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TurboAngel · 12-18-2005, 04:03 PM

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theking · 12-18-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

The news articles state:

"However, the State Attorney's Office (Read it as "Jeb Bush's Chief Law Enforcer",) last month filed a motion to revoke Wilson's bail because he continued to operate the Web site and to post new pictures on it following his arrest."

However, the article states that this was not the case:

"Mooney also argued that because Wilson moved to Orlando after he was released on bail, he was not violating Polk County law by running his Web site while living in another county.

And after Wilson's arrest, no one from the Sheriff's Office told Wilson to stop running his Web site or to stop posting any materials on the Web site, Mooney said."

The webservers are in Amsterdam.

I do not think it would not be within the authority of the Sheriff's Office to tell him to stop running his Web site or to stop posting any materials on the Web site. It is not within the autohority of the Sheriff's Office to revoke his bail or to officially call for the revocation of bail.

Charges are not brought by the Sheriff's Office...they are brought by the Prosecutor. Bail is not set and/or the conditions of bail are not set by the Sheriff's Office. Bail is set by a Judge and the conditions of bail are set by a Judge...and the judge may follow recommendations of the Prosecutor if the Prosecutor requests conditions be placed upon the granting of bail.

Thus I have to assume that conditions of bail were placed upon the defendent by the Judge and very possibility at the recommendation of the Prosecutor.

The Sheriff's office cannot revoke bail...but the Sheriff's office could have informed the Prosecutors Office that he was violating the conditions of bail and the Prosecutor then, after verifying this, would bring him before the Judge and present his case that the defendant is in violation of the conditions of bail.

Bottom line is...he apparently violated the conditions of bail.

Diego · 12-18-2005, 04:38 PM

Bottom line is....his free speech is being run over. Sorry. It'll all come out later....rather than everyone get themselves in a foam about it. Just watch what happens. No need to fight. Have faith and support what you think is right.

SmokeyTheBear · 12-18-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Diego

Bottom line is....his free speech is being run over. Sorry. It'll all come out later....rather than everyone get themselves in a foam about it. Just watch what happens. No need to fight. Have faith and support what you think is right.

Pleasurepays · 12-18-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

OK, granted, Chris is trying to save his ass.

Does that mean we, as a group, should do nothing to help him?

Next time anybody has a legal problem, should the adult internet community STFU and say "he is just trying to save his ass" and do nothing?

Where would you draw the line between help and no help?

dude... its fine to say "hey, this guy needs help. he made a few mistakes. but this could possibly affect us all" - i would agree with you to some extent. what i object to you tellling me that he is fighting for me, on my behalf and your constant mischaracterization of the circumstances and facts to incite fear... and always following it up with "please send money to..."

theking · 12-18-2005, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diego

Bottom line is....his free speech is being run over. Sorry. It'll all come out later....rather than everyone get themselves in a foam about it. Just watch what happens. No need to fight. Have faith and support what you think is right.

It will be determined at trial if "his free speech is being run over" and not until then. It is apparent that in this county the law of "community standards" will be applied. The Supreme Court has previously ruled that "community standards" are legally applicable.

Redrob · 12-18-2005, 05:00 PM

I found it interesting that the orders to put Chris in jail came from the State Attorney, ie. Jeb Bush's chief Law Enforcement Officer. Think there is any relation there to GW's popularity problems.........No way

I bet the whole problem for Chris started in the State Attorney's office and Polk County is just the local enforcers. Time will tell. I can imagine something like this going on:

I can hear GW on the phone now calling his brother.

ring, ring:

Jeb: Hello, Gov'ner Mansion. Jeb speakin'.

GW: Hello, Jeb.

Jeb: Hi, George, Hoz'it in the White House? Is Dick still makin' us a ton of money skimmin' contracts in Iraq. I hope he remembers to put plenty in my account so I can run for President in 2008. We gotta keep a good thing goin'!

GW: That's why I'm callin', Jeb. Thing are gettin' a little hot, and I'm not sure we can steal enough votes to get you elected if my popularity keeps going down. It's gettin' really bad, and I'm workin' really hard. This war isn't goin' the way Dick and Rummy said it would.

