come on sleazy I understand that. you can still give me an average without involving the name of the programs

I know you have an average between them all?

BTW i was just giving you an example not saying you have shit traffic :winkwink:

I/m just trying to get an average from everyone

won't do it or say it cause my average is nowhere near my median if that gives you an hint.


besides - i'm just a lowly TGP guy. I don't make any money. I just give away porn to try and make people happy!

apparently roger they dont believe in AVERAGES

personally I do, was trying to help you. but everyone here is affiliates and you need to know the average from the program owners side.

is GFY like 70% affiliates and like 30% program owners, or is it like 50/50
hmmmmm

lol lol a lil testy tonight are we? i responded in both your threads you should be happy that i read them. :winkwink:

your question made little sense to me, it totally depends on the sponsor, what niche i am pushing the most at the time etc etc.

i really dont understand how i could have answered this question unless i owned my own program, in which i do not.

giving me an average on what your traffic overall does with sponsors wont give away how much traffic you have or money you make.

my overall sending to all sponsors so far this month is 1/2250 on uniq hits just checked my stats remote actually I expected it to be worse

so over all I would guess it takes

2,250,000 uniq hits a day to do 1000 trial sales without trials I would double it to
5 mil hits a day to do 1000 sales

so my question to you all is how many programs do 5 million hits a day?

:winkwink:

whatever the figure is it's going to be damn hard or impossible for any one person or program to send that much traffic to ONE site, at least with TGP traffic anyhow. Those capable of getting 1k joins per day are more likely to be promoting a large variety of sites.

If it was possible for one person to get that much TGP traffic to one site, issues of saturation would probably alter the ratios so much that it wouldn't scale up the same way that these little guestimates do.

There might be some SEO guys that could generate enough traffic to get those results though.

either way everyone should be able to give me an average

But thanks :thumbsup I was just trying to prove there is no program doing a 1000 sales a day :1orglaugh but everyone is afraid of bursting there bubble and not that many doing 100 either alot less than most people think

but anyway back to would you hit this threads

Sorry i wast just getting fustrated

you dont have to be a sponsor to have an overall average

if you used stats remote it would do it for you on all the traffic and sales you send to all programs its just an average or you could do it on your own but it would take a while since you would have to go into each program to get the average numbers you did with them then calculate it all.

i can guarentee you adult friend finder is doing more than 1000 sales a day

1000 sales a day... that's a shitload of cash :Hollering

:thumbsup

thank you! so your average overall was 1/842 very close to ours :thumbsup
not bad at all I personally think its great and not many do this well


do you have exit traffic? what is the average to all the sponsors you send too?

im starting a board for real math is that against the rules to say that?

im exactly on your thinking, even if some people have these sales questions figured out, i dont know why there can never be threads that try and discover things in the good nature of learning or discourse.

even if people KNEW some of this I don't see whats wrong with going through it. seems like people really wanna keep the threads to interpersonal stuff
or try and hide their trade 'secrets'.

BVCASH nice post hehe. so like 100 joins a day.\ off how many uniques i gotta hit back.

if everyone posted there average with them we would have a good idea :2 cents:

they do have a shit load of traffic but is that new traffic joining daily or people just checking it out and coming back to log in etc.

Personally I think everyone inflates there numbers alot :2 cents:

there are no trade secrets with numbers because we were working on averages.

We don't send our exit traffic to other sponsors as our consoles only have our own sites on them. Our affiliates get full credit for the sales and they can also choose to turn them on or off if they wish.

More like 200+ sales per day.

Very respectable in this day and age, BV!

:thumbsup :thumbsup

I remember the days at CE when we were doing 5,000+ sales EVERY DAY without fail ... DAMN, that was 5 years ago!

:winkwink:

Funny though, I know affiliates networks in mainstream that are doing that NOW!

Times have certainly changed!

:1orglaugh

I bet that helps the conversions as well :thumbsup either way those are great numbers. I send to alot of programs and not many do that well
that is almost exactly our numbers amazing and congrats and here I thought we were the best :winkwink:

SOME THINGS I NEVER POST PUBLICALLY. SORRY

I can understand not singling out one sponsor but and average between all your sponsors is not a big deal

Either your holding out or I call BS :winkwink: what mainstream anything is doing that many sales a day except for amazon or ebay etc. with paper money

UMMM, that would be your opinion. Not mine. sorry.

