Tony404, did you ever think that freedom was free and gained without pain or hardship? This is America. When the fuckers push, push back. FREE SPEECH has to be FOUGHT for or you will LOSE it.

We all might soon have the opportunity to throw down and engage the biggest fucking fight that the internet porn industry has ever seen....

Keep tuned in to this case as it all unfolds....you might be very surprised.

Hm, Anyone remember the BeckaLynn case? She lived in lakeland and had an amateur site. Larry was her lawyer, even, when the cops came knocking. She eventually had to agree to never run a site while living in Polk County and a few other things, but that was after a pretty extended back and forth battle.

OF course they can but chances are they wont.The only sites and performers they have gone after in polk county are the sites and performers that are actually based in polk county. Do your research Im not making this up.

He doesn't want to fight. He wants to run and hide and let his fellow webmasters get picked off with no support until they decide to take everyone down. If Polk County is so hardcore about porn they could easily prosecute every site owner in the US using Polk County standards for obscenity.

Free Speech is Free Speech, no obsenity isnt directly in the constitution and it doesnt need to be.. Flat out, porn is NOT obscene, it is only obscene in the bible. I can go on TV right now and watch SHO, HBO or whatever and see obscenity all night long... hell i can read the bible and read all kinds of obscene shit.

I heard today that in Tampa Florida, (which is in hillsborough county right next to Polk), was some random demonstrations going on from some church holding signs near a mall (shopping season) stating that GOD HATES FAGS, FAGS WILL DIE, FAGS GO TO HELL.... now i would consider that pretty hateful aka well OBSCENE... Imagine all the innocent little children seeing that and asking " daddy whats a FAG?"

Porn is not obscene?

That is up to the powers that be to be determined.

re: Miller test.

obscenity is not freedom of speech its not protected speech you people have to get this out of your heads, if on Chris's site he had no porn on it just war pics and commentary that argument would work but they charged him with obscenity and according to their community standards they are probably right.I believe in fighting the good fight but dont make yourself a easy target.

run and hide thats funny coming from someone in safe Canada. If I was afraid I would close my sites. One more time polk county goes after sites and people who operate in polk county.

So what? Have you ever stopped to consider that this is a fight that needs to be fought?

What fight is that these people dont want people running porn sites in their county? Also with Chris being back in Jail leads me to maybe these arent the greatest legal minds defending him. Larry didnt win with the solo girl site there , she promised to never operate a porn site in polk county thats not a win.You are not going to win that fight, ever realize all the big porn companies are in LA because no cares if they are there. You dont see
Vivid to moving their offices to Utah because they operate where there is the bullshit is low. Its not a god given right to do porn wherever you want in this country.

Tony404, you're questions deserve to be answered by me...however, I'm too tired to continue.. However Chadglini can carry on....he shares my feelings.i

I posted that link on post # 20...

If all you dickheads have read it ( and as you know, I always backup claims with serious documents and links, contrary too many here ), you would know what it is about ....

This thread is a sad example of how vulnerable and alone we are ...

And when I say "we", I mean people REALLY working in this business ...

I don't have one bare tit on my server. I'm moving 100% to mainstream partially because of attitudes like yours. This case will affect me absolutely 0% and I care about it more than you do. So tell me, what the fuck is wrong with you people? How can you not see the big picture and how important this case and others like it are for this industry? I mean seriously, are you all blind, stupid, or a combination of both?

Chadlini, my apology for tossing you in where you may not wanna be.

Back to business....Tony404, there is a freak county in Florida who thinks they have jurisdiction over the internet. This includes you now...what do you say?