Jeb: I'm doin' all that I can, George. I got Republican poll watchers in all lined up for the Black and Jewish neighborhoods. I also got a shitload of new Diabold votin' machines on order and we know how good they are.

GW: Yeah, yeah, that is good, Jeb. But, I need a favor. There is this guy down in Polk County that has pictures of dead Iraqiis on his website, and he is just gettin' too popular. People are seein' all those dead people and gettin' upset. They are talkin' about it and it is hurtin' my numbers and your future presidential election possiblilites. He's got nekkid people on the website, too! I think I'm gonna cry....(sniffle).

Jeb: Dont cry, George. I know! I'll have my State Attorney General give a call over there and see what we can do. If I remember, that Sheriff don't like nekkid people and we got a mean ass judge. He can't see so good, but, he sees well enough to know 'nekkid' when he see 'nekkid'. I'll get on it like a duck on a junebug, George.

GW: Thank you, Jeb. Mom likes it when we work together. I'll see you at Christmas at the ranch and we can chop some wood. Bye

Jeb: Bye, George.

Diego · 12-18-2005, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

It will be determined at trial if "his free speech is being run over" and not until then. It is apparent that in this county the law of "community standards" will be applied. The Supreme Court has previously ruled that "community standards" are legally applicable.

My thought is....that his attorney will move it up. His attorney is a smart cookie...he knows what he is doing.

Have faith people....this is democracy at work. period.

European Lee · 12-18-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Diego

My thought is....that his attorney will move it up. His attorney is a smart cookie...he knows what he is doing.

Which, i presume, is why he was told he'd be 'safe' if he kept his site live and moved out of Polk.. Yep, thats the kind of attorney i'd want representing me if something like this ever happened

Regards,

Lee

chadglni · 12-18-2005, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

Which, i presume, is why he was told he'd be 'safe' if he kept his site live and moved out of Polk.. Yep, thats the kind of attorney i'd want representing me if something like this ever happened

Regards,

Lee

You have to be one of the dumbest people to ever post here.

chadglni · 12-18-2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

Which, i presume, is why he was told he'd be 'safe' if he kept his site live and moved out of Polk.. Yep, thats the kind of attorney i'd want representing me if something like this ever happened

Regards,

Lee

http://www.maxhardcore.com/

Diego · 12-18-2005, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

Which, i presume, is why he was told he'd be 'safe' if he kept his site live and moved out of Polk.. Yep, thats the kind of attorney i'd want representing me if something like this ever happened

Regards,

Lee

Respectfully

Lee...what the fuck are you talking about? You have no idea the bigger picture here....it's ok...Chris doesn't need your support anyway...

European Lee · 12-18-2005, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diego

Respectfully

Lee...what the fuck are you talking about? You have no idea the bigger picture here....it's ok...Chris doesn't need your support anyway...

The bigger picture of what?

Some dude broke the terms of his bail, his bail got revoked.

Im not seeing any bigger picture with any of that?

Take 'porn' and 'obscenity' out of the equation, replace it with 'child porn' or 'rape'.

Do you people still think this hypothetical rapist or child pornographers first ammendment rights are being broken?

Some of you people really dont have a clue when you are being herded in to parting with your money.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with free speech, the first amendment or anything else on the same level.

This is about someone breaking the terms of their bail, nothing else.

Regards,

Lee

Mr.Fiction · 12-18-2005, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

Some dude broke the terms of his bail, his bail got revoked.

Im not seeing any bigger picture with any of that?

This is a prior restraint of free speech. Don't try to confuse the issue with real crimes. He is not accused of any crime other than offending some religious group. He has not been convicted of anything and they are trying to broadly stop him from exercising his constitutional right to free speech.

The government is acting unconstitutionally here.

As far as him trying to "save his ass", that exact same thing could be said of Larry Flynt in his fights where he furthered the free speech rights of all Americans.

If you have a problem with offending the government, take a look back at the way that Flynt tried to piss off the government back when he was under attack.

Redrob · 12-18-2005, 06:04 PM

European Lee,

The Polk County court system is rigged, and Chris' legal problems are about First Amendment Rights, Prior Restraint, and due process.

