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Old 12-17-2005, 04:24 AM   #1
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Search Engine Cloaking

There's a few threads in the sell+buy about cloaking. The most popular software package is shadowMaker. Fantomaster's system is on sale right now for $2,280. Quite a few people have asked me about this software. So I have developed a competing script that has the same featureset.

It comes with daily (automatic) updates for the spider database. The IPs used by Googlebot, Slurp, msnbot, et al change often and must remain 100% up-to-date. If your cloaking package does not remain up-to-date, and the software presents the wrong version of one of your pages (in error) to the spider, it could result in your domain being banned from that SE.

Anyone who is seriously interested, let me know and I'll arrange for a demo. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. See sig for contact.
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Old 12-17-2005, 06:54 AM   #2
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There's a few threads in the sell+buy about cloaking. The most popular software package is shadowMaker. Fantomaster's system is on sale right now for $2,280. Quite a few people have asked me about this software. So I have developed a competing script that has the same featureset.

It comes with daily (automatic) updates for the spider database. The IPs used by Googlebot, Slurp, msnbot, et al change often and must remain 100% up-to-date. If your cloaking package does not remain up-to-date, and the software presents the wrong version of one of your pages (in error) to the spider, it could result in your domain being banned from that SE.

Anyone who is seriously interested, let me know and I'll arrange for a demo. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. See sig for contact.

Shadowmaker come with a auto daily update of SE ip lists btw
Will not work if you cant set a crontab ;)
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:01 PM   #3
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Amazing what people charge for a cloaker. You can get the IP lists for free and if you know the basics of any kind of programming, you can write a cloaker in about 2 hours.
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:45 PM   #4
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Why do people charge so much for SEO related shit... damnit.
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:52 PM   #5
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i dont even understand why anyone would use a cloaker..

heres the simplest cloaker around free of charge.

<img src=c:\doesnotexist.gif onerror=window.open('http://sendtraffichere.com','_top')>

just make any page with anything you want on it , then add that line to the page..

anyone manually going to the page will go tot the forward page , all search engines will see the first page..
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:56 PM   #6
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i dont even understand why anyone would use a cloaker..

heres the simplest cloaker around free of charge.

<img src=c:\doesnotexist.gif onerror=window.open('http://sendtraffichere.com','_top')>

just make any page with anything you want on it , then add that line to the page..

anyone manually going to the page will go tot the forward page , all search engines will see the first page..
Charge $2000 for that line of code and you're ahead of those other cloakers
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:07 PM   #7
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I love that line of code.
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:08 PM   #8
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nice! I have been looking for this line of code for a week! lol
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:27 PM   #9
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Clocking is a very dangerous practice that causes lots of people more harm than good for many reasons. If for some crazy reason you really feel that you need to use clocking methods I would highly suggest using Fantomaster because Ralph Tegtmeir the owner of www.fantomaster.com is a leading expert in the field of clocking.
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Old 12-17-2005, 02:19 PM   #10
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FreeAgent you are indeed right.. cloaking is considered part of the black hat SEO so SEs will will punish you if they find this thing... and also I don't encourage using softwares for SEO... in the SEO world the hand of man is the best
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Old 12-17-2005, 02:54 PM   #11
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Amazing what people charge for a cloaker. You can get the IP lists for free and if you know the basics of any kind of programming, you can write a cloaker in about 2 hours.
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2 hours? Try 20 minutes
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Old 12-17-2005, 03:07 PM   #12
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Clocking is a very dangerous practice that causes lots of people more harm than good for many reasons. If for some crazy reason you really feel that you need to use clocking methods I would highly suggest using Fantomaster because Ralph Tegtmeir the owner of www.fantomaster.com is a leading expert in the field of clocking.
Clocking or cloaking? I'd like some clarification before I purchase ...
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Old 12-17-2005, 05:31 PM   #13
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Amazing what people charge for a cloaker. You can get the IP lists for free and if you know the basics of any kind of programming, you can write a cloaker in about 2 hours.
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That's fairly accurate. Notice mine isn't $2200.
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Old 12-17-2005, 05:32 PM   #14
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I'd also like to add that a number of the replies to this thread don't really understand what this form of cloaking is for. And to the person who said use javascript, don't do that unless you want to be banned. The method that shadowmaster (and my script) use is undetectable, unless manually reviewed by someone at the SE.
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Old 12-17-2005, 05:52 PM   #15
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ralph is a great guy, and thanks for the code smokey
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Old 12-18-2005, 11:36 AM   #16
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Kevsh - it's cloaking not clocking
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Old 12-18-2005, 11:44 AM   #17
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The method that shadowmaster (and my script) use is undetectable, unless manually reviewed by someone at the SE.
The method i pointed out above cant be detected by se's either , well it can but they dont, its been on pages for over 2 years ad google hasnt found it out yet..

I dont even think google does much "auto-banning" for anything. Its almost all manual.

Why dont you explain what your software does that the one line of code i posted doesn't ?
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:11 PM   #18
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I haven't cloaked in years, but I thought that se don't care about cloaking as long as the cloaked page is only an optimized version of the surfer page.

If you're optimizing for "golf" and you are selling porn, they will fuck you.
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Clocking or cloaking? I'd like some clarification before I purchase ...
Sorry, I r tarted...
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:06 AM   #20
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I wouldnt use that if you asked me.
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I wouldnt use that if you asked me.
Cloaking is great to use on feeder sites. You just need to make sure that your feeder site is totally separate from your core site. This way if your feeder sites gets banned it will not hurt your core site. You still need to be super careful because if there is any correlation between your site and the feeder site you will get totally fucked.
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