Does anyone own a Kimber .45 pro carry?

[KMR Stitch]

I shot about 2 boxes the other day. Very nice gun it jamed though when you first tried to load a round in the chamber (it was a rental)

[StickyGreen]

you gonna bust a cap in a niggga's ass?

[KMR Stitch]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

you gonna bust a cap in a niggga's ass?

bullets aren't racist they kill everyone just the same

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

bullets aren't racist they kill everyone just the same

i didn't say anything about bullets, i said are YOU gonna bust a cap in a niggga's ass?

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

I shot about 2 boxes the other day. Very nice gun it jamed though when you first tried to load a round in the chamber (it was a rental)

Kimbers are good weapons but if you want a "work of art" go with HK best handguns made on earth hands down... www.hk-usa.com I carry the USP .40 as a primary and I use a springfield XD subcompact for my CCW carry also in a .40 a 45 is a good bullet but sometimes a 45 will not drop like a .40 will.. don;t ask me why... to much to get into... and depends on the ammo you use for drop rate.. I like an ammunition with about a 96% first shot drop rate... 45's are between 86-98% depending on the ammo... but what ever round you choose just make sure you shoot it through an HK... I do also have a kimber 45 1911

[MikeyFingaz]

kimber 45s are among the best made, period. strange that it would jam.... hhk also makes some of the finest guns too, but,

thier is no such thing as accurate first shot stop percentages. it is a mis-nomer.

refer to farnham reports, and others of the like.

[-Turk-]

buy a sig.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

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[smack]

i got to shoot one of those a couple months at the range.

how new was the gun?

apperently the owner was telling me that is quite common for it to jam occasionally for the first 1,000 rounds or so. until it is fully broken it.

i must say i really like how the gun feels and how it shoots.

[Fred Quimby]

I perfer shooting my rifles over my hand gun.

There is nothing like putting a hole in a quarter at 300 yards.

[MikeyFingaz]

Originally Posted by smack

i got to shoot one of those a couple months at the range.

how new was the gun?

apperently the owner was telling me that is quite common for it to jam occasionally for the first 1,000 rounds or so. until it is fully broken it.

i must say i really like how the gun feels and how it shoots.

dont believe this particular owner bro, what makes a gun jam when cycling a new round is poor ramping (the ramp on the inside breech of the barrel) by it not being polished enough...

an extractor malfunction differs from a feeding malfunction. (although i have not ever heard of kimber having poor extractors)

kimbers are known to have excellent polishing of the ramp, which facilitates good feeding into the breech.

a knowledgeable person can make most guns jam by "limp wristing" the gun, meaning that they do not have a positive grip on the weapon, therefore not allowing the gun to cycle under its own pressure.

many noob gun shooters will experience this phenomenon if they dont grip the weapon properly. this could be the case with this particular owner.

kimber has tighter tolerances in thier guns than some other manufactures. the tighter the tolerance, the more accurate the weapon...

however, tighter tolerances will make a gun jam more than if the weapon has loose tolerances (an AK47 has very loose tolerances, which gives the gun tremendous and legendary reliability, but as we all know, the AK is not a very accurate gun)

glocks also have looser tolerances. glock considers reliablity to be more important than pinpoint accuracy... glock is happy with what is known as "tactical accuracy", meaning that the gun will be accurate enough to make good hits on a man sized target at reasonable handgun fighting distances.

kimber understands the problem with tight tolerances, so therefore they perform extensive polishing jobs on the feed ramp to negate the problem of tight tolerances...

kimber is known for thier excellent workmanship, including the polish jobs on the ramn...

in short these malfuntions are more likely due to improper shooting grip, or poor/cheap ammo (more likely the cheap ammo)

never let someone else diictate what you carry and shoot. the best gun in the world will do you no good if it doesnt fit your hand properly... or if it has more recoil than you can handle (follow-up shots are very important), or if you are just plain uncomfortable with the gun...

buy what YOU like, and if you have problems with it, an experienced gunsmith will be able to fix it, and make it function perfectly...

you can make a raven, jennings, or llama (some of the worst guns in the world) reliable if given to a good gunsmith, and allowed to work his craft on said weapon.