You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it; but, I feel your view is rather myopic.

Brujah · 12-18-2005, 06:06 PM

"We get the government we deserve..."

chadglni · 12-18-2005, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

European Lee,

The Polk County court system is rigged, and Chris' legal problems are about First Amendment Rights, Prior Restraint, and due process.

You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it; but, I feel your view is rather myopic.

Well that's because Lee is retarded.

European Lee · 12-18-2005, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

This is a prior restraint of free speech. Don't try to confuse the issue with real crimes.

You are correct, there WAS/IS a prior restraint of free speech.

However, THAT isnt what caused the guy to have his bail revoked.

The REAL crime is that he disobeyed a court order.. Period

That is why he is back in jail and being soddomized by Bubba and his buddies for Christmas.

If he followed the conditions of his bail, he'd still be a free man.

Regards,

Lee

theking · 12-18-2005, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction

This is a prior restraint of free speech. Don't try to confuse the issue with real crimes. He is not accused of any crime other than offending some religious group. He has not been convicted of anything and they are trying to broadly stop him from exercising his constitutional right to free speech.

The government is acting unconstitutionally here.

As far as him trying to "save his ass", that exact same thing could be said of Larry Flynt in his fights where he furthered the free speech rights of all Americans.

If you have a problem with offending the government, take a look back at the way that Flynt tried to piss off the government back when he was under attack.

If you are correct then there is not a problem with him easily winning the case at trial...now is there?

European Lee · 12-18-2005, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

European Lee,

The Polk County court system is rigged, and Chris' legal problems are about First Amendment Rights, Prior Restraint, and due process.

You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it; but, I feel your view is rather myopic.

You are wrong.

The obscenity charges are about first amendment rights, havin' his bail revoked is about him being a moron and not doing what a court ordered him to.

They are 2 completely different things, granted, the 2nd item (Bail revocation) is connected to the 1st item but, had he done what he was told by a judge, the 2nd item wouldnt even be an issue right now, thats my point.

Regards,

Lee

Diego · 12-18-2005, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

The bigger picture of what?

Some dude broke the terms of his bail, his bail got revoked.

Im not seeing any bigger picture with any of that?

Take 'porn' and 'obscenity' out of the equation, replace it with 'child porn' or 'rape'.

Do you people still think this hypothetical rapist or child pornographers first ammendment rights are being broken?

Some of you people really dont have a clue when you are being herded in to parting with your money.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with free speech, the first amendment or anything else on the same level.

This is about someone breaking the terms of their bail, nothing else.

Regards,

Lee

Eww..dude, You are throwing out garbage here..seriously...THIS IS ABOUT THE MANS FIRST AMENDMENTS RIGHTS.

Look beyond your own personal shiit. Your own sense of security and above all, you own narcissasism and see the bigger picture. All that I ask.
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theking · 12-18-2005, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

You are correct, there WAS/IS a prior restraint of free speech.

However, THAT isnt what caused the guy to have his bail revoked.

The REAL crime is that he disobeyed a court order.. Period

That is why he is back in jail and being soddomized by Bubba and his buddies for Christmas.

If he followed the conditions of his bail, he'd still be a free man.

Regards,

Lee

It too appears to me that you are 100% correct...although I have not been able to find an article that speaks to the conditions of bail the Judge imposed.

European Lee · 12-18-2005, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diego

Eww..dude, You are throwing out garbage here..seriously...THIS IS ABOUT THE MANS FIRST AMENDMENTS RIGHTS.

Look beyond your own personal shiit. Your own sense of security and above all, you own narcissasism and see the bigger picture. All that I ask.
a

Take a guess at how many US citizens have their bail revoked each and every day.

If was a first ammendment issue, do you really think we wouldnt have heard about it before now?

So far, the only people defending the clown in this thread are defending him beause of his obscenity charges which yes, i agree they are BS however, he fucked himself by breaking the conditions of his BAIL, that is why he is back in jail right now, not because of the obscenity stuff.

Regards,

Lee

theking · 12-18-2005, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diego

Eww..dude, You are throwing out garbage here..seriously...THIS IS ABOUT THE MANS FIRST AMENDMENTS RIGHTS.

