LiveDose

Oh, fine if you're gonna get technical.... One more palestinian bombER defused.... Or neutralized if you like that word better.

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nemesis

Since when killing kids is called CIVILISATION. The only difference between Israelis and the Palestinians is, isreal has technology, their soldiers wear uniforms and advanced guns. So, when you have uniforms and advanced guns, even though you kill innocent people you are not terrorist. But, when a kid throws a rock to an israeli tank, he is a terrorist because he does not have uniform and advanced guns...

Check this video and see how Isreals CIVILISATION ;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/950000...ooting2_vi.ram

DId you see how they killed the guy? happy civilisation to you...

Dracula

Ok, who the fuck destroyed the Twin WTC Towers???

Palestinian supporters? Who?

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nemesis

Did I say palestinians are not supporting terrorism?

All I say is they are both acting the same way. They are both terrorists, some in uniforms and some with rocks... The reason I posted that is because you were saying that isreal is Civilized which is not true...

Warphead

[Labret]

Israel will get what it deserves in due time.

They are few in number and will never be allowed to live in peace.

Let them enjoy their US and UN protection for now.

They will never live in peace. Their citizens will continue to die, hopefully in the near future, at an even more dramatic rate.

For every Israeli that dies, I donate a 1000 USD to help speed up the process.



Just have patience.

B.Diker

i think so

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12clicks

nemesis, pack up your towel and head back home to whatever arab wasteland you come from.

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What's your point?

nemesis

I am not arab faggot. As a matter of fact, i never like arabs, because they are lazy and never been able take care of their own butts. But this time Isreal went too far that there is no difference between a hamas terrorist and isreal's soldier. This is what i was trying to explain...

eroswebmaster

Well you are not doing a very good job.

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onlyreal

Bora i think you must defend israel as a turk

We are with israel go israel go

They deserved all of these esspecially what they did to our soldiers in 1917 with englishs

SleazyDream

see the thing that bugs me is when afferat is asked what will make it right is doesn't mention sharing land or diviningup the country, he wants ALL JEWS GONE, PERIOD. That makes me think the Jews are the ones who are on the right side in the conflict as they are willing to negatiate. Jews ALWAYS are willing to negotiate, hence the term 'jewed" - it's actually a nice way to pay the jewish people a compliment on their negotatioin skills.

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arafat is a terrorist, he needs to be shot and killed.

he is the root of the problem.

you get rid of him, and all the other problems are minor, then you have peace once again.

countries have wanted that old snow arafat gone for years upon years, now its happening, buh bye arafuck

eroswebmaster

Yeah he said the other day he wouldn't be happy until a Palestenian flag flew over Jerusalem.

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Pretty much.

2 years ago Israel offered him almost everything he said he wanted. He walked away and ordered more suicide bombings.

Israel offered peace. The bombings continued. Fuck the animals in Palestine. Let em all die now.

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That will create a power vacuum and even less stability in the region.Besides, he has little control over "his" people.

One of the problems is that there is no one to talk to, no one who is willing to negotiate on the Palestinian side.

As for "the lands belongs to the Palestinians" people, Jews lived in that land since the beginning of recorded history.

eroswebmaster

Exactly...which is why you kill Aarafat and every leader after that until someone with enough brains decides the only thing to do is negotiate ;)

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THESE PICS ARE REAL.
THEY SHOW 2 PALESTINIANS BEING ARRESTED BY THE ISRAELI FORCES.
WHAT HAPPENED IS AS FOLLOW:
2 PALESTINIANS ARRESTED AS THEY LOOKED SUSPICIOUS.
THE 2 PALESTINIANS WERE ON THEY TO COMMIT A SUICIDE ATTACK.
THE PALESTINIANS CARRYING THE EXPLOSIVES, BLEW HIMSELF UP AS HE REALIZED THAT HIS "MISSION" WAS COMPROMISED.
FORTUNATELY ENOUGH THE CHARGE DID NOT ENTIRELY FIRE AND THEREFORE ONLY BLEW UP THE FRONT SIDE OF THE PALESTINIAN.

NOW YOU TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG WITH THESE PICTURES?

THE PALESTINIANS WILL NEVER WIN.
THE NAZI COULD NOT GET RID OF US.
THE ARABS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET RID OF US.
WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF NUKES.
WE WILL ANIHILATE IRAN OR IRAK OR SYRIA IF THEY USE NON CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS AGAINST US.
IN A FEW DAYS OR WEEKS, THE US WILL ATTACK IRAK AS ISRAEL ATTACKS SYRIA.
IN A FEW MONTH THE US WILL ATTACK IRAN.
IN A YEAR, THE WORLD WILL BE RID OF THE ACTUAL GOVERNMENT OF IRAN, IRAK AND SYRIA.

