Sponsors Who Are Stingy About Content - GoFuckYourself.com

Forkbeard · 12-31-2005, 10:33 AM

Grrr, gotta vent.

I've got a sponsor who added a new site a couple of months ago, and made the pictures from 25 hosted galleries available to affiliates for use. I've used the cream of those photos for weekly blog posts, and had very good sales -- thousands of dollars worth. But now, alas, there's nothing fresh to use from that initial slug of content.

The site's updating four times a week, so I wrote to inquire whether I could use content from the member's area. First response: Of course we'll be happy to help you with more content, what do you need?

I thought that was puzzling; I had already explained that I need new content every week or two, and had asked if the member's area was the place to get it. But I wrote back and said that again, emphasizing that I was looking for an ongoing solution, a way to get new content on a regular basis.

Response: we can't let you use pics from the members area, but we'll send you another content pack in a few days, hope that solves your problem.

I really had to grab my own fingers, to keep from responding: "OK, thanks, no worries -- there's plenty of other sponsors to promote when that content pack gets stale."

Sponsors, what's the deal? I understand not wanting to turn all your random never-made-a-sale affiliates loose with fresh member content, but if you had a productive affiliate doing several thousand a month in sales for you, wouldn't you be willing to consider letting him make at least some limited use of your fresh material, to the tune of two or three still pictures every ten days or so?

seeric · 12-31-2005, 10:35 AM

theres a delicate balance between not enough and too much. my affils have plenty, maybe too much. content is expensive. expecially exclusive content.

no one wants all their content slathered all over the internet. giving out jsut the right amount is the trick.

RRRED · 12-31-2005, 10:36 AM

Please add me to your icq... I can recommend a program or two for you that would welcome your joins with open arms and give you all the content you could possibly want from the members area.

Forkbeard · 12-31-2005, 10:43 AM

RRRED, no ICQ here I'm afraid. I'm in some pretty narrow niches anyway, if you've got programs I could promote like this, I'd probably already know about them.

MikeVega · 12-31-2005, 10:53 AM

If your Not pushing mobbucks check us out ... if you need fresh content I'm always willing to give a productive affiliate access to our members area ...

Hit me up if you need anything.

Wizzo · 12-31-2005, 10:53 AM

Should have used MayorsMoney...

Forkbeard · 12-31-2005, 10:58 AM

LOL, save your marketing, guys. In my primary niche there are less than a dozen programs, and I'm promoting them *all* or I have a damned good reason why not.

I'd love to have a big mainstream business, but I'm too damned busy in my niches.

imageman · 12-31-2005, 11:03 AM

What A1R3K said is very true. 10 years ago when i started on the web there was very little free content around but now the internet is flooded. Our program works on an individual affiliates needs, we even shoot content specifically for out top affiliates. Its a different market from the old Busty-Amateur days of 1999.

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

theres a delicate balance between not enough and too much. my affils have plenty, maybe too much. content is expensive. expecially exclusive content.

no one wants all their content slathered all over the internet. giving out jsut the right amount is the trick.

RRRED · 12-31-2005, 11:07 AM

What about cash.com with spanking.com? I'm sure you're already there. Also for bondage sites, have you tried Bill's sites from Pornmegabucks?

fris · 12-31-2005, 11:07 AM

forkbeard is the master

he has awesome traffic, btw gonna send that epass transfer off.

Forkbeard · 12-31-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RRRED

What about cash.com with spanking.com? I'm sure you're already there. Also for bondage sites, have you tried Bill's sites from Pornmegabucks?

Cash.com? That presents as a parked domain full of random non-adult PPC links. Spanking.com presents as a personals site, I've never seen any content with their brand on it. I'd be willing to consider promoting them, but they have no webmaster links visible. Looks like I need to eat my words a little bit if they've got a webmaster program. My email is [email protected]....

Pornmegabucks is another story -- my results with them have been very poor. Very much in the "good reason I don't promote them" category, although I do still have minor links up in a few places.

But of course all this is off topic to the thread, sorry folks!

European Lee · 12-31-2005, 11:30 AM

Lets also not forget that many sites simply dont have the rights to give content in their members area to affiliates to use.

Just because content is exclusive, that doesnt mean that the producer handed FULL rights to the content to the site owner it was shot for

Regards,

Lee

Forkbeard · 12-31-2005, 11:36 AM

Lee, that's the most likely explanation in my case. But I still don't understand the casual attitude about finding a way to get me content on anything but a one-time basis.

seeric · 12-31-2005, 11:39 AM

i do whatever i want with my members area. however, i only allow the affils that i trust into it. my sets are bought outright and shot exclusively for ragecash sites. i own the sets. i'm not bantering for a new affil sign up, i tell it how it is in every thread, with honesty. this is my opinion and contribution to a question posed. simply that. happy new year everyone. 2006 is going to be a great year for all of us.

Forkbeard · 12-31-2005, 11:42 AM

Air, I understand, and appreciate your perspective and input on this thread.

RRRED · 12-31-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Forkbeard

Cash.com? That presents as a parked domain full of random non-adult PPC links. Spanking.com presents as a personals site, I've never seen any content with their brand on it. I'd be willing to consider promoting them, but they have no webmaster links visible. Looks like I need to eat my words a little bit if they've got a webmaster program. My email is [email protected]....

Pornmegabucks is another story -- my results with them have been very poor. Very much in the "good reason I don't promote them" category, although I do still have minor links up in a few places.

But of course all this is off topic to the thread, sorry folks!

I'm going to shoot james and mike an email for you. Spanking.com is the biggest network of spanking freaks out there. It's been up for years. They also own kink.com and thesybian.com which would go good with what you have.