Look beyond your own personal shiit. Your own sense of security and above all, you own narcissasism and see the bigger picture. All that I ask.
a

He apparently is currently in jail at this point for one reason and one reason only. He did not abide by the conditions of bail that he agreed to.

European Lee · 12-18-2005, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking

It too appears to me that you are 100% correct...although I have not been able to find an article that speaks to the conditions of bail the Judge imposed.

One of the links posted in this thread (i think) earlier said that one of the conditions was that he couldnt maintain the site (or something like that).

Im sure Rob will be happy to post any links he has on hand though

Regards,

Lee

Diego · 12-18-2005, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

Take a guess at how many US citizens have their bail revoked each and every day.

If was a first ammendment issue, do you really think we wouldnt have heard about it before now?

So far, the only people defending the clown in this thread are defending him beause of his obscenity charges which yes, i agree they are BS however, he fucked himself by breaking the conditions of his BAIL, that is why he is back in jail right now, not because of the obscenity stuff.

Regards,

Lee

That you would head that last post with 3 laughing mouths says a lot about you. Lee..you really don't have a clue and I'm not going to even post to you anymore on this.

theking · 12-18-2005, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

One of the links posted in this thread (i think) earlier said that one of the conditions was that he couldnt maintain the site (or something like that).

Im sure Rob will be happy to post any links he has on hand though

Regards,

Lee

The only information that I have read states that the Sheriff's Office did not tell him to shut his site down and/or post more images to his site. As I have pointed out this would not be within the authority of the Sheriff's Office. This would be within the authority of the Judge only.

chadglni · 12-18-2005, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

One of the links posted in this thread (i think) earlier said that one of the conditions was that he couldnt maintain the site (or something like that).

Im sure Rob will be happy to post any links he has on hand though

Regards,

Lee

I know you are too fucking retarded to understand things like most adults but please quit spouting this shit or show where in the fuck it was said that he specifically can't maintain his website.

"Prosecutors are asking a judge to revoke bail for Christoper Wilson because his adult pornography Web site continues to operate.

Wilson is required to "refrain from criminal activity" while out on bail and his Web site is illegal, the State Attorney's Office alleges in court documents filed this week."

"Copley maintains that by continuing to operate the Web site and by allowing new images to be downloaded, Wilson is breaking the law."

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.d...511300341/1134

Now, does that fucking look like he was specifically told not to run his site asshat? They are saying that his site is ILLEGAL and that because he is still running it he isn't refraining from criminal activity. Only problem is his website hasn't been proven illegal yet. You are a 100% certified fucking moron.

Mr.Fiction · 12-18-2005, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking

If you are correct then there is not a problem with him easily winning the case at trial...now is there?

Even if he will eventually win in court, he should not be sitting in jail if his only crime is offending right wingers.

What if they charged you with the "crime" of free speech and threw you in jail while awaiting a trial - would you feel better knowing that you would eventually be found innocent?

How many months of his life did Larry Flynt spend in prison before he was vindicated?

No one on GFY should be supporting government attacks on free speech.

chadglni · 12-18-2005, 06:27 PM

And the fucking kicker

"Although Wilson no longer lives in Polk County, the State Attorney's Office thinks that running that Web site is illegal and therefore Wilson is violating his bail conditions, according to Chip Thulberry, the state attorney's spokesman in Polk County."

If you can't see a fucking problem with this something is seriously wrong with you.

chadglni · 12-18-2005, 06:36 PM

Bump for the idiots who said he violated a specific clause in his bail agreement.

theking · 12-18-2005, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

I know you are too fucking retarded to understand things like most adults but please quit spouting this shit or show where in the fuck it was said that he specifically can't maintain his website.

"Prosecutors are asking a judge to revoke bail for Christoper Wilson because his adult pornography Web site continues to operate.

Wilson is required to "refrain from criminal activity" while out on bail and his Web site is illegal, the State Attorney's Office alleges in court documents filed this week."

"Copley maintains that by continuing to operate the Web site and by allowing new images to be downloaded, Wilson is breaking the law."