DO NOT KID YOURSELVES, IF NOTHING IS DONE TO TAKE OUT THOSE 3 COUNTRIES, THEN WHAT HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 WILL SEEM AS A JOKE COMPARED TO WHAT MAY HAPPEN.

WE DO NOT HATE THE ARABS.
WE PLAY ARAB MUSIC AT OUR PARTIES, DO THEY PALY JEWISH MUSIC? I DON'T THINK SO.
WE HAVE 1 MILLIONS ARABS WHO HOLD ISRAELI CITIZENSHIP.
HOW MANY JEWS LEDT IN ARAB COUNTRIES?
THEY WANT THE RIGHT OF RETURN FOR THEIR "REFUGEES", WHAT ABOUT THE RIGHT OF RETURN FOR THE 1 MILLION JEWS EXPELLED FROM: MOROCCO, ALGERIA, TUNISIA, EGYPT, YEMEN AND IRAN?

ISRAEL WILL PREVAIL

bhutocracy

just a quick note.. if the post above is at all trying to insinuate the semi naked palestinian on the ground died from trying to blow himself up but the bomb didn't work properly then you are smoking FAR too much crack.. if you meant there were two palestinians and one blew himself up but the one there are photos of was shot then yeah cool.. the one with blood around his head was shot.. any half brained idiot can tell you that.. the blood is in a pattern that indicates he was shot from above while laying face down. The size of the splatter is also indicative of a bullet. as he was naked there could have been no bomb, also only the head area is affected therefore if he managed to pull a turd bomb from his ass with everyone standing over him and while he was HANDCUFFED he would have had to secretly get it near his head and try to headbutt it to ignite it.. and thats just to affect his head.. the blood pattern indicates the exact opposite of letting a bomb explode on your front side while laying down.. (ie forcing blood into the air) which of course is obvious as there is no way he could have had a bomb.

to even suggest the guy in the picture killed himself with a bomb is just absolutely stupid.. and gullible through such an absolute NEED to believe that it renders any opinion invalid.

This shit happens all the time... jews have killed palestinian women and children.. palestinians have killed jewish women and children.. it's an ugly ugly war. step back, and realise both sides are the perpertrators of disgusting acts..

bhutocracy

oh and if IRAQ gets attacked i would HATE to be in israel.. if saddam looks like he might go down - and the US is REALLY pushing for a fight, trying to engineeer a situation where they've got a "reason" to go in and start another war, whether it's arm's inspectors lack of access or whatever - Israel would be on the pointy end of a few biological weapons so fast it will make your head spin.. don't think Iraq doesn't have nukes either.. if saddam is going to die as a martyr i think he'd relish the opportunity to wipe out israel, even if he knew Iraq would get nuked into the water table as a result.

Houdini

This was nothing but a severe migraine headache. Happens all the time. Carry on as you were.

dav555add

FREEDOM TO THE ABHORIGENES OF AUSTRALIA
FREEDOM FOR THE BASQUES
FREEDOM FOR CORSICA
FREEDOM FOR IRELAND

AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT FREEDOM FOR THE PALESTINIAN IN JORDAN

PS: IF WE WERE AS BAD AS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, THERE WOULD BE THOUSANDS OF DEAD EVERY DAY

dewpoint

A picture tells a 1,000 words...NOT! Thinking back to Rodney King..we saw an african american get beaten...what we didn't see was King's extensive arrest record..nor could we see in the future when he would continue to commit crimes. The world was maddened by the King episode, but if we were all police officers and had to deal with that kind of common scum on a daily basis, our sympathys would probably be quite different.

So, for now, who knows what the story behind the Isreal photos is. Only time will tell.

bhutocracy

This is a really good article.. if it's too big, just read the first highlighted bit by a jew, and the second highlighted bit by a palestinian.. heartening to read two individuals who have been caught up in this mess that can empathise with the other side..



Death walks in and camps salute new martyr
April 2 2002

A wounded woman is evacuated from the Haifa restaurant. Photo: AFP

As both sides reeled under the blows of the latest bombing horrors, Paul McGeough travelled to Haifa and Jenin.


Terrorism. It walks in off the street and destroys lunch and lives.

And in its wake, an overpowering sense of helplessness - an awed, angry crowd gathers around the cavern of death that until Sunday was this port city's crowded Matza Restaurant. They tear at their own souls and at the face of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat as they seek understanding, solace and revenge.

