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Clicky_Bucks · 12-22-2005, 06:15 PM

In response to this article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4552214.stm

Basically, in a nutshell, the EU is going to fine Microsoft 2.4 million dollars per day, retroactive to December 15, if they don't provide complete documentation on how core components of Windows networking operates.

They want Microsoft to disclose how netbios works (among other things), so that software companies can develop products that interact with Microsoft products. Which is bullshit. These companies want to directly compete with Microsoft products, using this extorted information.

Their idea is to get the information they need so Samba can fully interact with windows machines, and they can in essence provide an open source directory services mechanism that emulates active directory. Again, using technology Microsoft developed that they will acquire for - free -.

And seriously, as a shareholder, I feel Microsoft should play rough with the EU, and say you know what? FUCK YOU! Stop providing updates, and stop catering to their communist requests. Being forced to abide by a country's laws is one thing. Having laws written that cater to legalized theft of foreign intellectual property is another.

In short, I hope Microsoft does the right thing and stops pandering to the EU, those faggot europa viking motherfuckers.

JamesK2 · 12-22-2005, 06:18 PM

lol no comment

wallst · 12-22-2005, 06:23 PM

microsoft is a top five earner of U.S. gdp - so yeah, im w/ ya - piss on the EU

More Booze · 12-22-2005, 06:25 PM

why are YOU crying?

"so that software companies can develop products that interact with Microsoft products"

thats a good thing for everyone..... except MS.

Clicky_Bucks · 12-22-2005, 06:27 PM

I think they don't want to share netbios because it's a flawed implementation and would expose some vulnerabilities - not to mention, it's probably illegal for them to export the encryption algorithms they use to hash passwords and secure communications between machines (which is likely what the EU faggots want, is the ability to operate their netbios clones in a secure manner)

Besides, 99% of netbios has already been reverse engineered for use in samba, save for the encryption.

Microsoft should get smart about this, and if they are forced to give everything away, make netbios completely obsolete, develop a protocol that's backwards compatible with ONLY Microsoft machines, and then the EU can sue them again, waste everybody's time, and all of the developers that use the "stolen" code/API information will be forced to start over again.

They don't "need" the business of 500 million people if it means giving up intellectual property based on the demands of european government terrorists.

This is how the EU works - they know they can't take down Microsoft - so if they can extort some fines, they get a new office building and do nothing to address the real issues of their people.

I'm pretty sure the shareholders would be more riled up over 72 million dollars in fines per month if it meant Microsoft telling them to fuck off. Precedent must be set, even if it's at the cost of market share.

Bluewire Ross · 12-22-2005, 06:31 PM

It sounds like your loss. The richest man surely would not allow his business jeopardize by the EU.

nico-t · 12-22-2005, 06:55 PM

the EU rocks

RayBonga · 12-22-2005, 07:02 PM

Off course this is not an EU issue alone.

US companies (since netscape) have been fighting MS in court for years for very similar motives.

12-22-2005, 06:15 PM	#1
Clicky_Bucks Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hawaii Posts: 746	The EU can suck my balls. In response to this article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4552214.stm Basically, in a nutshell, the EU is going to fine Microsoft 2.4 million dollars per day, retroactive to December 15, if they don't provide complete documentation on how core components of Windows networking operates. They want Microsoft to disclose how netbios works (among other things), so that software companies can develop products that interact with Microsoft products. Which is bullshit. These companies want to directly compete with Microsoft products, using this extorted information. Their idea is to get the information they need so Samba can fully interact with windows machines, and they can in essence provide an open source directory services mechanism that emulates active directory. Again, using technology Microsoft developed that they will acquire for - free -. And seriously, as a shareholder, I feel Microsoft should play rough with the EU, and say you know what? FUCK YOU! Stop providing updates, and stop catering to their communist requests. Being forced to abide by a country's laws is one thing. Having laws written that cater to legalized theft of foreign intellectual property is another. In short, I hope Microsoft does the right thing and stops pandering to the EU, those faggot europa viking motherfuckers. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

12-22-2005, 06:18 PM	#2
JamesK2 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 6,589	lol no comment __________________

12-22-2005, 06:23 PM	#3
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12-22-2005, 06:27 PM	#5
Clicky_Bucks Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hawaii Posts: 746	I think they don't want to share netbios because it's a flawed implementation and would expose some vulnerabilities - not to mention, it's probably illegal for them to export the encryption algorithms they use to hash passwords and secure communications between machines (which is likely what the EU faggots want, is the ability to operate their netbios clones in a secure manner) Besides, 99% of netbios has already been reverse engineered for use in samba, save for the encryption. Microsoft should get smart about this, and if they are forced to give everything away, make netbios completely obsolete, develop a protocol that's backwards compatible with ONLY Microsoft machines, and then the EU can sue them again, waste everybody's time, and all of the developers that use the "stolen" code/API information will be forced to start over again. They don't "need" the business of 500 million people if it means giving up intellectual property based on the demands of european government terrorists. This is how the EU works - they know they can't take down Microsoft - so if they can extort some fines, they get a new office building and do nothing to address the real issues of their people. I'm pretty sure the shareholders would be more riled up over 72 million dollars in fines per month if it meant Microsoft telling them to fuck off. Precedent must be set, even if it's at the cost of market share. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

12-22-2005, 06:31 PM	#6
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12-22-2005, 06:25 PM	#4
More Booze Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,116	why are YOU crying? "so that software companies can develop products that interact with Microsoft products" thats a good thing for everyone..... except MS.

12-22-2005, 06:55 PM	#7
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	the EU rocks

12-22-2005, 07:02 PM	#8
RayBonga too cool for highschool Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East side, West side, Worldwide! Posts: 12,164	Off course this is not an EU issue alone. US companies (since netscape) have been fighting MS in court for years for very similar motives.