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.d...511300341/1134

Now, does that fucking look like he was specifically told not to run his site asshat? They are saying that his site is ILLEGAL and that because he is still running it he isn't refraining from criminal activity. Only problem is his website hasn't been proven illegal yet. You are a 100% certified fucking moron.

OK...that seems to clarify some things. Apparently the Judge did not place any special conditions for bail.

When the prosecutor filed a charge/charges...the Judge by binding the defendant over for trial accepted that the prosecutor has a prima facia case of criminal wrong doing. Since the content of the website was accepted by the judge as being a prima facia case of criminality...it only stands to reason that is why the judge revoked the bail as the same prima facia case of criminality was being continued.

His attorney should have issued a strong warning about the dangers of continuing to operate the website...and maybe he did.

chadglni · 12-18-2005, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking

His attorney should have issued a strong warning about the dangers of continuing to operate the website...and maybe he did.

Yes and being a first amendment attorney I would imagine he told him to leave the site online. Wouldn't shutting the site down be spun as admitting the site was illegal by the prosecution?

KRL · 12-18-2005, 06:47 PM

Rule #1 - Do not live or operate an adult or similar business in an ultra conservative community.

Rule #2 - You are not safe from prosecution by having your servers outside the US. Its hard to believe so many still think they can get away with this. You can't.

Rule #3 - Never ever mock, disrespect or laugh at the power of Federal Prosecutors, the DOJ, State Attorneys or FBI Agents. They can and will fuck your life upside down even if they don't successfully nail your ass in a prosecution.

Rule #4 - The closer you operate to the edge of the law, the greater the probability you'll get sliced one day.

Rule #5 - If the heat comes down on you, don't count on much support from the industry, you're on your own.

theking · 12-18-2005, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

Yes and being a first amendment attorney I would imagine he told him to leave the site online. Wouldn't shutting the site down be spun as admitting the site was illegal by the prosecution?

A good attorney should have given a strong warning as to the risks of leaving the site up...as it would not be the attorneys ass going to jail for revocation of bail.

I have know possible way of knowing what the spin would have been or will be by either the prosecutor or the defense attorney at trial. But it is now apparent why bail was revoked.

Diego · 12-18-2005, 06:50 PM

Throw down for your brother, Chris. I understand why many of you are on the fence...nobody is asking you to jump into the fray and get a bloody nose. But fuck, can't you throw down a buck or two to help him out?

What about the outcome of this? What if he wins a judment that benefits us all? READ the news reports....SEE the injustice...IMAGINE if Polk County is slapped down.

Victory for us all! Imagine......

theking · 12-18-2005, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

Rule #1 - Do not live or operate an adult or similar business in an ultra conservative community.

Rule #2 - You are not safe from prosecution by having your servers outside the US. Its hard to believe so many still think they can get away with this. You can't.

Rule #3 - Never ever mock, disrespect or laugh at the power of Federal Prosecutors, the DOJ, State Attorneys or FBI Agents. They can and will fuck your life upside down even if they don't successfully nail your ass in a prosecution.

Rule #4 - The closer you operate to the edge of the law, the greater the probability you'll get sliced one day.

Rule #5 - If the heat comes down on you, don't count on much support from the industry, you're on your own.

What mount have you been on recently? KRL...I think you should get out the stone tablets...as well as your hammer and chisel.

Redrob · 12-18-2005, 06:57 PM

Rule #6 - You are never safe in a liberal community cause the government will download your site in Polk County and prosecute you if Jeb calls down from the State House.

Rule #7 - The judge will not have to follow due process and will put you in jail pending trial if Jeb calls down from the State House.

Rule #8 - Putting your sorry ass in jail is doing "God's Work"

Rule #9 - Many of your fellow webmasters will bash you for being the "Chosen One"

Rule #10 - The prosecutors will make it a terrible burden on you by making you post a seperate bond for each photo on your website.

Diego · 12-18-2005, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

Rule #6 - You are never safe in a liberal community cause the government will download your site in Polk County and prosecute you if Jeb calls down from the State House.

Rule #7 - The judge will not have to follow due process and will put you in jail pending trial if Jeb calls down from the State House.