This ritual of horror is well practiced now - it emerges that no-one really noticed the bomber slipping into Matza's, because despite an unprecedented wave of bombings there was no security staff. The police wring their hands - Inspector-General Shlomo Aharonishky states the obvious: "We're doing everything we humanly can - but it is impossible to be everywhere".

And as religously-trained volunteers of the Hessed Shel Emet organisation painstakingly gather body parts from what is left of the rafters, floors and walls of the Matzo to ensure burial according to strict Jewish rites, a media battalion lines up its cameras on the apron of an adjacent service station, filing reports, that with another suicide bombing near Jerusalem will book-end the evening's new threats from Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

He told Israelis in a televised address: "We must fight this terrorism, in an uncompromising war to uproot these savages, to dismantle their infrastructure because there is no compromise with terrorists."


Fifteen people are dead. They include an entire family - father, mother, and son, who had been having a quiet lunch. They include Carlos Wegman, a 50-year-old engineer who came to Israel from Argentina almost 30 years ago and who was planning his second marriage in the coming summer.

Forty-six were wounded - scattered to three local hospitals by a fleet of ambulances. Half of the wounded have serious injuries, and yet, all this does not reveal the full horror of the attack on the Matza.

Seventeen-year-old Yuhuda Aigzer does: "I was just about to go into the Matza when I was thrown to the ground by a massive boom. Everything was on fire. I saw one man with his hair on fire. A young boy with his face covered in blood. There was blood and glass everywhere."

Another bystander, Shimon Sabag, said: "Watching people on fire is just horrible. I heard an explosion, I went into the gas station and I started to deal with the injured people. I couldn't deal with the critical injuries so I turned to the moderate. I tried to put out the fire, even the moderately injured were on fire."

In a country where there is so little trust and so little goodwill between Jews and Palestinians, Haifa is renowned for the harmony that exists among its people, evidence of which could be found in the Maztza restaurant and service station complex in Haifa's Neve Sha'anan district - it is owned by a Jew, but managed by a Palestinian family from Galilee - at least one member of which died in the inferno.

And in the midst of all the hard talk as darkness embraced the Matza, a lonely voice in the confusion that is life, war and politics in Israel, struggled to be heard from her bed at Haifa's Ramban Hospital.

Twenty-seven-year old Sinjana Wakid who was being treated for minor injuries suffered in the restaurant blast, said, "I came to the country seven years ago and I am Christian, Jewish and Muslim.

"My grandmother on my father's side was Jewish, and her husband was a Muslim and my mother was Christian. The person who blew himself up was not crazy. They say the Arabs are crazy but it's not true. It's someone who saw the same pain that I saw today and did it out of what he saw. They also feel pain. Those who blow themselves up are not terrorists, they are soldiers.

"They come to take revenge. I don't justify them. They make a lot of mistakes. I have all three religions in me and I don't want to stay here. Sharon's old and doesn't care that young people are killed, and Arafat is the same - he doesn't care if the young people commit suicide.

"It's well-known that what's done to Muslims, like in Chechnya, brings revenge. And a Jewish boy, who cries on his father's grave, will grow up with hatred and seek revenge."

The Matza bombing was the fifth in five days and as Israelis brace themselves for more such attacks, the blame game is easy because various militant Palestinian groups claim responsibility for the suicide-bombings.

Yesterday, the three groups usually involved, all issued statement - Hamas and Islamic Jihad claimed the Haifa bombing - the Hamas claim was the more credible; and the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed a second bombing which killed one and injured three at a Jewish settlement near Jerusalem.

Some Israeli authorities accept Palestinian claims that Yasser Arafat does not have control over the bombing activities of Hamas or Islamic Jihad. But despite claims by the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades that they plan and execute their activities in isolation, their membership is drawn from Mr Arafat's own Fatah faction of the PLO.

Mr Sharon now holds Mr Arafat entirely responsible for all the bombing, denouncing him at every turn as a terrorist. He, and US president George W. Bush, have demanded that Mr Arafat go on the Arab TV networks again and call for a halt to the bombings in Arabic.

He did that in December - to no great effect. But the Israelis also are demanding that the now crippled security forces of the Palestinian Authority arrest those behind the bombings and keep them in jail, instead of occassionally rounding them up and later releasing them.

Hamas official Abdel Aziz Rantisi told Abu Dhabi television yesterday that the suicide-bomb attackas would continue until Israel ended the siege of Mr Arafat in the West Bank city of Ramallah. He said: "We will continue the martyrdom attacks on Israel until the full withdrawal from Palestinian territory."

Late yesterday, as the emergency crews were clearing the Matza rubble, calls of celebration went out from the mosque loudspeakers in the refugee camps at Jenin, on the West Bank and about 50km from Haifa, to announce that the perpetrator had been 18-year-old Shadi Tubasi, a resident of the camps, who had acquired an Israeli identity card by marrying an Israeli Arab.

It was tense in the refugee camp on the outskirts of Jenin, in the north of the West Bank, when hundreds of locals crowded into the local youth centre to pay condolences to the family of Shadi Tubasi and to celebrate his martyrdom.


This was a ritual too - driving to the youth centre meant avoiding mounds of earth on the road, which the Herald was informed had been mined in advance of an expected Israeli incursion, and overnight new grafitti had been drawn and special postcards printed to honour "the one who did the heroic Haifa explosion."

But 52-year-old Zakaria Tubasi, the father of the bomber, was feeling anything but heroic. He said: "I thank God that my son is a martyr, but I'm not happy that he is dead.

"No one thought he would do such a thing. I don't know if he left a message, but he was not politically active and I did not see anything in his behaviour to tell me he might do this.

"His life was difficult because of the way we live - he had no job and he was depressed."

And the dead in Haifa? He shrugged in resignation: "They are the same as us - they too are human beings." His son had been dead for less than 24 hours and the nearest Mr Tubasi came to making a political statement was this: "If there is peace, everything is possible".

In the cyclical action and reaction of this crisis, the Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, last week started giving an extra $US15,000 to the families of suicide bombers as an encouragement, according to those who distributed the cheques on his behalf, to young people to volunteer for the suicide bombing missions.

Last night the Israeli Cabinet came up with a bid to counter that - it called for a report on the effectiveness of deporting the families of all suicide-bombers.

dada

Just in case I wasn't clear in my early posts about this matter I will repeat my self agian!

STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT ISRAEL< you stupid fucks >

PALESTIANS ARE A MURDEROUS SICK FUCKS,
THEY ARE WORSE THEN CHARLES MANSON AND HITLER...

BIN LADEN IS A GOOD SUPPOERTERS OF PALELESTIANS,
SO IS SADAM HUSEIN! THEY ARE ALL ISLAM TERROR,
AGIANTS WESTERN CULTURE AND FREE WORLD!

THE ISRAELI ARE PEACEFUL PEOPLE!
THEY ARE FIGHTIG FOR THEIR LIVES ARE THEIR KIDS AND MOTHERS, PALESTINAIS FIGHT FOR REVENGE!

90% OF PALESTINIANS SUPPORT SUICIDE BOMBERS,
THOSE KILLERS OF INOCENT BECOMES HOLY PEOPLE,
AND THEIR FAMILY GET RESPECT AND MONEY SUPPORTS
THEREFORE THIS SICK FUCKED SOCIETY, IS NO LOGER A PART OF CIVILIZATION, AND HAVE LOST ALL RIGHT FOR INDIPENDANCE
I ONLY HOPE ISRAEL IS SAMER ENOUGH TO KILL AND ARREST ALL TERRORISTS BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

FUCK THE PALESTIANS!

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Corona

I seem to have missed the day in history class when they taught us about how Ghandi took a bunch of uneducated brainwashed fucks and tied bombs to their bodies.

"Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man."

Mohandas K. Gandhi

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12clicks

I never called you an arab faggot, just an arab.
But hey, if you like boys, run with it.

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bhutocracy

as i can't edit my last post - have to make a correction, the first highlighted quote isn't from a jew, she is of mixed religion..

12clicks

you don't think the rest of the world cares about your bullshit do you?

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The monkey sat on a pile of stones
And he stared at the broken bone in his hand
And the strains Viennese quartet
Rang out across the land
The monkey looked up at the stars
And he thought to himself
Memory is a stranger
History is for fools
And he cleaned his hands
In a pool of holy writing
Turned his back on the garden
And set out for the nearest town
Hold on hold on soldier
When you add it all up
The tears and marrowbone
There's an ounce of gold
And an ounce of pride in each ledger
And the GERMANS killed the JEWS
And the JEWS killed the ARABS
And ARABS killed the hostages
And that is the news
And is it any wonder
That the monkey's confused

HE SAID MAMA MAMA
THE PRESIDENT'S A FOOL

Why do I have to keep reading...

dewpoint

12 clicks....do you EVER add anything useful to a thread? There has been a tremendous variety of opposing & intelligent views on this issue. And then you burb up some sort of useless and racist tripe. (As per usual)


You really are quite annoying.

