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  • GTS Mark
    Vrume Mark
    • Jan 2001
    • 20912

    #1

    Do You Agree With This Business Philosophy?

    "Treat your customers like they own you, because they do."

    Mark Cuban, co-founder, HDNet; owner, Dallas Mavericks

    DH
  • tony299
    lurker
    • Aug 2002
    • 57021

    #2
    Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
    "Treat your customers like they own you, because they do."

    Mark Cuban, co-founder, HDNet; owner, Dallas Mavericks

    DH
    He uses hard words but its true without the customer we are nothing. I learned that when I worked for Mercedes.

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    • Major (Tom)
      So Fucking Banned
      • Nov 2003
      • 32492

      #3
      i would say there is a large degree of truth to that...

      now get me my coffee bitch!!!

      Duke

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      • Donny
        As you wish...
        • May 2002
        • 13754

        #4
        How about this one:

        Build the largest solo girl network on earth, then realize that although you're making millions you're also spending millions. Lay off your Vice President. Fire your photographer too. Then stop paying the models at the beginning of 2006 and live off content that you've shot ahead of time until it all runs out. When it's gone, maybe you'll just retire or something...

        Sound like a good business plan?

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        • GTS Mark
          Vrume Mark
          • Jan 2001
          • 20912

          #5
          Originally posted by tony404
          He uses hard words but its true without the customer we are nothing. I learned that when I worked for Mercedes.
          Yep, it's harsh but I really believe in the philosophy that the customer is ALWAYS right.

          DH

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          • GTS Mark
            Vrume Mark
            • Jan 2001
            • 20912

            #6
            Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
            i would say there is a large degree of truth to that...

            now get me my coffee bitch!!!

            Duke
            Yes Massa Duke!

            DH

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            • Tempest
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • May 2004
              • 10217

              #7
              Pretty much yes.... That's why I try not to get into businesses where I have to deal with customers...

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              • Hell Puppy
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2002
                • 183

                #8
                In this industry there have been a lot of people who just burn thru customers for the quick turn of the buck. It's part of why we have a bad reputation in general, and it's also responsible for where we are with things like Visa regulations.

                In any other business, customer is king.

                We've always used this methodology with our customers and we have guys that are still recurring dating back to the late 90's on some of our sites as a result. Those are no accident or simply forgotten cancellations as they update their cards when they expire. It doesn't cost near as much to go to the extra effort to treat a customer well, deliver what you promise and keep him coming back for more than it does to acquire a new customer....especially one that'll recur over and over.

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                • $5 submissions
                  I help you SUCCEED
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 32195

                  #9
                  Very wise words.

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                  • GTS Mark
                    Vrume Mark
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 20912

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hell Puppy
                    In this industry there have been a lot of people who just burn thru customers for the quick turn of the buck. It's part of why we have a bad reputation in general, and it's also responsible for where we are with things like Visa regulations.

                    In any other business, customer is king.

                    We've always used this methodology with our customers and we have guys that are still recurring dating back to the late 90's on some of our sites as a result. Those are no accident or simply forgotten cancellations as they update their cards when they expire. It doesn't cost near as much to go to the extra effort to treat a customer well, deliver what you promise and keep him coming back for more than it does to acquire a new customer....especially one that'll recur over and over.
                    Some really good points here

                    DH

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                    • pornguy
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 62912

                      #11
                      I am from the east coast. Florida to be exact. and the main supermarket there is Publix. they have signes all over the place that say that the customer is always right. I have seen people take a loaf of bread with 4 slices left in it, and it got moldy, they take it back, and publix will replace it, or refund the money.

                      If you pick out an item, and take it to the register, and it rings up a higher price, and you show them the price on the shelf listed, they will give you that item no charge. NO matter what the item is.

                      That is CS!
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                      • GTS Mark
                        Vrume Mark
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 20912

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                        How about this one:

                        Build the largest solo girl network on earth, then realize that although you're making millions you're also spending millions. Lay off your Vice President. Fire your photographer too. Then stop paying the models at the beginning of 2006 and live off content that you've shot ahead of time until it all runs out. When it's gone, maybe you'll just retire or something...

                        Sound like a good business plan?
                        Actually sounds like a pretty good plan to me

                        No staff to worry about, no content to worry about, expenses are at an all time low. You run on a barebones operation until the income drys out entirely and retire a very rich man.

                        DH

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                        • GTS Mark
                          Vrume Mark
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 20912

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pornguy
                          I am from the east coast. Florida to be exact. and the main supermarket there is Publix. they have signes all over the place that say that the customer is always right. I have seen people take a loaf of bread with 4 slices left in it, and it got moldy, they take it back, and publix will replace it, or refund the money.

                          If you pick out an item, and take it to the register, and it rings up a higher price, and you show them the price on the shelf listed, they will give you that item no charge. NO matter what the item is.