ALSO, they own probably the largest database of domains on the net too. I see some of your spanking domains, etc. and that they are for sale. I think you really should try them. Be warned. If you negotiate with Sandra on the phone, hang on to your chair and take an aspirin first. She's really good!

Anyway I hope some of this was of help. Actually here email mkennedy AT guesswho.com and james AT hotmoves.com and if you want to cc me rrred AT comcast.net I'll help you get acquainted with them.

LittleMack · 12-31-2005, 12:01 PM

Some of the issues with releasing content now are due to 2257 issues and licensing issues.

Forkbeard · 12-31-2005, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RRRED

I'm going to shoot james and mike an email for you. Spanking.com is the biggest network of spanking freaks out there. It's been up for years. They also own kink.com and thesybian.com which would go good with what you have.

I hope they don't hate me for taking their #1 Google result for spanking, LOL -- it's made me a lot of money since. I knew they were big, I just thought they were a typein-monetizing outfit.

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Originally Posted by RRRED

ALSO, they own probably the largest database of domains on the net too.

That part I did know -- they crosslink a lot of their domains and own a lot of interesting one-words.

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Originally Posted by RRRED

I see some of your spanking domains, etc. and that they are for sale. I think you really should try them. Be warned. If you negotiate with Sandra on the phone, hang on to your chair and take an aspirin first. She's really good!

Heh, probably a waste of both our times, then -- I'm not really in a selling mood. I'm not in their league, but what I've got (mostly not on that list these days, I haven't updated in forever) looks to me like stuff that will appreciate, so my negotiating stance tends to be "Stun me with an offer. Nope, sorry, I meant stun me in a *good* way. Have a nice day!"

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Originally Posted by RRRED

Anyway I hope some of this was of help.

It was, thanks -- more contacts are always good.

12-31-2005, 10:35 AM	#2
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	theres a delicate balance between not enough and too much. my affils have plenty, maybe too much. content is expensive. expecially exclusive content. no one wants all their content slathered all over the internet. giving out jsut the right amount is the trick. Last edited by seeric; 12-31-2005 at 10:36 AM..

12-31-2005, 10:43 AM	#4
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	RRRED, no ICQ here I'm afraid. I'm in some pretty narrow niches anyway, if you've got programs I could promote like this, I'd probably already know about them. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

12-31-2005, 10:53 AM	#5
MikeVega Porntrepreneur Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 12,788	If your Not pushing mobbucks check us out ... if you need fresh content I'm always willing to give a productive affiliate access to our members area ... Hit me up if you need anything. __________________ Mike Vega-ICQ:253868499-AIM:mikeydicevega

12-31-2005, 10:53 AM	#6
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	Should have used MayorsMoney... __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

12-31-2005, 10:58 AM	#7
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	LOL, save your marketing, guys. In my primary niche there are less than a dozen programs, and I'm promoting them all or I have a damned good reason why not. I'd love to have a big mainstream business, but I'm too damned busy in my niches. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

12-31-2005, 10:33 AM	#1
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	Sponsors Who Are Stingy About Content Grrr, gotta vent. I've got a sponsor who added a new site a couple of months ago, and made the pictures from 25 hosted galleries available to affiliates for use. I've used the cream of those photos for weekly blog posts, and had very good sales -- thousands of dollars worth. But now, alas, there's nothing fresh to use from that initial slug of content. The site's updating four times a week, so I wrote to inquire whether I could use content from the member's area. First response: Of course we'll be happy to help you with more content, what do you need? I thought that was puzzling; I had already explained that I need new content every week or two, and had asked if the member's area was the place to get it. But I wrote back and said that again, emphasizing that I was looking for an ongoing solution, a way to get new content on a regular basis. Response: we can't let you use pics from the members area, but we'll send you another content pack in a few days, hope that solves your problem. I really had to grab my own fingers, to keep from responding: "OK, thanks, no worries -- there's plenty of other sponsors to promote when that content pack gets stale." Sponsors, what's the deal? I understand not wanting to turn all your random never-made-a-sale affiliates loose with fresh member content, but if you had a productive affiliate doing several thousand a month in sales for you, wouldn't you be willing to consider letting him make at least some limited use of your fresh material, to the tune of two or three still pictures every ten days or so? __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

12-31-2005, 10:36 AM	#3
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	Please add me to your icq... I can recommend a program or two for you that would welcome your joins with open arms and give you all the content you could possibly want from the members area.

12-31-2005, 11:07 AM	#9
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	What about cash.com with spanking.com? I'm sure you're already there. Also for bondage sites, have you tried Bill's sites from Pornmegabucks?

12-31-2005, 11:07 AM	#10
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	forkbeard is the master he has awesome traffic, btw gonna send that epass transfer off. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

12-31-2005, 11:30 AM	#12
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	Lets also not forget that many sites simply dont have the rights to give content in their members area to affiliates to use. Just because content is exclusive, that doesnt mean that the producer handed FULL rights to the content to the site owner it was shot for Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

12-31-2005, 11:36 AM	#13
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	Lee, that's the most likely explanation in my case. But I still don't understand the casual attitude about finding a way to get me content on anything but a one-time basis. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

12-31-2005, 11:39 AM	#14
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	i do whatever i want with my members area. however, i only allow the affils that i trust into it. my sets are bought outright and shot exclusively for ragecash sites. i own the sets. i'm not bantering for a new affil sign up, i tell it how it is in every thread, with honesty. this is my opinion and contribution to a question posed. simply that. happy new year everyone. 2006 is going to be a great year for all of us.

12-31-2005, 11:42 AM	#15
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	Air, I understand, and appreciate your perspective and input on this thread. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

12-31-2005, 12:01 PM	#17
LittleMack www.pornkings.com Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Baby!! Posts: 4,645	Some of the issues with releasing content now are due to 2257 issues and licensing issues. __________________ [email protected]