googles up to some nasty shit right now.

**KrisW** · 12-16-2005, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Hardlinks

I wont go into to much detail but look around, google is doing some major algorythym tests right now.

If what i just saw comes into play, shits gonna get interesting for those of us who use that engine for our traffic.

Is it the "screw-recip-backlinks" update you are talking about?

**~Ray** · 12-16-2005, 03:57 PM

my pr jumped up and down yesterday, but seems to have settled back....... for now.

**Hardlinks** · 12-16-2005, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by KrisW

Is it the "screw-recip-backlinks" update you are talking about?

I said right now, not months ago.

**Hardlinks** · 12-16-2005, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by AdvertisingSex

my pr jumped up and down yesterday, but seems to have settled back....... for now.

PR didnt update or change yesterday, some of the datacenters were showing results from the last update though.

**pornguy** · 12-16-2005, 03:59 PM

They have been doing a lot of new stuff lately.

**beemk** · 12-16-2005, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by AdvertisingSex

my pr jumped up and down yesterday, but seems to have settled back....... for now.

pagerank constantly changes. the only change you could have seen is whats shown on the toolbar. you should be watching your positions in the serps since pagerank doesnt really mean anything without good listings.

**fris** · 12-16-2005, 04:00 PM

would this have anything to do with them adding music searching?

**devilspost** · 12-16-2005, 04:02 PM

got any ip numbers to the datacenters to share?

**fris** · 12-16-2005, 04:04 PM

are all of googles ip addresses worth anything to anyone?

**baddog** · 12-16-2005, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Hardlinks

I said right now, not months ago.

**devilspost** · 12-16-2005, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by fris

are all of googles ip addresses worth anything to anyone?

I dont know about that but i would like to check out the ones that are showing movement. here is what i use now http://www.mcdar.net/dance/index.php

**Hardlinks** · 12-16-2005, 04:42 PM

This is fucked, am i the only one seeing this?

Or just the only one willing to talk about it?..lol

**directfiesta** · 12-16-2005, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by beemk

pagerank constantly changes. the only change you could have seen is whats shown on the toolbar. you should be watching your positions in the serps since pagerank doesnt really mean anything without good listings.

Agreed.

I have not so good pr on one shopping site, but am # 2 with the 2 keywords people use to search this product...

( 1 - 10 of about 2,670,000 )

Another site I have great PR, but am on the 15th page !!!!

Go figure.

**kenny** · 12-16-2005, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by devilspost

I dont know about that but i would like to check out the ones that are showing movement. here is what i use now http://www.mcdar.net/dance/index.php

Here is another tool from that website I use

http://www.mcdar.net/Q-Check/datatool.asp

I don't see anything myself

**studiocritic** · 12-16-2005, 04:51 PM

hardlinks hit me up on icq and show me what you're seeing

**Libertine** · 12-16-2005, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by Hardlinks

This is fucked, am i the only one seeing this?

Or just the only one willing to talk about it?..lol

Stop teasing. Either tell us, or don't.

**ModelPerfect** · 12-16-2005, 04:59 PM

listening intently...

**Hardlinks** · 12-16-2005, 05:08 PM

Heres what i saw.

The people that this effects will know exactly what it means.

**tony286** · 12-16-2005, 05:11 PM

it shows milfhunter is popular i dont understand lol

**Adultnet** · 12-16-2005, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by pornguy

They have been doing a lot of new stuff lately.

yes indeed there were allot of changes ..

**Nicky** · 12-16-2005, 05:14 PM

google? I took a major hit from Yahoo the other day and its sucking big time

**devilspost** · 12-16-2005, 05:16 PM

thanks for the post

**SmokeyTheBear** · 12-16-2005, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by tony404

it shows milfhunter is popular i dont understand lol

i think he is referring to the lack of ref codes

**Hardlinks** · 12-16-2005, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by tony404

it shows milfhunter is popular i dont understand lol

Actually it shows one of the webs most promoted affiliate sites.

