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DeadFidel · 01-01-2006, 09:49 PM

Why do Police have to read it off a card...can't remember it? I have been arrested twice in my life (as a youngster) and they never read that shit to me..and NO way to prove they didn't.

Watching the "COPS" marathon

INFO:

In most cases, before making an arrest a police officer must read this list of rights to the suspect. It is called the Miranda warning because of the 1966 Supreme Court decision, Miranda v. Arizona. When Ernesto Miranda was arrested and questioned by the police, the information he gave them was used against him at his trial. This was a direct violation of the Fifth Amendment of the Bill of Rights. Miranda appealed, claiming that his rights were violated. The Supreme Court agreed; since then, in most cases people are read the Miranda warning upon arrest.

Miranda Warning
You have the right to remain silent and refuse to answer any questions.
Anything you say may be used against you in a court of law.
As we discuss this matter, you have a right to stop answering my questions at any time you desire.
You have a right to a lawyer before speaking to me, to remain silent until you can talk to him or her, and to have your lawyer present when you are being questioned.
If you want a lawyer but cannot afford one, one will be provided to you without cost.
Do you understand each of these rights I have explained to you?
Now that I have advised you of your rights, are you willing to answer my questions without an attorney present?

seeric · 01-01-2006, 09:50 PM

its required by law that they read it from the card.

studiocritic · 01-01-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

its required by law that they read it from the card.

8c

Trixie Racer · 01-01-2006, 09:57 PM

I asked my attorney about this. Law enforcement is not required to read you your Miranda rights. The Miranda rights protect them more than they protect you. If they choose not to inform you of these rights, they are unable to use any confession given in court.

DeadFidel · 01-01-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

its required by law that they read it from the card.

Can't be...sometimes they just say it. There are a few different versions of it, state by state. The police that take the card out and read it...perhaps each state has different rules.

studiocritic · 01-01-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadFidel

Can't be...sometimes they just say it. There are a few different versions of it, state by state. The police that take the card out and read it...perhaps each state has different rules.

each department has different policies.. it'd be a big fuckup to forget to read someone his miranda rights, and then get his confession thrown out in court because you're a screwup of a cop.

so i guess each district's rules vary based on the number of idiots on the force

Promo Chicks · 01-01-2006, 10:03 PM

They read it off the card so in court they can say
"I read it off the card complet and did not leave out any part of it"

pornguy · 01-01-2006, 10:04 PM

Ok. Some of you are close on this, but you have yet to light the cigar.

If you are arrested, and the officer does not question you about the incident, ( For example ) What where you doing with the bag full of of unpaid for clothes? Then he does NOT need to read you the warning. If they are only asking name, date of birth, etc,. then they dont need to read you the rights, because by law, you are required to identify yourself to a lawenforcment officer, when asked.

IF he IS going to ask you specific questions about the incident, the he MUST read them. They are read from the card, because IF they make a mistake, then the case can be lost. They will even testify that they read them per the card issued from X department.

baddog · 01-01-2006, 10:04 PM

THe ONLY time they have to read you your Miranda rights is if they plan on asking you questions and using the answers when they testify against you in court.

Mike Okitch · 01-01-2006, 10:05 PM

Even if you know it off by heart, under a stressful situation, a police officer could just forget one and that's enough to get a case thrown out. It's probably used as a checklist of sorts.

MikeVega · 01-01-2006, 10:05 PM

I believe in NY there supposed to read it off the card ... all the police have the card... if it's not required that they do .. it's encouraged

I'll have to ask Ray .. he was NYPD

Paul Waters · 01-01-2006, 10:15 PM

I thought that the Patriot act and Dictator Bush's war on terror meant that American's had no rights anymore?

studiocritic · 01-01-2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

because by law, you are required to identify yourself to a lawenforcment officer, when asked.

do you have a source to cite for this? pornguy, esq.

$5 submissions · 01-01-2006, 10:21 PM

It's a misconception that they have to read it to you before arrest. You only have to be read your Miranda Rights AFTER they ARREST YOU and BEFORE they interogate you: http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/mirand.../mirandaqa.htm

Redrob · 01-01-2006, 10:39 PM

If the video is on, you get your rights read to you. If the video is off, you might get the shit kick out of you, then read your rights.