Rule #8 - Putting your sorry ass in jail is doing "God's Work"

Rule #9 - Many of your fellow webmasters will bash you for being the "Chosen One"

Rule #10 - The prosecutors will make it a terrible burden on you by making you post a seperate bond for each photo on your website.

# 9 is heartbreaking.

Diego · 12-18-2005, 07:41 PM

Chris is sitting in jail tonight...wondering if anyone cares. Just a word or two to get back to him would help. C'mon people.

Redrob · 12-18-2005, 07:46 PM

1,000 views on this thread.......

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tony286 · 12-18-2005, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

Rule #6 - You are never safe in a liberal community cause the government will download your site in Polk County and prosecute you if Jeb calls down from the State House.

Rule #7 - The judge will not have to follow due process and will put you in jail pending trial if Jeb calls down from the State House.

Rule #8 - Putting your sorry ass in jail is doing "God's Work"

Rule #9 - Many of your fellow webmasters will bash you for being the "Chosen One"

I am sorry you holding him up be a matyr and he is not a few things first to straighten up for this crowd.
1. obscenity is not protected speech
2. community standards still matter
3. its apparent before this Chris must of never saw a lawyer because a lawyer would of told him a. it doesnt matter where your server is unless you live there and b. what the fuck are doing operating a adult site out of polk county.
The feds going after him thru the locals argument would work if polk county had no history of this and out of the blue they attacked Chris. They went after fucking cam girls on ifriends.
I wish Chris the best in this hard time but once again he knew where he lived and choose to ignore it, having his server overseas leads me to believe he had a idea polk wasnt the best place to do this.
People on the web think they can do whatever the fuck they want with no healthy respect for the forces against us treat this as a wake up call. Also you follow the fucking court order unless your sitting on millions to fight you follow it. If it means you work at 7-11 til its over you do what you have to do but you are free.

KRL · 12-18-2005, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

Rule #6 - You are never safe in a liberal community cause the government will download your site in Polk County and prosecute you if Jeb calls down from the State House.

Rule #7 - The judge will not have to follow due process and will put you in jail pending trial if Jeb calls down from the State House.

Rule #8 - Putting your sorry ass in jail is doing "God's Work"

Rule #9 - Many of your fellow webmasters will bash you for being the "Chosen One"

Rule #10 - The prosecutors will make it a terrible burden on you by making you post a seperate bond for each photo on your website.

Yeh, watching the news this week is making me sick to my stomach.

The President has decided the executive office is above the law, doesn't need the FISA court, doesn't need congressional approval, and can authorize the NSA to do domestic evesdropping on anyone they decide is a threat.

They have clearly violated the geneve convention with all the torture camps they've allow the CIA to setup and run.

God only knows what else is going on that hasn't come into the limelight yet.

I've never seen Condi Rice trying to defend the admin so nervously as when she was on Meet The Press today. She was sweating and talking so fast it was frightening since she usually can keep her cool under pressure. There obviously must be more to this story than has come out.

Diego · 12-18-2005, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

I am sorry you holding him up be a matyr and he is not a few things first to straighten up for this crowd.
1. obscenity is not protected speech
2. community standards still matter
3. its apparent before this Chris must of never saw a lawyer because a lawyer would of told him a. it doesnt matter where your server is unless you live there and b. what the fuck are doing operating a adult site out of polk county.
The feds going after him thru the locals argument would work if polk county had no history of this and out of the blue they attacked Chris. They went after fucking cam girls on ifriends.
I wish Chris the best in this hard time but once again he knew where he lived and choose to ignore it, having his server overseas leads me to believe he had a idea polk wasnt the best place to do this.
People on the web think they can do whatever the fuck they want with no healthy respect for the forces against us treat this as a wake up call. Also you follow the fucking court order unless your sitting on millions to fight you follow it. If it means you work at 7-11 til its over you do what you have to do but you are free.

Tony404.......what?

Basically, here were Chris' choices....

1. roll over to an injustice.

2. Run.

3. Stand and fight.

Personally, the man who stood to fight in an arena regarding my own business has my support.

Chris is no idiot...nor are his attorneys...If you've taken the time to look at this case, you'll see it's in the bag. There is something much bigger going on here.

That's all.