But there isnt an affiliate link to be found.

**Hardlinks** · 12-16-2005, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

i think he is referring to the lack of ref codes

Bingo. Its shown me those serps for a few dif times today.

Could be an interesting few days to see what happens.

**SmokeyTheBear** · 12-16-2005, 05:21 PM

i thought an even more interesting change is in yahoo listings..

They have started selling peoples links out to the highest bidder..

do a search for "raven riley" on yahoo for example

the link is to the actual site with no ref code , but the actual link takes you thru a 3rd party then to the site with a ref code ( not the default ref code )

Its like google adwords or contextual ads except for the fact it actually REPLACES the serp with a paid ad.

So whoever had that serp before basically got it replaced.. and the previous serp was the actual website..

in conclusion ravenriley now pays a cut for the same listing as it had before for no cut..

**SmokeyTheBear** · 12-16-2005, 05:24 PM

im not seeing those results here though..

**Hardlinks** · 12-16-2005, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

im not seeing those results here though..

Im not either, but they are coming and going.

When i check the datacenters i see nothing. Thats kind of what has me worried..lol

**SmokeyTheBear** · 12-16-2005, 05:26 PM

hmm my example isnt working right now on yahoo , it sback to normal ill try to find another example.

**SmokeyTheBear** · 12-16-2005, 05:30 PM

ok try this instead.. search for cumfiesta on yahoo and the first result is

Code:

Cum Fiesta Main Site 
They suck and fuck our cocks like nothing you have ever seen and then get drenched in cum! Don't take my word for it. See for yourself. $4.95 3-day trial.
Category: Adult Galleries > Cum Shots and Facials
www.cumfiesta.com - More from this site - Save - Block

but the link points to

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=AikghBCXHn834AT6jCpUnNpXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE2OHZ wcHQ0BGNvbG8DZQRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZANGN jY2Xzg1/SIG=19p4u6rvq/EXP=1134872818/**http%3a//rdre1.yahoo.com/click%3fu=http%3a//www.wildlinecorp.com/app/kk.php%253Fs%253D94903,sk%253D522$b%253D721%26y=02 A801AA1163A882%26i=482%26c=17490%26q=02%255ESSHPM% 255BL7%257Cjryvzlk%7e6%26e=utf-8%26r=0%26d=wow%7eF666-en-us%26n=LE6KG7I7CMHK7K9C%26s=29%26t=%26m=43A37773%2 6x=0160818B44AA331F

notice wildlinecorp.com is the actual target..

Now this isnt just a paid spot like normal because there are 2 paid spots above it ( in blue ) this is an actual listing that has been replaced.. before it was either straight to cumfiesta with no ref code or to cumfiesta with the best seo's ref code.. now its sold to the highest bidder

**seeric** · 12-16-2005, 05:32 PM

ruh roh raggy

**Translation** · 12-16-2005, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Hardlinks

This is fucked, am i the only one seeing this?

Or just the only one willing to talk about it?..lol

no, everyone just realized you have no clue what the fuck you are talking about.

**SmokeyTheBear** · 12-16-2005, 05:35 PM

i noticed this when ravenriley had a thread about all the search engine traffic from yahoo dying out for the site, but the listing were still in the same spot..

So in the end ravenrileys is still getting the same amount of hits , but instead of coming from yahoo for free now its routed through wildline and ravenrileys pays a cut to the referrer who paid a cut to wildline to be listed in the www.ravenriley.com slot

no bash on wildline they seem to just have the monopoly on this

**European Lee** · 12-16-2005, 05:36 PM

Its only happening on certain sites.

There are still a heap of CCBill affiliate link codes showing in the results.

But yeah, noticed that a day or two back also.

Regards,

Lee

**BlackCrayon** · 12-16-2005, 05:44 PM

if the spam sites lose their ranks, i won't be sad. seo spam is what causes google to raise the bar time and time again of what a page needs to get a good ranking.

