise, damn, I'd be making millions every week now if I had done that.

Excellent reply SleazyDream. Finally I got what I consider a decent reply to the "Made" , and "Elite"status. I'am basically in agreeance with you, just you could tone down the disrespect a bit towards some people, but hey we are entitled to have our
own personalities.

Well Sleazy, you finally gave me the answer I was looking for from you since your very first post. Peace is now in the future with us. Nuf said, Be Cool, & Be Sleazy, & Always Have Dreams:winkwink:


Hey you know what, thats not a bad logo bro??? Ill let you have the copyrights to use it if you want, it's my piece offering to you?? :)

"Be Cool, & Be Sleazy, & Always Have Dreams"

Erm, seriously, you are a fucking moron... You don't realize this? Everyone agrees that you are, but you just don't see it? Or are you just too much of a pussy to admit it?

You think you are the shit, that you make so much more than everyone else in the business, you feel you need to brag about renting a boat.

I pointed out major flaws in your business, anyone could do that, even a newbie.

Didn't say you weren't doing ANYTHING right, but you are so far from being the biggest and best thing out there, its not even funny.

So you need to get your head out of your ass. You aren't elite, you aren't even close to being a good advertiser, not saying I am, not saying what I've said would make you one, pointing out flaws.

So stop thinking you are the shit, and noone would have a problem with you...

Step off your redneck fucking podium, and realize that you don't run the TGP game.

You aren't even a factor in this game, no matter how much you think you are.

Not many people can say they are, and I'm for sure even less off a factor than you, and neither of us matter to anyone else's business. A monkey could run Sleazydream, and all of your trade partners could give a flying fuck about it.

Stupid fuck.

I havn't disrespected ANYONE who hasn't made an attack on me on here.

i love it, drew tryin to win a dvd playa.... go away, you suck, and you know it... jealousy is a sin....

now go repent

my point exactly. He doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and he keeps trying to tell me how to run my business.

Blah Blah Blah... Why would anyone be jealous of Sleazy? As for the DVD player, Pipe has me beat already, even if this did get long enough, save it and install it in someone's erasercash car. =P

Do you have a macro for that line or somethin? You've used it about 4 times already this post.

I'm not tellin you how to run jack shit, I gave an opinion, you run it however you want, you'll run yourself into foodstamps soon enough.

My pointing out your flaws goes back to the general point here: You aren't elite, you aren't jack shit in this business, and you're a stupid fuck.

Thus you don't need to keep pretending like you are on this board, because, again... you aren't elite, you aren't jack shit in this business, and you're a stupid fuck.

You are still a fucking newb who lucked out... thats it.

I could care less how much more you make a year, I still won't brag about whatever I make to anyone who doesn't make as much as me.

Since you'll never realize it, keep bragging all you want, have as many tgp parties as ya want, keep living your life alone and cynical.

And be sure to post here before you end up killing yourself out of misery, because any therapist will tell you, bragging and this elitism bullshit is a telltale sign of mental distress and unhappiness.

I'll start the pool here, on how long it'll take ya till ya do.

I bow to the mighty power and superior intellect of drewkole. He's obviously the man who knows everything about everything and I should just shut up and take whatever the 'grand puba' drewkole doles out as my lot in life. Silly me to think I could even hope to challange your vastly superior intelligance. You know all, see all, and are all. I'll bet there isn't even room on your walls for all the honery degrees that ivy league universities have bestowed upon you with all that you know. You must be the leader in the runnings for the award for supperior achievement in the field of excellence.

silly me

'bout time you come to your senses.

And please, please, please! tell me that english is not your native language, if it is... go back to highschool and get your G.E.D. if for not yourself, for the children.

is he going to win a dvd player for this moronic post?

no, but now everyone can see what a schmuck this kid is =-)

Actually it's Grand Pooh-Bah. Didn't you ever read the hats on the Flintsotnes?

It's funny. The more people diss SleazyDream and attack him the more I understand his 'attitude'. Why do people get upset about his VIP stuff? Let the man have some fun. I don't get it. I run a secret society too, why can't you. What's the big deal.
I see a bunch of idiots hanging around GFY...
Not trying to say I'm not one of them but anyways.:thumbsup

Who is this Rich you are fucking??? Something you need to tell us all about???

LOL Kimmykim, good one
:thumbsup

:1orglaugh

you're a real fuckin' brainiac ain't ya Drewbie?