Support Chris Wilson...all I gotta say

Your the one that is blind, you have it in your head this is a fight for freedom even when your shown in that county this how they treat porn . What is wrong with you once you get a idea in your head you dont have the ability to change. Actually the case that effects us all is not Chris's but Rob Blacks, thats the feds and thats going to become a constitutional fight. I see very little on this board on that one or lets raise money for Rob. My attitude is that I have a healthy respect for the law and cross as many t's as possible so Im not a target ?? Know the law pretty cold and make sure Im following it as close as possible. If thats a bad attitude then I have one, sorry if I dont follow the Im on the internet I can do whatever the fuck I want one that seems to be so popular. Maybe its because Im older and have worked in adlut in bricks and mortar, you have to follow rules it was that simple.

:1orglaugh @ "Chosen One"

No its only for people that live in polk county why do you have such a fucking hard time with that. I do support Chris and plan to give money but I still feel if he was in tampa this wouldnt of happened to him. Which is my right its called freedom of speech.

I didn't read this whole topic yet, but I think everyone knows this case has nothing to do with porn, except it's being used as a way to censor free speech.

This is about the soldier's pictures from Iraq and Afghanistan. They know it would be all over the world press and on every damn TV news show if they tried to take him down because of the soldier's pics.

So instead they back door him with the easy target.. Porn.. After all who is going to stand up for porn?

Ahh...no...no you didn't.

Your link from post #20.

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.d...512170398/1039

chadglni's clarifying link from post #78

But this is often the type of misinformation that you post which makes this...from you...even more amusing.

"If all you dickheads have read it ( and as you know, I always backup claims with serious documents and links, contrary too many here ), you would know what it is about ...."

It does NOT matter what you do personally. A lot of people don't want to push any boundaries themselves. That doesn't mean you shouldn't support the people that do it for you. A local government bringing obscenity charges should be scarier than the feds because they could easily find a small community that wants nothing to do with porn and bring every adult site based in the US up on obscenity charges one at a time. You don't think the federal government knows they have that trick up their sleeve? :1orglaugh

Also, I'm pretty sure I saw the STATE prosecutor claim that site was illegal so if you are in the same state as Chris he thinks the same about you. How much more local do you want them to get?

Obviously not porn webmasters. Good night everyone.

Oops...

chadglni's clarifying link from post #78

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.d...511300341/1134

It's sad but true... No one gives a shit about anyone else until it's their turn. I've personally tried to spread the word about this case.

Click on that link and read around it will give a real idea of how it is in polk county. THey have all the articles about this next to this story.

Polk County is part of America. There is no room for witchhunts in this country anymore. :(

free chris

He isnt fighting for me, he is fighting for himself. Lets get that straight and once again why do you have problem facing the truth about polk county. Go read the peoples comments they dont want people working in porn in their county whats so fucking hard to understand. All of Florida is not like that you go to Miami Score is in a office park with a big sign, Bang brothers are also are in Miami and they are not getting arrested. This isnt a trick this is polk county. THe feds wants you they go after you directly they dont have to hide they have lots of money to fight.

You guys need to live in the real world not the its not fair world. Community standards, its their right. I not saying I agree but thats the way it fucking is .Why is that so hard to understand.

I dont know you but its big talk from someone going to mainstream and living in a country where this isnt a problem.

You know, maybe I don't want someone that works for a cigarette company to live in my country.. Does that give me and my neighbors if they agree with me, the right to dictate who can and can't live in my county?

My grandfather died of lung cancer from smoking cigarettes, I don't think they should be aloud to be sold in my country, state or country.. Should I have the right to dictate the rules that others should have to follow?

Hum.....

its not showing him being housed


http://www.polksheriff.org/cgi-bin/i...st=&current=on

"You guys need to live in the real world not the its not fair world. Community standards, its their right. I not saying I agree but thats the way it fucking is .Why is that so hard to understand."


Well this whole issue brings up the problem with different "communities" who can come up with their own "standards". Theres many thousand different communities here in the US and if we allow Polk County to get away with this, imagine all the other counties that will follow???????? Might be yours..................... I dont know about you.. but I dont want to only be safe in 1 or 2 cities like San Fran or Los Angeles.. i wanna live and operate my business where I so please........