Redrob · 12-18-2005, 08:11 PM

Happy Holidays!!

I'll see all you nice folks in Vegas. Good Night and Sweet Dreams.

tony286 · 12-18-2005, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diego

Tony404.......what?

Basically, here were Chris' choices....

1. roll over to an injustice.

2. Run.

3. Stand and fight.

Personally, the man who stood to fight in an arena regarding my own business has my support.

Chris is no idiot...nor are his attorneys...If you've taken the time to look at this case, you'll see it's in the bag. There is something much bigger going on here.

That's all.

What are you talking about? Stand and fight if he doesnt defend himself in court he goes to jail, he is not a crusader. I have read the local paper from where this is happening,they dont want fucking porn in their town whats so hard to understand about that. Its your attitude which isnt uncommon that causes these problems, this its not fair so I can do what I want. If Chris's lawyer was so smart he wouldnt be sitting in jail for probably the next two years until this is over. The poor guy.

Redrob · 12-18-2005, 08:20 PM

The porn wasn't in their town.......Chris was.

tony286 · 12-18-2005, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

The porn wasn't in their town.......Chris was.

oh stop either was ifriends and they went after cam models and a small soft core solo girl site.

tony286 · 12-18-2005, 08:27 PM

Where my wife is from I can get alot more house for my money girls very very cheap that are hot but they dont like porn there, no adult mags for sale anywhere ,no adult books stores. So this isnt a place where I would put my business because I wouldnt want to be a target. I like to be quiet , make my money have a nice life, because of this I have a separate office, a business license, a lawyer that I get in the car and drive to tampa to go see at least once a year. He is conservative about things and I follow his judgement so Im conservative about my business. I wish Chris all the best and I truly hope he sticks it far up their ass but it frustrates me how many there are out there like him making it easy to be cherry picked.

chadglni · 12-18-2005, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

What are you talking about? Stand and fight if he doesnt defend himself in court he goes to jail, he is not a crusader. I have read the local paper from where this is happening,they dont want fucking porn in their town whats so hard to understand about that. Its your attitude which isnt uncommon that causes these problems, this its not fair so I can do what I want. If Chris's lawyer was so smart he wouldnt be sitting in jail for probably the next two years until this is over. The poor guy.

They could go after your site as well and you don't live there.

12-18-2005, 06:06 PM	#66
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12-18-2005, 06:47 PM	#84
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Rule #1 - Do not live or operate an adult or similar business in an ultra conservative community. Rule #2 - You are not safe from prosecution by having your servers outside the US. Its hard to believe so many still think they can get away with this. You can't. Rule #3 - Never ever mock, disrespect or laugh at the power of Federal Prosecutors, the DOJ, State Attorneys or FBI Agents. They can and will fuck your life upside down even if they don't successfully nail your ass in a prosecution. Rule #4 - The closer you operate to the edge of the law, the greater the probability you'll get sliced one day. Rule #5 - If the heat comes down on you, don't count on much support from the industry, you're on your own. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

12-18-2005, 04:03 PM	#51
TurboAngel H.B.I.C. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Posts: 30,122	51???????

12-18-2005, 04:38 PM	#53
Diego Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 250	Bottom line is....his free speech is being run over. Sorry. It'll all come out later....rather than everyone get themselves in a foam about it. Just watch what happens. No need to fight. Have faith and support what you think is right.