DeadFidel · 01-01-2006, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

If the video is on, you get your rights read to you. If the video is off, you might get the shit kick out of you, then read your rights.

Pretty much what I wanted to say.

PS I still Love my homeland USA with all it's faults

ricks · 01-01-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

If they are only asking name, date of birth, etc,. then they dont need to read you the rights, because by law, you are required to identify yourself to a lawenforcment officer, when asked.
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This only applies if you are driving a motor vehicle.

Webby · 01-02-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Waters

I thought that the Patriot act and Dictator Bush's war on terror meant that American's had no rights anymore?

Miranda is that milf with big tits??

I got a friend in a section of US law enforcement - nice lady, but she just screams shit like "hit the fucking dirt!"

Major (Tom) · 01-02-2006, 01:45 AM

would you believe i was arrested once for underange drinking? I am so a hardened criminal. Thats about the extent of what i have done. I am a menace to society!

beware!
Duke

Trixie Racer · 01-02-2006, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

would you believe i was arrested once for underange drinking? I am so a hardened criminal. Thats about the extent of what i have done. I am a menace to society!

beware!
Duke

I can beat that! I've actually been ticketed for JAYWALKING!!

Penthouse Tony · 01-02-2006, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

It's a misconception that they have to read it to you before arrest. You only have to be read your Miranda Rights AFTER they ARREST YOU and BEFORE they interogate you: http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/mirand.../mirandaqa.htm

You can blame Hollywood for that. People on TV get their rights read to them before they get cuffed.

01-01-2006, 09:49 PM	#1
DeadFidel Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: This was my wife circa 2002 Posts: 6,746	Miranda rights...WTF? Why do Police have to read it off a card...can't remember it? I have been arrested twice in my life (as a youngster) and they never read that shit to me..and NO way to prove they didn't. Watching the "COPS" marathon INFO: In most cases, before making an arrest a police officer must read this list of rights to the suspect. It is called the Miranda warning because of the 1966 Supreme Court decision, Miranda v. Arizona. When Ernesto Miranda was arrested and questioned by the police, the information he gave them was used against him at his trial. This was a direct violation of the Fifth Amendment of the Bill of Rights. Miranda appealed, claiming that his rights were violated. The Supreme Court agreed; since then, in most cases people are read the Miranda warning upon arrest. Miranda Warning You have the right to remain silent and refuse to answer any questions. Anything you say may be used against you in a court of law. As we discuss this matter, you have a right to stop answering my questions at any time you desire. You have a right to a lawyer before speaking to me, to remain silent until you can talk to him or her, and to have your lawyer present when you are being questioned. If you want a lawyer but cannot afford one, one will be provided to you without cost. Do you understand each of these rights I have explained to you? Now that I have advised you of your rights, are you willing to answer my questions without an attorney present?

01-01-2006, 09:57 PM	#4
Trixie Racer Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: varies Posts: 2,328	I asked my attorney about this. Law enforcement is not required to read you your Miranda rights. The Miranda rights protect them more than they protect you. If they choose not to inform you of these rights, they are unable to use any confession given in court. __________________ Make a Red Cross Donation!

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pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	Ok. Some of you are close on this, but you have yet to light the cigar. If you are arrested, and the officer does not question you about the incident, ( For example ) What where you doing with the bag full of of unpaid for clothes? Then he does NOT need to read you the warning. If they are only asking name, date of birth, etc,. then they dont need to read you the rights, because by law, you are required to identify yourself to a lawenforcment officer, when asked. IF he IS going to ask you specific questions about the incident, the he MUST read them. They are read from the card, because IF they make a mistake, then the case can be lost. They will even testify that they read them per the card issued from X department. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

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$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	It's a misconception that they have to read it to you before arrest. You only have to be read your Miranda Rights AFTER they ARREST YOU and BEFORE they interogate you: http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/mirand.../mirandaqa.htm __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

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Major (Tom) Anti Communist Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 29,857	would you believe i was arrested once for underange drinking? I am so a hardened criminal. Thats about the extent of what i have done. I am a menace to society! beware! Duke __________________ My mother said, to get things done You'd better not mess with Major Tom