Originally Posted by pimpporn

I would also not reccomend it unless a lesbian orgy beckons you to do it with them.

Originally Posted by A1R3K

weak dumb minds + lots of drugs = problems
strong intelligent minds + recreational drug use = good shit

know the threshold. respect your limits. don't get sucked in.

recreational use of drugs is no match for a strong, intelligent mind. it actually opens that mind and gives the 3rd eye view on the world.

Originally Posted by A1R3K

the main prob with e is there is so much "dirty" e out thee.

uneducated rec users can find the wrong stuff real easy.

beware in 2006 for e

90% of it isn't e

beware.

Originally Posted by dunefield

ummm it's been like that for quite sometime... there's lots of speedbombs and kbased crap out there...

Originally Posted by A1R3K

agreed. 100%.

i make my own shit.

Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

I prefer crack...

Originally Posted by High Quality

X is pretty good. Don't do it more than a few times a year though.

Originally Posted by A1R3K

the main prob with e is there is so much "dirty" e out thee.

uneducated rec users can find the wrong stuff real easy.

beware in 2006 for e

90% of it isn't e

beware.

Originally Posted by uno

Exactly. Most people here are speaking of the negative attributes associated with abuse of the drug. Note use and abuse are two entirely different things.

Originally Posted by Elli

http://www.brown.edu/Student_Service...od_ecstasy.htm

What is Ecstasy?
Ecstasy is the name for MDMA (3-4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine). MDMA (and its close relation MDA) are classified as enactogens, drugs that have stimulant, hallucinogenic and mood-improving qualities. It was originally developed as a diet aid. Before it was made illegal in 1985, it was used experimentally by mental health professionals in controlled settings to help people in couple's counseling. It began to be used illicitly in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Though Ecstasy use remains rare, its use among teenagers almost doubled between 1998 and 2001 and it is the only drug which has shown a marked increase in consumption in the college population with a 69% increase between 1997 and 1999.

Why do people take Ecstasy?
Ecstasy produces a euphoric high that lasts from 3 to 4 hours by generating a rush of serotonin and a smaller amount of dopamine, the brain messenger molecules that help to regulate mood. Serotonin is the brain chemical that many antidepressants regulate. Users describe Ecstasy as making them empathic, producing a temporary state of openness. Depending on its contents, Ecstasy can also cause mild hallucinogenic effects. Users report that the rush of serotonin is pleasurable and produces both an emotionally relaxed and physically exhilarated state. However, this extremely fast deployment of serotonin can deplete normal serotonin levels and produce depression or malaise after the drug wears off.

Are there short-term dangers of taking Ecstasy?
Pills sold as Ecstasy may not be Ecstasy at all. MDMA purchased on the street is frequently laced with other drugs like cocaine, heroine, PCP, or toxic chemicals like PMA and DXM, atropine, and rat poison. In a 1996 study of Ecstasy content, 19 out of 33 pills (58%) were found to contain less than 25% MDMA. Only 5 pills (15%) were more than 75% MDMA.

Are there long-term consequences to taking Ecstasy?
Although further studies are needed, more and more research suggests that Ecstasy causes serotonin levels to drop below normal, which impairs the brain's ability to learn, retain information and regulate mood. It appears that Ecstasy causes serotonin receptors, which allow the serotonin to fire in the brain, to shrink from overuse. Some evidence shows that restoration of serotonin receptors is possible with continued abstinence from the drug, but that people who have never taken Ecstasy have more functioning serotonin receptors than those who have.

Other studies suggest that regular or heavy Ecstasy use has long-term negative effects on memory and brain function which go well beyond the last pill taken (and seem to continue to increase in spite of long-term abstinence from the drug). One study found that women are particularly vulnerable to damage to the serotonin system by MDMA.

Originally Posted by drjones

The part about ex being laced with heroine and rat poison is false. There has never been any evidence and it goes against common sense.. Drug dealers dont put heroine in their pills and then sell that heroin at a loss as extacy.. pure heroine sells well enough on its own.

Anyways alot of misinformation floating around this thread.. go to http://erowid.org for all the information you could ever want about what those things you put into your bodies on the weekend actually do to you..

Originally Posted by dunefield

so what you're saying is...

you have a lab and manufacture your own e's?

Originally Posted by A1R3K

no. i'm fucking around. i'm sure you need quite and elaborate knowledge of chemistry for that. the only thing i know how to mix together is records.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Bluewire Ross

Getting high on Ecstasy can lead you to do things that you normally wouldn?t such as risky unprotected sex or taking other unwise chances.

Originally Posted by wedouglas

jesus christ a lot of your do drugs. what a waste :2 cents:

Originally Posted by JamesK

Are you kidding me? High on X you can't even get a boner :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I like all drugs pretty much...except for meth.

Originally Posted by Bill8

Really? I loved meth. Had to give it up, tho.

It's easy to love it too much.