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz

dont believe this particular owner bro, what makes a gun jam when cycling a new round is poor ramping (the ramp on the inside breech of the barrel) by it not being polished enough...

an extractor malfunction differs from a feeding malfunction. (although i have not ever heard of kimber having poor extractors)

kimbers are known to have excellent polishing of the ramp, which facilitates good feeding into the breech.

a knowledgeable person can make most guns jam by "limp wristing" the gun, meaning that they do not have a positive grip on the weapon, therefore not allowing the gun to cycle under its own pressure.

many noob gun shooters will experience this phenomenon if they dont grip the weapon properly. this could be the case with this particular owner.

kimber has tighter tolerances in thier guns than some other manufactures. the tighter the tolerance, the more accurate the weapon...

however, tighter tolerances will make a gun jam more than if the weapon has loose tolerances (an AK47 has very loose tolerances, which gives the gun tremendous and legendary reliability, but as we all know, the AK is not a very accurate gun)

glocks also have looser tolerances. glock considers reliablity to be more important than pinpoint accuracy... glock is happy with what is known as "tactical accuracy", meaning that the gun will be accurate enough to make good hits on a man sized target at reasonable handgun fighting distances.

kimber understands the problem with tight tolerances, so therefore they perform extensive polishing jobs on the feed ramp to negate the problem of tight tolerances...

kimber is known for thier excellent workmanship, including the polish jobs on the ramn...

in short these malfuntions are more likely due to improper shooting grip, or poor/cheap ammo (more likely the cheap ammo)

never let someone else diictate what you carry and shoot. the best gun in the world will do you no good if it doesnt fit your hand properly... or if it has more recoil than you can handle (follow-up shots are very important), or if you are just plain uncomfortable with the gun...

buy what YOU like, and if you have problems with it, an experienced gunsmith will be able to fix it, and make it function perfectly...

you can make a raven, jennings, or llama (some of the worst guns in the world) reliable if given to a good gunsmith, and allowed to work his craft on said weapon.

yopu took the words out of my mouth.. I was going to call it "limp wristed" guns will jame when going from breach to L&L if you grip very soft on the grop and they will jam when shooting if you are to limp wristed... good call on that one... I have put about 8k rounds through my HK not one single jam at all... and I doubt there will eever be one... KIMBER if you like th 1911 feel and look and HK for anything else...

[TheWylders]

I had a kimber and it was honestly the best handgun I've ever owned. I never had any problems with jamming or anything, and the fuckin thing shoots dead on right out of the box. For a .45 the kick was unbelievably minimal and man was it a pretty gun.
Sold it 2 years ago to a collector from Texas when I was clearing out some of the arsenal.

[smack]

Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz

many noob gun shooters will experience this phenomenon if they dont grip the weapon properly. this could be the case with this particular owner.

could be very likely. the guy was an ass and wouldn't stfu the entire time i was at the range. didn't shoot to well either.

i saw the gun jam in his hands about 3 or 4 times. but i had no problems.

also you never know how well other people clean their guns. i am very particular about cleaning mine. however, some owners are not as kind to their firearms.

[MikeyFingaz]

Originally Posted by smack

could be very likely. the guy was an ass and wouldn't stfu the entire time i was at the range. didn't shoot to well either.

i saw the gun jam in his hands about 3 or 4 times. but i had no problems.

also you never know how well other people clean their guns. i am very particular about cleaning mine. however, some owners are not as kind to their firearms.

too true...

and if he had a kimber jam 3 or 4 times, then there is something seriously amiss... im tellin ya, kimbers are waaaay better guns than that.

but if you really like the kimber, and you are comfortable with the single action trigger, and dont mind carrying a single action pistol, then get yourself one bro...

the truly are great guns.

[MikeyFingaz]

also note that you do not need to grip a gun so tightly that you get white knuckles and start to shake from holding it so tightly... too tight of a grip will fatigue your hands quickly, and make you shoot poorly...

use just enough to controll the weapon, and keep from limp wristing it...

if you are an old fashioned blue collar type of guy, then you know what a good firm handshake is.

you only need about just a tad bit more gripping power as you would use for a good hand skake...

as jeff cooper (some of you will know who he is... the founder of gunsite academy) said that god never intended a human to hold an explosion in their hands, even a small controlled one. so many people think they have to grip the gun as hard as they can, but a good relatively firm grip is exactly what you are aiming for

[smack]

i need to start looking into another handgun very soon. the kimber is definately on the list.

i have a smith and wesson 910s right now, nice gun, comfortable to shoot, but very large to carry. i am going to have to go out and shoot the hell out of several guns before i make a final decision though.

ideally i would like to try out the sw99, hk usp, kimber (more in depth), springfield armory xd sub compact, sig p series, kahr .40, and para ordinance pxt.

although i am sure i could buy one of each and not be dissapointed in any of them ;)

[smack]

Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz

as jeff cooper (some of you will know who he is... the founder of gunsite academy) said that god never intended a human to hold an explosion in their hands, even a small controlled one. so many people think they have to grip the gun as hard as they can, but a good relatively firm grip is exactly what you are aiming for

that's very true. the first gun i ever shot was my friends smith and wesson .45

i learned very quickly that you need to anticipate the recoil, but not be afraid of it, and just cushion the gun with your elbows and shoulders to let it dissapate smoothly.