12clicks

dude, while you're working the fry-O-lator at your day job, I'm sitting here thinking up witty racist shit. do you have any idea how hard it is to come up with new material?

you can't waltz in here after work, lose the paper hat, and pretend you're part of the group. You're not and no one gives a fuck about your half a step up from a surfer opinion.

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LoveAsianChicks

There are faults on both sides.

What is the difference in this scenario:
Palestine man runs into a building and detonates a bomb and kills 12.
An Israeli tank fires at a building and kills 12.

So a bomb killing someone is BAD
but a shell from a tank is OK?

I don't support anyone, but I think Israel is not 100% innocent like many claim.

As for that photo - it is impossible to really tell what happened.

Imagine this: Maybe the Israel guys holding him down, were distracted because something happen off to the side that the picture didn't show. In that split second the man on the ground gets up to run away and someone shot him.
Who knows.

Corona

The difference is that the Palistinian in INTENTIONALLY trying to kill as many non-combatants as possible.

The Israeli tank is probably firing a round a known terrorist or armed enemy soldiers. Some or all of the 12 dead may have been innocent bystanders.

But the difference is intent.

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dewpoint

12 clicks...I don't think that any of the affiliate programs I deal with would consider me as one step up from a surfer. Hum, unless part time webmasters now have the influence to work special high volume deals.

So, you common racist scum, lets see how much of a man you really are. If you stand behind your racist comments so strongly, what is the cheating dialer exit program that you run. I for one would like to make sure that I never deal with you in any way, And perhaps others will find the desire to stand behind ones values stronger then the desire to contribute to your earnings.

bhutocracy

of course not, but im certainly not going to knowingly say something thats obviously incorrect. why not correct a mistake?

besides i don't see whats so horrible or "bullshit" about pointing out two people who can understand the situation and not be reactionary towards their "enemy" i thought it was a little uplifting.. a small ray of hope to see they thought of each other as more than animals.. im sorry you take offense at anything thats not rabid frothing at the mouth diatribe.

the highlights i made were neither pro arab nor pro jew.. i don't see any motivation for your pointless interjection.. unless you took offense at my earlier statement that Israel is vulnerable to Iraqi attack. or that im not slavishly anti arab.

i almost replied back to your "he's faking it" joke with a "LOL" but i got sidetracked.. i don't care for either side in this affair - the palestinians are responsible for more civilian deaths than the jews.. and you can't really ignore that fact. they also feel the jews have stolen their land.. you can't ignore that fact.

im guessing you just wanted to piss a relative fence sitter off..

12clicks

ooh, special high volume deals! my god! I think sleazydream has a spot for you at his dinner. hahaha.
I shit more volume than you make deals for dopey.

look joker, you should get to bed. the day job won't tolerate you over sleeping.

do they know you're a terrorist sympathizer?
You terrorist sympathizers want to call us racist because we point out the fact that there are NO good arabs, only ones who haven't found explosives yet.
hahahaha

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12clicks

fence sitters get poked in the ass. no?

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dewpoint

12 clicks...so, how about it...your program's name? And please explain to me how a serious webmaster who usually only comes to this board for real business info is a part timer when a obvious fool like yourself who is on the board all the time is a "real" webmaster. Oh, that's right, correct me if I'm wrong. Your exit programs have dialers. That doesn't require work or even clever marketing.

How did this thread get so side lined...because the type of comments you make are dangerous and they are racist, and should not be tolerated by any decent society.

bhutocracy

heheh.. yeah.. especially when viewing the situation from my nice white picket fence.

MrBrian

those are probably pics from the lapd

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GotGauge

On that basis, the Palestimians have got every right to defend their country against a foriegn military in any way they can just like we would


Then Bomb Military people/buildings, NOT innocent people on buses, church clubs, etc

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12clicks

how dare you make fun of my dialer?
I'm such a clever marketer that even a part timer like yourself knows of my dialer.
pretty goog marketing I'd say.

hey, come back in the morning you big timer and show me THIS is your day job.
hahahahaha

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12clicks

funny you didn't dispute the "terrorist sympathizer" tag.

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dewpoint

Your program's name? Still waiting...

12clicks

dude, I don't help the stupid, I make fun of them.

If you don't know what I've been doing for the last 4 yrs, it reflects poorly upon you, not me.

don't worry, someone will take sympathy on you and whisper in your ear. (once your foot is deeper in your mouth than it is now of course)

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12clicks

better yet, I'll tell you myself during normal business hours tomorrow.

but only if YOU are actually here during the day.

ahahahahahaha you big timer

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