                          That is CS!
                          Sears has very similar customer service policies. They want that customer for life

                          DH

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                          • Sly
                            Let's do some business!
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 31376

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                            How about this one:

                            Build the largest solo girl network on earth, then realize that although you're making millions you're also spending millions. Lay off your Vice President. Fire your photographer too. Then stop paying the models at the beginning of 2006 and live off content that you've shot ahead of time until it all runs out. When it's gone, maybe you'll just retire or something...

                            Sound like a good business plan?
                            Sounds like an exit strategy to me. What else is someone to do who wants out of the business with little-to-no possible buyers?
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                            • Donny
                              As you wish...
                              • May 2002
                              • 13754

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sly
                              Sounds like an exit strategy to me. What else is someone to do who wants out of the business with little-to-no possible buyers?
                              Probably right. Not a bad exit strategy either.

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                              • sltr
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 3191

                                #16
                                i'm customer-centric to a fault and it is sound advice to realize the customer owns you but i don't agree that the customer is always right.

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                                • Bman
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 1679

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
                                  "Treat your customers like they own you, because they do."

                                  Mark Cuban, co-founder, HDNet; owner, Dallas Mavericks

                                  DH
                                  Yeah thats sounds about right. I have been in this biz 4 years now. i have had like 5 clients. Still do biz with each one. I believe that 100%. Have to treat employees good too, they treat the customers right. ;)
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                                    • Dec 2004
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
                                    "Treat your customers like they own you, because they do."

                                    Mark Cuban, co-founder, HDNet; owner, Dallas Mavericks

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                                    • PixeLs
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                                      • Jul 2005
                                      • 11922

                                      #19
                                      Business survives because of them so I guess costumers should be valued that much..

                                      Nice line there..

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                                      • GTS Mark
                                        Vrume Mark
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 20912

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sltr
                                        i'm customer-centric to a fault and it is sound advice to realize the customer owns you but i don't agree that the customer is always right.
                                        If a customer doesn't want to deal with you anymore because they feel they were wronged, guess what... Who cares who was right or wrong, you just lost yourself a customer.

                                        Understand what I am trying to say

                                        DH

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                                        • jayeff
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 2944

                                          #21
                                          I have had three successful bricks-and-mortar businesses. All of them were customer driven and I strongly believe that is primarily why they were successful.

                                          Obviously that is not the only way to do business, but in the long run it is almost always the best way to do business. It is also usually much easier to sell what people actually want, than to have to convince them to accept a substitute. You can fool some of the people... etc...

                                          And in my experience, businesses which treat their customers badly are nearly always poorly run. Without customers driving standards and forcing constant change and improvement, management becomes complacent and inefficient.

                                          But, and it is a big but, there are far more businesses which claim to be customer driven, but are not, than businesses which are too short-sighted and unambitious to understand the sense of putting their customers first. To paraphrase Tom Peters, co-author of "In Search of Excellence", there is a world of difference between companies which exist by their slogans and companies which only use slogans to paper their walls.

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                                          • sltr
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2002
                                            • 3191

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
                                            If a customer doesn't want to deal with you anymore because they feel they were wronged, guess what... Who cares who was right or wrong, you just lost yourself a customer.

                                            Understand what I am trying to say

                                            DH
                                            that is correct but that has no bearing on the fact that the customer is not always right.

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                                            • jayeff
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2001
                                              • 2944

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by sltr
                                              i don't agree that the customer is always right.
                                              I have always thought the real meaning of that cliché is that a customer is a customer, so the question of wrong or right is irrelevant. The only thing which matters is whether or not you want to keep them as a customer.

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                                              • sltr
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 3191

                                                #24
                                                here's an example:

                                                a customer buys a product that has a rebate, mails in the rebate and returns the product-

                                                that customer is not right and is not a profitable customer

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                                                • Sly
                                                  Let's do some business!
                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                  • 31376

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by sltr
                                                  that is correct but that has no bearing on the fact that the customer is not always right.
                                                  The phrase wasn't meant to be taken in a literal sense. Of course customers aren't always right, but they should be treated like they were. Educating your customers is a GREAT way to keep everybody happy.
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                                                  • je_rome
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                                                    • Jul 2005
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
                                                    "Treat your customers like they own you, because they do."

                                                    Mark Cuban, co-founder, HDNet; owner, Dallas Mavericks

                                                    DH
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                                                    • SilentKnight
                                                      Megan Fox's fluffer
                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                      • 24818

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
                                                      Yep, it's harsh but I really believe in the philosophy that the customer is ALWAYS right.

                                                      DH
                                                      I thought that way for years, also. But these days I've changed it to:

                                                      The customer may not always be right...but their wishes must always be adhered to.

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                                                      • sltr
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                        • 3191

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Sly
                                                        The phrase wasn't meant to be taken in a literal sense.
                                                        that was exactly my point

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