[Anthony]

I used to carry a Kimber CDP II when I wanted a small print and alot of punch. Good gun, but the 3 inch that I own, wont' hit anything past 30 feet worth a fuck. I stopped carrying my Ed Brown Kobra Karry, a much better gun than Kimber, and started back with Polymers.

There is no finer Polymer gun than the HK USP .40. It may not be as reliable as the GLOCK, but when am I going to be in a sandstorm anytime soon?

Higher capacity, more controllable round, and most important, LIGHTER gun.

Good luck with that. I have over 16 guns I can choose to carry, the Kimber is nice, but not for Concealed Carry imho.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz

too true...

and if he had a kimber jam 3 or 4 times, then there is something seriously amiss... im tellin ya, kimbers are waaaay better guns than that.

but if you really like the kimber, and you are comfortable with the single action trigger, and dont mind carrying a single action pistol, then get yourself one bro...

the truly are great guns.

He was in all probablity, Limp wristing the gun. Second reason, shitty ass mags.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by MikeyFingaz

dont believe this particular owner bro, what makes a gun jam when cycling a new round is poor ramping (the ramp on the inside breech of the barrel) by it not being polished enough...

an extractor malfunction differs from a feeding malfunction. (although i have not ever heard of kimber having poor extractors)

kimbers are known to have excellent polishing of the ramp, which facilitates good feeding into the breech.

a knowledgeable person can make most guns jam by "limp wristing" the gun, meaning that they do not have a positive grip on the weapon, therefore not allowing the gun to cycle under its own pressure.

many noob gun shooters will experience this phenomenon if they dont grip the weapon properly. this could be the case with this particular owner.

kimber has tighter tolerances in thier guns than some other manufactures. the tighter the tolerance, the more accurate the weapon...

however, tighter tolerances will make a gun jam more than if the weapon has loose tolerances (an AK47 has very loose tolerances, which gives the gun tremendous and legendary reliability, but as we all know, the AK is not a very accurate gun)

glocks also have looser tolerances. glock considers reliablity to be more important than pinpoint accuracy... glock is happy with what is known as "tactical accuracy", meaning that the gun will be accurate enough to make good hits on a man sized target at reasonable handgun fighting distances.

kimber understands the problem with tight tolerances, so therefore they perform extensive polishing jobs on the feed ramp to negate the problem of tight tolerances...

kimber is known for thier excellent workmanship, including the polish jobs on the ramn...

in short these malfuntions are more likely due to improper shooting grip, or poor/cheap ammo (more likely the cheap ammo)

never let someone else diictate what you carry and shoot. the best gun in the world will do you no good if it doesnt fit your hand properly... or if it has more recoil than you can handle (follow-up shots are very important), or if you are just plain uncomfortable with the gun...

buy what YOU like, and if you have problems with it, an experienced gunsmith will be able to fix it, and make it function perfectly...

you can make a raven, jennings, or llama (some of the worst guns in the world) reliable if given to a good gunsmith, and allowed to work his craft on said weapon.

Wish I read down some more, before commenting.

You know your shit when it comes to guns!

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[CE_BigB]

Can you say COLT ACP?

If you hear from your gunsmith that a Colt 45 is inaccurate, then you need a new gunsmith.

Not many realize how important the "Lock up" process is with a semi-automatic weapon. The "Lock up" process is the way the action goes
back into place after inserting the next cartridge into the firing chamber.

With the Colt 45 ACP (model 70 or Goldcup) it is very important to set the "lock up" by altering the "link" betwen the barrel and slide. You can get
links that alter in length from centerhole to centerhole by .001" I forget who makes the kits now, but they have the links seperated by measurements.

Once you get the barrel to "lock up" into the slide... same way each and every time.. when it finds its "home" .. then you can sight in the pistol for accuracy. I like to sight mine in at about 50 yards.. which is about 10x farther than most can hit anything with a .45. For accuracy.. target plinking.. I like to shoot full wads ... 110 grain I think with 5.0 grains of unique powder, but please I'd have to reference the reloading charts before anyone tried that load. It has been years since Ive reloaded .45's. I must still have 20k+ rounds of 45s. Well.. it will be a couple thousand less after New Years Day... My boys and I go shooting every New Years Day...

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