I AM holding out AND you can call bullshit if you want - the world outside of Adult is a BIG PLACE :winkwink:

There are more than several companies in mainstream that you have never heard of doing 4 - 6000 sales per day AND MORE, brotha!

IMHO, the mainstream affiliate world is where adult was in 1999/2000 but with WAY MORE OPPORTUNITIES!

Today, Adult content may be the most searched for on the web, but has MORE BANDWIDTH SUCKING FREELOADERS than buyers.

Plus, it has more savvy and educated buyers that know the game and just buy trials and cancel and move from site to site. The smart surfer that uses online porn to bust a nut KNOWS that he can take $1 or $2.95 trials CANCEL immediately, rub one out and comeback again a couple times per month going from site to site.

RINSE AND THEN REPEAT!

They know they don't have to get banged for $39.95 or even $24.95 recurring and can spend far less doing the aforementioned :winkwink:

Times have changed there's several hundred million more shoppers online today than were online in 1999/2000 ... and when they are looking for something in the mainstream - they're willing to pull out their credit cards in larger numbers than ever!

You don't have to take my word for it, but it's true!

:2 cents:

Little info on the world outside of adult... http://www.wilsonweb.com/cat/cat.cfm...at=cd_Demograf

There are some highly searched terms on the net that have nothing to do with adult, casino, eBay and Amazon. These terms also have fewer websites even trying to get any part of each $.

Also you were asking why people don?t post there stats (for the most part... I would post stats but really what would they mean to you. I work with some people that convert at less then 1:10 and other that send the wrong traffic to the wrong sites. (gay traffic to MILF site etc...) So you can see how posting the over all General Stats would mean as much as me just pulling a number out of my ass.

Personally I use as a rule 1:500, If something does not convert better then 1:500 then there is a problem... with the (to name just a few) the site, marketing, traffic, link location, targeted traffic, images being used, etc... You also need to keep in mind that tgp, LL, MGP, exits, PPC, SEO, etc.... traffic all have a different rate of conversion. If I was to see 1:800 ration on a 6th page exit I may not change a thing (other then my expectations of getting a better then 1:500 ratio) But if I saw 1:800 off well targeted PPC traffic, I would see this as a big problem.
So as you can see each website has its own traffic, layout, ... And will have to find what works best for them and the traffic they are getting.

"PLEASE NOTE: You must sign up for RevShare, PPS and Cross Sell Separately"

I thought you bought the source code...

WTF...

xoxoxo....

dude........................

:conehead

over 1mil, close to 1.5mil i would say

on the 1000s range

26,000 - 30,000

The net is no different to direct response advertising in print or TV media. Depends if it's a sunny day, what bad news is floating around etc - far to many variables to generalise.

Tho... on the net there is probably more of a "leveling" when ya wind in the "net buying continents" where regional variances may not have a major effect on the overall.

The "average" has gotta be in the range 200:1 thru 2000:1, but with variances either side of that.

Very happy to see 500:1 or less, twitching at 1000:1 and "why are we here?" when conversions are over 1000:1.

This industry hasn?t changed much the recurring has always been about the same and the sales are still very high. The only thing that has changed is the number of programs and sites its all divided by. Yes there are many savvy surfers who know how to get it free and just as many new surfers coming on daily who don?t.

As far as mainstream goes people are allot more comfortable purchasing items online now then they were before.

Money is easy to make in any field if you know what you are doing whether it?s adult, online or a brick and mortar biz there is money everywhere you just need to know how to obtain it.

In about a month or so you will be surprised that?s all I can say right now. So I can?t comment on it yet. :winkwink:

There are many reasons why I haven?t bought it yet. And I still feel it?s a superior product haven?t had any issues with it at all yet. Just haven?t had the times to implement a few things that are not of great importance to our success

thank you!
I asked for two very simple questions how many uniq hits do you think it would takes to do a 1000 sales and whats your average conversion between all your traffic.
there is a madness to my thinking :winkwink:

The sponsor I send the most traffic to takes me 331,000 uniques per thousand sales I make.

Roger does pornopushers do 100 joins a day yet?

1-2 mill hits a day non blind traffic.

yes we do but that because I've been in the biz for a short while :winkwink:

I doubt we would be if I just started new in the biz :2 cents:

that sounds great but you only deal with one sponsor?

Didnt I just make that thread?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=556029