What an idiot you are ...

How can a link of an article of November 30th clarify a link to an article of December 17th ???? They knew ahead of time ...

Both links are the same paper, the same author ...

When I mentioned people not working in this busines, I was refering to YOU, IDIOT :321GFY

You go blabbing, never a single pertinent leak ...


Please die again.

I bet he aint smileing now :Oh crap

http://www.polksheriff.org/briefings...ael_Wilson.jpg

community standards gives them that power. Do I agree with this no I dont but thats how it is so I have to try to work best in the world the way it is. Do I think if you dont like porn just dont buy it.Yes I do ,I feel adults should have the right to look at what they want and parents should be responsible for what their children see on the net but I also have a healthy respect for the real world I live in.

Read this shit......

http://www.polksheriff.org/briefings...Material.pd f

Jeebus....how about pulling up some of the actual articles all over this board about it...they're free, yano.

... btw "community standards" no longer come into play anyways since this "GENIUS" concept was ruled on in the 70's which was before the Internet was here. It just doesnt work, it never really worked and instead allowed for your typical religeous fundementalists to abuse it.... as now...

polk county has been doing this quiet a while the sheriff there I assume has to get elcted so the people support his stand. Where I live they give away papers filled with hookers, you can buy hardcore penthouse at the local borders. THey preview pornos at the art movie theatre. If I didnt live here ,if I lived in a place like polk I wouldnt be doing porn for a living.

Hey dont be a smart ass ... i went to there website and it does not show him housed which i find weird.....

You can send your $$$ to my paypal: [email protected]

http://imgsrv.theledger.com/apps/pbc...xW=580&title=1

RICK RUNION/THE LEDGER
Bailiff Bobby Hopper, left, escorts Internet pornographer Chris Wilson to a holding cell after Wilson's bail was revoked Friday by Judge Dale Durrance in Bartow.

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.d...512170398/1039


I don't think he is the brightest bulb in the building ... but still doesn't deserve to be jailed.

From the 2nd paragraph here:

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradent...l/13431378.htm

He violated the terms of his bail, end of story, he ISNT in jail because of the obscenity charges, he's in jail because the guy was a doofus and had a doofus representing him.

Guess it aint gonna be Santa emptying his sacks for Chris this Christmas, its gonna be Bubba Claus instead :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

Tony, I'm fucking offended by what you do...where to you live again? yeah, there, I want your disgusting activities to stop THERE....and NOW. k?

Fact...the link that you posted is different than the link chadglni posted. The link that you posted does not clarify the reasons for surrounding the bail/revocation as well as chadgini's link...thank you very much.

Your claim was a false claim as is many...if not most...of your claims about any subject.

BTW...I usually take several "pertinent leaks" daily.

Lets see my soft core sites they find more disgusting then the free books offer all over the place filled with hookers and pro dommes or that my buddy the porn king of GA is going to be on the cover of creative loafing in Jan or that his buddy Neil bortz talks about him on his morning radio show. Once again you decide to do porn in a place where they have a history of going after web porn from webcam models to a soft core solo girl site. You are taking a gamble its that simple. THe its not fair is not enough we are not children. Why is this so hard to understand,

Oh wait I forgot something else three months ago where I live the local art movie theatre showed Johhny WADD and the lolipop girls in 3d and no one cared.

All this is a scam...uh..yeah. When did you get out?

Who the hell said it was a scam... Dont put words in my mouth

You are so right ....

That is why the article I posted is titled:

Net Porn Owner Back in Jail

and I think it was about the actual hearing that threw him back in jail .. there is even a pic of him escorted to the cell ...

But you are right ... It is false .... :321GFY

Go make a new " Good morning Americans" thread ...

And you are still laughing about this. What is wrong with you, you sick fuck? You are incorrect with your info....but regardless....it totally weirds me out that a man in your...good God, I dont even wanna think.

Can I abort this message here?