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And it's true - it's almost impossible to keep a good hard on with a nice dose of X. There are tricks that work, but they are a bit dangerous.

But the nice thing is, on good mdma (X), you don't really care that you can't fuck. Just hanging with the girl is fun enough.

Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

I prefer crack...

Originally Posted by pimpporn

Ever try Cialis on E?

Originally Posted by A1R3K

agreed. 100%.

i make my own shit.

Originally Posted by drjones

The part about ex being laced with heroine and rat poison is false. There has never been any evidence and it goes against common sense.. Drug dealers dont put heroine in their pills and then sell that heroin at a loss as extacy.. pure heroine sells well enough on its own.

Anyways alot of misinformation floating around this thread.. go to http://erowid.org for all the information you could ever want about what those things you put into your bodies on the weekend actually do to you..

Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz

no, often times x or e (whatever the fuck ya wanna call it... its called "rolls" where i am from) is laced with herion... you can often times tell just by looking at the pill itself... a pill with herion in it is referred to as being "smacky" (as in the street name for herion 'smack') and will have an almost unnoticable brown tint to it...

i had a very close female friend who got hooked on rolls... she was a very VERY beautiful gal (less than 10% of the site girls out there would even be in her league), but she got so bad on it, that she would often times take 10 or more rolls a night.... she did 20 one time, and it killed her... but they were able to revive the girl...

even then she didnt learn her lesson... she kept right on going... last i heard, she was living in columbus with some loser who makes his own rolls and meth... she no longer sees her son, and is pretty much worthless and weighs about 80lbs. literally (80lbs. with dcup implants, can ya imagine how sick that must look...).

i come from a very unsheltered world, and have seen lots of bad shit, lost some very good friends, and seen people who have the gift of being able to fill a room with thier presence, turn into the total opposite of what they once were.

i watched her go from being funny, intelligent, quick witted, and generally a great person to hang out with that was always the life of the party, to being a numb minded irresponsible shell of her former self...

for all i know now, the girl might be dead... she probably is.

its still sad to think about.

im in agreement with a1r3k on this one...recreational use is ok (unless its fucking crack or herion, or some shit like that) but fucking be responsible, and dont turn into a statistic.

im not saying dont do drugs... im saying that if ya do KEEP YA HEAD STRAIGHT ABOUT IT.

Originally Posted by dunefield

the term smacky is not because of the heroin... it's because the md puts you on your arse... smacky pills are the best... i'm sorry but looking at pill or judging it by a colour isn't going to tell you what's in it...

also there is no point in lacing a pill with heroin... the cost of heroin alone would make production of pills REALLY HIGH...

also e's aren't physically addictive... learn to have self control...

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Did anyone catch the NBC Dateline report on E? Quite interesting on the effects of it and particularly trying to show that its harmful. Quite a few studies go both ways saying its not harmful and some saying it is. Nevertheless, I'm surprised the DEA has made E a class A drug, it certainly doesn't seem to have the effects like the other class A's.
WG

Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz

the one that puts ya on ya ass has the smack in it, lol.

and yeah, people do put herion in it (im not saying it makes sense, but around here people do do it) dont ask me why... im not into rollin... i did it a few times and stopped.

and yeah herion has a bit of a brown tint to it, so it can and does make it look a different color.

i agree with ya on the whole no physical addictiveness and needing to have self control...

but i been around enough to know what im talking about... maybe they dont put h in it where you come from... but for some reason, they do do it here, and it is common.. why, i have no idea.

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

I did quite a few e's for a couple of years, in the lat 80's early 90's, then moved on to doing coke as I found after a few years of doing e's I was getting paranoid. Both on and off e's. Also towards the end of me doing them, when I took them I would often trip out, just like on acid. Not always a good experiance. So in the end I had to stop taking all hard drugs.

I was quite paranoid for a few years afterwards. But this could just have easily been put down to the amount of pot I smoked. Though I carried on smoking pot for another 10 years. Before giving up a year or so ago. I never had the same paranoya like I did in those e years.

What I will say is I had some of the best times of my life while doing e's certainly the best sex. But I also think, that was due to the times. Late 80's with the whole acid and house club scene in England was amazing. But I would never do one again as long as I live, so draw whatever conclusion you want from that.

Originally Posted by dunefield

the ones that put you on your arse are md... learn the effects of md and you will see that one of the sensations are dropping your arse all horny and loved up... you'd have more of an idea whats in a pill with a simple e tester rather than looking at a colour (it's hardly reliable but better than just looking at it)... just because a pill is off white/beige doesn't mean it's a speedbomb or smacky... they do come in a VARIETY of colours...

and to put a point across regarding the heroin... the cost of a pill in big drug ring lab only costs a few cents to make... wanting to lace heroin with it would be absolutely pointless as you would be putting up that price 100 fold...

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Johnny, I am pretty confused by your post. The only conclusion I can come up with after reading it is that I am sad that I missed the late 80's London club scene. :winkwink: