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Antonio 12-23-2005 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basher
who is right with the htaccess

rename your images and put this code in your htaccess

ErrorDocument 400 http://yoursite.com
ErrorDocument 401 http://yoursite.com
ErrorDocument 403 http://yoursite.com
ErrorDocument 404 http://yoursite.com
ErrorDocument 500 http://yoursite.com

the http://yoursite.com can be any url you like even an affiliate code, when
google images cant find the image its a broken link and it will get directed the
the site in the code

have a good christmas

not a very good advice imo because after a while he'll loose all the Google image traffic, and although it's not the best quality traffic I'd rather have than not

Dirty F 12-23-2005 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio
not a very good advice imo because after a while he'll loose all the Google image traffic, and although it's not the best quality traffic I'd rather have than not


Yeah i dont want to lose it.

Wiggles 12-23-2005 11:01 AM

mine converts pretty decent, maybe use fpc cash as an alternative.

2HousePlague 12-23-2005 11:14 AM

You won't have to lose it, but it will have to change, and once you see where the real traffic comes from, you'll foeget about what today you consider your google "image traffic"

i mentioned it in another thread -- not sure if anybody picked up, you know what the guys who are scary good at image shit do with their image serps, they are vanity plates, branding, calling cards, a place to show off some tricks -- that's it.

what i wish i had was better handrwiting, then i could just scan this shit...

http://one.profitlabinc.com/uploads/...d817441eb3.jpg


2hp

Rui 12-23-2005 12:03 PM

this is one wierd thread to say the least...

Babagirls 12-23-2005 12:07 PM

htaccess does wonders ya know ;)

2HousePlague 12-23-2005 12:13 PM

Trust. It's suddenly all about trust -- and amazingly -- the mathematical expression of trust. But since, "trust" is TRUST after all, something we have some sense of, you don't need math to produce "trust effect" only an understanding of the concept.

This is still a little abstract, but TRUST me -- lol-- you will be happy to have had the details grounded in these abstractions.

You recall the episode of STNG when data has the "emotion chip" installed -- he goes haywire in the most exhilirating (for him) way. That's kinda what it was like when Google put the "trust module" (just to call it something) online. Haywire. Red was gray and yellow white as the Moody Blues said. But it soon stabliized and began to evidence behavior Now it reminds me of Starman -- intense intellect, impenetrably deep remote and alien -- but LEARNING aggressively.

More in a moment...







2hp

psili 12-23-2005 12:15 PM

mod_rewrite it to appropriate upsells.

X37375787 12-23-2005 12:18 PM

God, more of 2hp's pathetic brain farts and big words.

psili 12-23-2005 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equinox
God, more of 2hp's pathetic brain farts and big words.

He found "psilocybin"

2HousePlague 12-23-2005 12:38 PM

Well, It's ON, it's learning aggressively, and it's setting down a "basis layer" of crawl information, but it is gettimng more discerning every day. I can't believe how little discussed google blogsearch has been on this board, even as you ALL hop onto the blog bandwagon for google goodness -- i didn't get that, but noticed a handful of you were hip. I have made every effort to enthusiastically salute all whom i find swimming in deep water -- if i have not said hello, it's only because we have not bumped heads in the night -- i am doing things rather visibly, which puts me at a social disadvantage -- :)

I hope it's abundantly clear to those who would worry otherwise that i know there are people here who know all this already -- and they are not the ones contradicting me in my threads -- :1orglaugh

2hp

psili 12-23-2005 12:42 PM

I, personally, can't wait until blogs die and RSS is actually used appropriately.

That's just me though.

The net's been proliferating, un-bounded by natural selection, much like humanity. And it sucks.

2HousePlague 12-23-2005 01:42 PM

As I was explainig to Franck, the dissolution of the unit of content called "page" has left us

with "instantiations of dynamic content via templates and feeds, with design, visual

appearance, and user interface provided remotely through CSS." These pages don't exist. They

are contingent instructions for running scripts There was no way to avoid this happening, and

it's a very good thing -- URI's can be made and changed for large numbers of content items in

a few seconds, and yet it all remains emimently readable and traceable by the spider who

absorbs these changes almost seamlessly. The contribution of the blogform is all this backend

power in an irresitibele user vehicle for individual expression. But gone are the days of the

lonely, pathetic webmaster making lovely things no one will ever see. The blogs also bring a

form of democracy that is by far the most awesome development on the web to date.

Previously I wrote:
Quote:

RSS comes into play as the mechansm through which Syndicators will deliver content to

Afiliates, and through which Affiliates will communicate with each other and Syndicate

Forward.

While it is already commonly understood and expected that sponsor programs will give you tools

and content to help you promote them, the tipping point in that relationship is definitely

shifing in favor of the traffic sender.

Here again, RSS comes into the picture, as Sponsors/Syndicators pump billions into affliate

acquisition marketing. Production costs rise with audience market share. And audiences are

notoriously fickle. This is exactly like broadcast television, during its sponsored hey-day,

with a few very important differences.

1.For Syndicator/Sponsors the top line will no longer be limited because it is a

function of available ad-space or air-time inventory. Once you have spent a million dollars

for 30 seconds on the Super Bowl, where do you go from there?
2. In contrast, revenues from online sales will be comparatively unlimited. Affiliates

will be the ones who open markets for companies, using cultural, language and technological

expertise to monetize "traffic" in all its forms and wherever it exists.
3. The use of the Web for value transfer of unprecedented global scale creates new

billionaires all over the world, in many cases ovenight.
4. Everyone has a net "presence" of some sort, and whether they are recommending a

dentist to a friend or operating a $50,000/day e-commerce site -- we are ALL affiliates.
5. The onus of performance shifts all the way to the Syndicator/Sponsors. Just as it is

today, the programs with the highest payouts and the best tools win -- except in this future

scenario, Affiliate Marketing is the only marketing.

But back to images.., images and a few other "object" file formats are going to take on a more

substantive role in trustrank computations and other "assessments" companies will undergo
becuse they will be the most substantive (changeless) things people link to -- more

importanly, they will play a large role in feeding the next stage of the spider's evolution,

cognitive complexities such as

metaphor. This is where you must

stop thinking that the aim of this is misdirection or deception. You think Google is content

to have only solid/binary values of meaning shape the spider's actions? Course not. They

want it to PERFORM. Before I commence the list of things I would say are "rules", please

remember that a SE that has undertaken the enormous challenge of indexing and providing access to all collected human knowledge has got to learn some things. TEACH IT, INTEREST IT, REVEAL YOUR COMPLEXITY to it, it likes that a lot.


2hp

Dirty F 12-23-2005 02:47 PM

Kaboink.

2HousePlague 12-23-2005 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Kaboink.

put your wings on.



2hp

nico-t 12-23-2005 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
Trust. It's suddenly all about trust -- and amazingly -- the mathematical expression of trust. But since, "trust" is TRUST after all, something we have some sense of, you don't need math to produce "trust effect" only an understanding of the concept.

This is still a little abstract, but TRUST me -- lol-- you will be happy to have had the details grounded in these abstractions.

You recall the episode of STNG when data has the "emotion chip" installed -- he goes haywire in the most exhilirating (for him) way. That's kinda what it was like when Google put the "trust module" (just to call it something) online. Haywire. Red was gray and yellow white as the Moody Blues said. But it soon stabliized and began to evidence behavior Now it reminds me of Starman -- intense intellect, impenetrably deep remote and alien -- but LEARNING aggressively.

More in a moment...


2hp

:uhoh


____________

2HousePlague 12-23-2005 08:29 PM

The framework for specfic dont's and do's is simply the question: "What would a 'trustworthy'

web site do?"

DATA STRUCTURES AND GENERAL SITE ORGANIZATION

1. You would be a source of "original"* content, that INCREASES it's archive size at regular

intervals.

2. The material in archive mode would be distinguished by i. the oldest files very seldom

changing or moving, and ii. the addition of new material follows the organizational principles

in evidence in the earlier archive. In other words, if the archive is arranged alphabetically

then the new stuff should observe that organization, etc.

3. Data structures should show long-term planning when they are set-up.

4. Some organization is better than none. The benefit to being as organized as possible is it

allows the Spider to be more predictive, and therefore more efficient. Sites where the spider

performs well are the same as good sites. It has no judgement, remember.


CONTENT

Avoid having your content resemeble a big fuzzy, undifferentiated morass. The way trust works

for content (both images and pages) is you draw or suggest a line for the spider to assess.

You say "That is porn, and that is images of ripe strawberries." And you see if it believes

you.

In a bit, I'll tell you exactly how to categorize and name your images for maximum indexing

and maxumum trust.


2hp



*(Or an original combination of syndicated content)

Dirty F 12-24-2005 07:34 AM

Continue please.

Rui 12-24-2005 08:02 AM

No offense I like some of the things you are saying but it seems you are writting all that under the influence of mushrooms or something like that...ehh

2HousePlague 12-24-2005 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui
No offense I like some of the things you are saying but it seems you are writting all that under the influence of mushrooms or something like that...ehh

Really? Is it that incomprehensible to you? Your statement means either "I am stupid." or "I hate you, Jack." Which is it? And who are you? And why do you have an opinion? How have I ever offended or hurt you? Merry Christmas.

2hp

2HousePlague 12-24-2005 02:30 PM

Above I alluded that "giving the spider pause" is a good thing, that making it scratch its noggin a bit is a good thing. That much will get you noticed (indexed). But, to really win the spider's love you have to expand its mind.

Metaphor has proven a very exciting area of AI research for me. The metaphorical, for being the opposite of what computers are -- literal --
takes the burgeoning AI of the Google Spider into an uncharted direction heuristically and increases its power to serve our inmformation retrieval needs.

Here's a simple example I just whipped to show you how you can Teach The Google Spider Metaphor.

The basic elements are...

1. An image I've just indexed for bridge and for profitlabinc:

http://profitlabinc.com/PROFITBLOG/G...OFITLABINC.png

2. A high-ranking image for "spectrum"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...r_Spectrum.jpg


3. And this:

A SPECTRUM IS A BRIDGE


Simple as that.


The spider feels pretty confident the above image is a spectrum, and since my decently ranked site has established the above image as a bridge, as related to my company name, and is fairly new in the index, we create for it the opportunity to enlarge its "sense" of what this image could be about. Hereafter, we also establish a connection in the Spider's mind between "bridges" and "spectrums" -- it will probably find others, and each time say "A-ha!"


2hp

Inde 12-24-2005 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
Trust. It's suddenly all about trust -- and amazingly -- the mathematical expression of trust. But since, "trust" is TRUST after all, something we have some sense of, you don't need math to produce "trust effect" only an understanding of the concept.

This is still a little abstract, but TRUST me -- lol-- you will be happy to have had the details grounded in these abstractions.

You recall the episode of STNG when data has the "emotion chip" installed -- he goes haywire in the most exhilirating (for him) way. That's kinda what it was like when Google put the "trust module" (just to call it something) online. Haywire. Red was gray and yellow white as the Moody Blues said. But it soon stabliized and began to evidence behavior Now it reminds me of Starman -- intense intellect, impenetrably deep remote and alien -- but LEARNING aggressively.

More in a moment...







2hp

:1orglaugh put down the pipe please

X37375787 12-24-2005 03:02 PM

what the fuck is wrong with this guy?

2HousePlague 12-24-2005 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equinox
what the fuck is wrong with this guy?

just a little strange.

http://www.substation23.net/images/StrangerNew.jpg


2hp

Mr Pheer 12-24-2005 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
Really? Is it that incomprehensible to you? Your statement means either "I am stupid." or "I hate you, Jack." Which is it? And who are you? And why do you have an opinion? How have I ever offended or hurt you? Merry Christmas.

2hp

Jack

I'm not stupid and have nothing but love for ya man... but sometimes I have a hard time understanding this stuff to :xmas-smil

nico-t 12-24-2005 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
Above I alluded that "giving the spider pause" is a good thing, that making it scratch its noggin a bit is a good thing. That much will get you noticed (indexed). But, to really win the spider's love you have to expand its mind.

Metaphor has proven a very exciting area of AI research for me. The metaphorical, for being the opposite of what computers are -- literal --
takes the burgeoning AI of the Google Spider into an uncharted direction heuristically and increases its power to serve our inmformation retrieval needs.

Here's a simple example I just whipped to show you how you can Teach The Google Spider Metaphor.

The basic elements are...

1. An image I've just indexed for bridge and for profitlabinc:

http://profitlabinc.com/PROFITBLOG/G...OFITLABINC.png

2. A high-ranking image for "spectrum"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...r_Spectrum.jpg


3. And this:

A SPECTRUM IS A BRIDGE


Simple as that.


The spider feels pretty confident the above image is a spectrum, and since my decently ranked site has established the above image as a bridge, as related to my company name, and is fairly new in the index, we create for it the opportunity to enlarge its "sense" of what this image could be about. Hereafter, we also establish a connection in the Spider's mind between "bridges" and "spectrums" -- it will probably find others, and each time say "A-ha!"


2hp

now this was a nice post :thumbsup

Rui 12-24-2005 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
Really? Is it that incomprehensible to you? Your statement means either "I am stupid." or "I hate you, Jack." Which is it? And who are you? And why do you have an opinion? How have I ever offended or hurt you? Merry Christmas.

2hp

chill the fuck out...I think my post was quite clear...

hate you?...

why do I have an opinion?

wtf....

2HousePlague 12-24-2005 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPheer
Jack

I'm not stupid and have nothing but love for ya man... but sometimes I have a hard time understanding this stuff to :xmas-smil

Thanks, Will -- love you, too :)

I'd be happy to try to make the material a little more "digestible".

Was THAT the message, rui ? Did I misunderstand? I'd be happy to do that, if you ask -- :)


2hp

2HousePlague 12-24-2005 06:48 PM

In the spirit of "tying things together"...

What does it cost you to do business only with your friends?

2hp

Rui 12-24-2005 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
Thanks, Will -- love you, too :)

I'd be happy to try to make the material a little more "digestible".

Was THAT the message, rui ? Did I misunderstand? I'd be happy to do that, if you ask -- :)


2hp

not really, that last post was in response for your "going berzerk posture"...a bit uncalled for IMHO, but hey whatever works for you I guess...

2HousePlague 12-24-2005 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui
not really, that last post was in response for your "going berzerk posture"...a bit uncalled for IMHO, but hey whatever works for you I guess...

"berzerk" -- ? -- :1orglaugh

You must be from Scandinavia. Brother, I'm a spic-Jew -- you think that was berzerk -- :1orglaugh


2hp

2HousePlague 06-23-2006 05:34 PM

http://tell.fll.purdue.edu/JapanProj...me/morning.gif



2hp


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