**devilspost** · 12-16-2005, 05:48 PM

I guess yahoo never claimed to do no evil.

JD · 12-16-2005, 06:30 PM

no problems here. still rockin out with my cock out in google

**Marshal** · 12-16-2005, 07:28 PM

i hope my position on google would go up...

**V_RocKs** · 12-16-2005, 09:24 PM

Are you sure about the Ravin Riley?

This kinda looks like the sites owner paid to have someone else get it into #1.

**fris** · 12-16-2005, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by devilspost

I dont know about that but i would like to check out the ones that are showing movement. here is what i use now http://www.mcdar.net/dance/index.php

ahh, i was just curious, i have the whole zone file for the whole .com .net . org registry so say ns1.google.com it will list all their ips domains they host same with ns1.sun.com ns1.etc.com whatever nameserver it lists all ips and domains updates every night at midnight.

**Quickdraw** · 12-16-2005, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

Are you sure about the Ravin Riley?

This kinda looks like the sites owner paid to have someone else get it into #1.

He is right about Raven's site. They had top listings until an affiliate started paying a third party(wildline) to do a rendition of the Yahoo Site Match program. So now that third party is probably making .25 or better per click, and of course Yahoo is getting its share of that.
Yahoo's listings are sprinkled with all sorts of this payed stuff.

**BlingDaddy** · 12-16-2005, 09:42 PM

Fuck Google and their one way revolving cash door. People have been dependent on it too long... They won't let you promote your site but they'll take your cash on adwords.... Adbrite and AVN Ads doesn't do that

I uninstalled google toolbar a long time ago and couldn't care less if I'm a fucking PR 1 or 10....

**wedouglas** · 12-16-2005, 09:43 PM

wildline says they dont allow affiliates, only paysite owners. whats the deal with affiliate links then?

**2HousePlague** · 12-16-2005, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by devilspost

got any ip numbers to the datacenters to share?

216.239.53.99
216.239.39.99
216.239.37.104
216.239.37.147
216.239.57.98
216.239.57.99
216.239.59.99
216.239.37.99
66.102.11.99
66.102.9.99
66.102.7.99
216.239.39.104
216.239.59.104
216.239.53.104
66.102.7.104
66.102.9.104
66.102.11.104
216.239.57.104
216.239.37.105
216.239.57.105
216.239.59.105
66.102.7.105
66.102.7.147
64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104
64.233.161.105
64.233.161.147
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
64.233.171.99
64.233.171.104
64.233.171.105
64.233.171.147
66.249.87.99
66.249.87.104
72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104
72.14.207.106
216.239.59.103

2hp

**wedouglas** · 12-16-2005, 09:48 PM

also, where do you go to buy these spots? I didnt see anything in overture about this.

**SmokeyTheBear** · 12-16-2005, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by wedouglas

also, where do you go to buy these spots? I didnt see anything in overture about this.

who knows , all i know is it looks like wildline has most of the major spots for most big sponsors i.e. tcg nastydollars bangbros etc

so if they have a virtual monopoly , then theres obviously room for competition.

**RichCashMike** · 12-16-2005, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by wedouglas

also, where do you go to buy these spots? I didnt see anything in overture about this.

Research XML trusted feeds

**Kevsh** · 12-16-2005, 10:05 PM

Wildline isn't the only one for Yahoo, also http://www.booyahnetworks.com/

But in any event, not mentioning that some placements are paid in the actual SERPs is a big risk for Yahoo - credibility will take a major hit if/when they decide to sell top spots in other markets

**Quickdraw** · 12-16-2005, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by Kevsh

Wildline isn't the only one for Yahoo, also http://www.booyahnetworks.com/

But in any event, not mentioning that some placements are paid in the actual SERPs is a big risk for Yahoo - credibility will take a major hit if/when they decide to sell top spots in other markets

I counted 2 payed listings in top 10 for 'toys'

googles up to some nasty shit right now.

googles up to some nasty shit right now.

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