12-18-2005, 05:00 PM	#57
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	I found it interesting that the orders to put Chris in jail came from the State Attorney, ie. Jeb Bush's chief Law Enforcement Officer. Think there is any relation there to GW's popularity problems.........No way I bet the whole problem for Chris started in the State Attorney's office and Polk County is just the local enforcers. Time will tell. I can imagine something like this going on: I can hear GW on the phone now calling his brother. ring, ring: Jeb: Hello, Gov'ner Mansion. Jeb speakin'. GW: Hello, Jeb. Jeb: Hi, George, Hoz'it in the White House? Is Dick still makin' us a ton of money skimmin' contracts in Iraq. I hope he remembers to put plenty in my account so I can run for President in 2008. We gotta keep a good thing goin'! GW: That's why I'm callin', Jeb. Thing are gettin' a little hot, and I'm not sure we can steal enough votes to get you elected if my popularity keeps going down. It's gettin' really bad, and I'm workin' really hard. This war isn't goin' the way Dick and Rummy said it would. Jeb: I'm doin' all that I can, George. I got Republican poll watchers in all lined up for the Black and Jewish neighborhoods. I also got a shitload of new Diabold votin' machines on order and we know how good they are. GW: Yeah, yeah, that is good, Jeb. But, I need a favor. There is this guy down in Polk County that has pictures of dead Iraqiis on his website, and he is just gettin' too popular. People are seein' all those dead people and gettin' upset. They are talkin' about it and it is hurtin' my numbers and your future presidential election possiblilites. He's got nekkid people on the website, too! I think I'm gonna cry....(sniffle). Jeb: Dont cry, George. I know! I'll have my State Attorney General give a call over there and see what we can do. If I remember, that Sheriff don't like nekkid people and we got a mean ass judge. He can't see so good, but, he sees well enough to know 'nekkid' when he see 'nekkid'. I'll get on it like a duck on a junebug, George. GW: Thank you, Jeb. Mom likes it when we work together. I'll see you at Christmas at the ranch and we can chop some wood. Bye Jeb: Bye, George.

12-18-2005, 06:04 PM	#65
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	European Lee, The Polk County court system is rigged, and Chris' legal problems are about First Amendment Rights, Prior Restraint, and due process. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it; but, I feel your view is rather myopic.

12-18-2005, 06:27 PM	#80
chadglni Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: PEI, Canada Posts: 6,924	And the fucking kicker "Although Wilson no longer lives in Polk County, the State Attorney's Office thinks that running that Web site is illegal and therefore Wilson is violating his bail conditions, according to Chip Thulberry, the state attorney's spokesman in Polk County." If you can't see a fucking problem with this something is seriously wrong with you.

12-18-2005, 06:36 PM	#81
chadglni Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: PEI, Canada Posts: 6,924	Bump for the idiots who said he violated a specific clause in his bail agreement.

12-18-2005, 06:50 PM	#86
Diego Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 250	Throw down for your brother, Chris. I understand why many of you are on the fence...nobody is asking you to jump into the fray and get a bloody nose. But fuck, can't you throw down a buck or two to help him out? What about the outcome of this? What if he wins a judment that benefits us all? READ the news reports....SEE the injustice...IMAGINE if Polk County is slapped down. Victory for us all! Imagine......

12-18-2005, 06:57 PM	#88
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	Rule #6 - You are never safe in a liberal community cause the government will download your site in Polk County and prosecute you if Jeb calls down from the State House. Rule #7 - The judge will not have to follow due process and will put you in jail pending trial if Jeb calls down from the State House. Rule #8 - Putting your sorry ass in jail is doing "God's Work" Rule #9 - Many of your fellow webmasters will bash you for being the "Chosen One" Rule #10 - The prosecutors will make it a terrible burden on you by making you post a seperate bond for each photo on your website.

12-18-2005, 07:41 PM	#90
Diego Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 250	Chris is sitting in jail tonight...wondering if anyone cares. Just a word or two to get back to him would help. C'mon people.

12-18-2005, 07:46 PM	#91
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	1,000 views on this thread....... Support Free Speech in America and fight tyranny. Free Chris Website

12-18-2005, 08:11 PM	#95
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	Happy Holidays!! I'll see all you nice folks in Vegas. Good Night and Sweet Dreams.

12-18-2005, 08:20 PM	#97
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	The porn wasn't in their town.......Chris was.

12-18-2005, 08:27 PM	#99
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Where my wife is from I can get alot more house for my money girls very very cheap that are hot but they dont like porn there, no adult mags for sale anywhere ,no adult books stores. So this isnt a place where I would put my business because I wouldnt want to be a target. I like to be quiet , make my money have a nice life, because of this I have a separate office, a business license, a lawyer that I get in the car and drive to tampa to go see at least once a year. He is conservative about things and I follow his judgement so Im conservative about my business. I wish Chris all the best and I truly hope he sticks it far up their ass but it frustrates me how many there are out there like him making it easy to be cherry picked.